warman can make somthing from nothing

More cut and paste.... cute. I love your originality....

So... I can see by your insistance for math you don't understand and
concepts you can't grasp that ignition coils can't work because they are
situated in a DC circuit. Yet, in spite of your insistance, ignition coils
do appear to work (either that or we all drive our imaginations to work
every day).

If you indeed have any knowledge of automotive electronics, you will abstain
from your drivel. Parroting "do the math... do the math..." when all you can
do is cut and paste rather than think .... when the most intelligent thing
you can utter is a sophomoric "lmfao" (laughing my fat ass off???)... you
still have no grasp of the dynamics in a circuit.

I see you have included a <plonk> and I sincerely hope that you have added
me to your kill file. Life would be so much easier if you simply realized
that searching the internet for instances that have little to do with the
automobile.

You have been proven wrong time and again... you get an "A" for
tenacity..... unfortunately, the "A" you get for stupidity cancels out.

I see the wheatstone bridge but I don't see the hurc bridge... I understand
kirchoffs principal but I don't see hurcs principal.... I know ohms law but
I have yet to see hurcs law.... If you manage to develop he ability to think
for yourself, you will see my example works (if it didn't, voltage
multipliers wouldn't work) but I'm sure you have a real good explanation of
how they get 115 volts to diesel injectors without reactance (oops, did I
mean impedance...or did I mean something that hurc will change at whim....).
I probably meant something that happens whether hurc allows it or not.

To fix a car, we have no need of the sort of math you cut and paste... we
only need to understand the concept.

Polly wanna cracker???


<fordly863 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 04:18:34 GMT, "Jim Warman"
 > <mechanic DeleteThis @tenalpsulet.net> wrote:
 >
  > >We could call it an AC circuit "characteristic".. but not really a
  > >component. Lines of magnetic force moving across a conductor induce a
  > >current flow. This is part of our ignition coil and how many other
circuits
  > >in a DC system..... the key being that the magnetic lines of force are
  > >moving...
  > >
  > >Let's take a look at a simple relay coil..... When we "make" the
circuit,
  > >current begins to flow through the windings.... as soon as the current
  > >starts to flow, magnetic lines of force start to move across the coil of
  > >wire. This induces current flow into the coil in the opposite direction
as
  > >the applied force. Through a visious circle type scenario.... the coil is
  > >relatively slow to build to saturation since the reactance... the more
  > >current that flows, the more the magnetic field grows, the more it
induces
  > >reactance..... in electronic terms (measured in nanoseconds in some cases
  > >and milliseconds in others), it stretches the event out incredibly.
  > >Inductive reactance.... impedance without resistance - hardly something
  > >exclusive to AC circuits.
  > >
  > >
 > hey warman
 > let me SIMPLIFY THIS
 >
 > xi=2<pi>FI
 > xc=1/2<pi>fc
 >
 > hmmmmm
 > 2 <pi> 0 =0
 > 1/2 <pi>0 =0
 >
 > hey u have a 0
 > the formula is invalid as no component of equation can = 0
 >
 > yup i would say impedence is exclusive
 >
 > how do ya get someting from nothing
 > be sure to show your math
 >
 >
 > SCHOOLS OUT
 > lmfao
 > plonk
 >
 >
 > hurc ast
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:35:55 GMT, "Jim Warman"
<mechanic.DeleteThis@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:

 >More cut and paste.... cute. I love your originality....
 >
 >So... I can see by your insistance for math you don't understand and
 >concepts you can't grasp that ignition coils can't work because they are
 >situated in a DC circuit. Yet, in spite of your insistance, ignition coils
 >do appear to work (either that or we all drive our imaginations to work
 >every day).
 >
lmfao
i am waiting for you to show me the math
lmfao

 >If you indeed have any knowledge of automotive electronics, you will abstain
 >from your drivel. Parroting "do the math... do the math..." when all you can
 >do is cut and paste rather than think .... when the most intelligent thing
 >you can utter is a sophomoric "lmfao" (laughing my fat ass off???)... you
 >still have no grasp of the dynamics in a circuit.
 >
lmfao
prove it
do the math




 >I see you have included a <plonk> and I sincerely hope that you have added
 >me to your kill file. Life would be so much easier if you simply realized
 >that searching the internet for instances that have little to do with the
 >automobile.
 >


lmfao
so you say the laws ao physics do not applie to cars??
lmfao
 >You have been proven wrong time and again... you get an "A" for
 >tenacity..... unfortunately, the "A" you get for stupidity cancels out.
 >
 >I see the wheatstone bridge but I don't see the hurc bridge... I understand
 >kirchoffs principal but I don't see hurcs principal.... I know ohms law but
 >I have yet to see hurcs law.... If you manage to develop he ability to think
 >for yourself, you will see my example works (if it didn't, voltage
 >multipliers wouldn't work) but I'm sure you have a real good explanation of
 >how they get 115 volts to diesel injectors without reactance (oops, did I
 >mean impedance...or did I mean something that hurc will change at whim....).
 >I probably meant something that happens whether hurc allows it or not.
 >


lmfao
thats 115 volts
DC
lmfao

 >To fix a car, we have no need of the sort of math you cut and paste... we
 >only need to understand the concept.
 >

so far you dont understand the concept


 >Polly wanna cracker???
 >
 >
you eat crackers ?


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i see you forgot to write something
hurc ast
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 05:11:15 GMT, fordly863.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:

 >On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 04:18:34 GMT, "Jim Warman"
 ><mechanic.DeleteThis@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:
 >
  >>We could call it an AC circuit "characteristic".. but not really a
  >>component. Lines of magnetic force moving across a conductor induce a
  >>current flow. This is part of our ignition coil and how many other circuits
  >>in a DC system..... the key being that the magnetic lines of force are
  >>moving...
  >>
  >>Let's take a look at a simple relay coil..... When we "make" the circuit,
  >>current begins to flow through the windings.... as soon as the current
  >>starts to flow, magnetic lines of force start to move across the coil of
  >>wire. This induces current flow into the coil in the opposite direction as
  >>the applied force. Through a visious circle type scenario.... the coil is
  >>relatively slow to build to saturation since the reactance... the more
  >>current that flows, the more the magnetic field grows, the more it induces
  >>reactance..... in electronic terms (measured in nanoseconds in some cases
  >>and milliseconds in others), it stretches the event out incredibly.
  >>Inductive reactance.... impedance without resistance - hardly something
  >>exclusive to AC circuits.
  >>
  >>
 >hey warman
 >let me SIMPLIFY THIS
 >
 >xi=2<pi>FI
 >xc=1/2<pi>fc
 >
 >hmmmmm
 >2 <pi> 0 =0
 >1/2 <pi>0 =0
 >
 >hey u have a 0
 >the formula is invalid as no component of equation can = 0
 >
 >yup i would say impedence is exclusive
 >
 >how do ya get someting from nothing
 >be sure to show your math
 >
 >
 >SCHOOLS OUT
 >lmfao
 >plonk
 >
 >
 >hurc ast
 >
Neither of your hard to read formulae is the one for impedence.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:39:41 GMT, fordly863.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:

 >On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:35:55 GMT, "Jim Warman"
 ><mechanic.DeleteThis@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:
 >
  >>More cut and paste.... cute. I love your originality....
  >>
  >>So... I can see by your insistance for math you don't understand and
  >>concepts you can't grasp that ignition coils can't work because they are
  >>situated in a DC circuit. Yet, in spite of your insistance, ignition coils
  >>do appear to work (either that or we all drive our imaginations to work
  >>every day).
  >>
 >lmfao
 >i am waiting for you to show me the math
 >lmfao
Okay, you asked for it, and Warman can stand the education.
Turn your reader to "fixed pitch font", simply because that's what I'm going
to use:
______
Impedence (Z) = \/ R²+X²

There ya go, if your reactances are "zero", the impedence is equal to the
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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 23:20:49 GMT, nospam5934.RemoveThis@hellsouth.org (BillyBBad)
wrote:

 >On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 05:11:15 GMT, fordly863.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
 >
  >>On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 04:18:34 GMT, "Jim Warman"
  >><mechanic.RemoveThis@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:
  >>
   >>>We could call it an AC circuit "characteristic".. but not really a
   >>>component. Lines of magnetic force moving across a conductor induce a
   >>>current flow. This is part of our ignition coil and how many other circuits
   >>>in a DC system..... the key being that the magnetic lines of force are
   >>>moving...
   >>>
   >>>Let's take a look at a simple relay coil..... When we "make" the circuit,
   >>>current begins to flow through the windings.... as soon as the current
   >>>starts to flow, magnetic lines of force start to move across the coil of
   >>>wire. This induces current flow into the coil in the opposite direction as
   >>>the applied force. Through a visious circle type scenario.... the coil is
   >>>relatively slow to build to saturation since the reactance... the more
   >>>current that flows, the more the magnetic field grows, the more it induces
   >>>reactance..... in electronic terms (measured in nanoseconds in some cases
   >>>and milliseconds in others), it stretches the event out incredibly.
   >>>Inductive reactance.... impedance without resistance - hardly something
   >>>exclusive to AC circuits.
   >>>
   >>>
  >>hey warman
  >>let me SIMPLIFY THIS
  >>
  >>xi=2<pi>FI
  >>xc=1/2<pi>fc
  >>
  >>hmmmmm
  >>2 <pi> 0 =0
  >>1/2 <pi>0 =0
  >>
  >>hey u have a 0
  >>the formula is invalid as no component of equation can = 0
  >>
  >>yup i would say impedence is exclusive
  >>
  >>how do ya get someting from nothing
  >>be sure to show your math
  >>
  >>
  >>SCHOOLS OUT
  >>lmfao
  >>plonk
  >>
  >>
  >>hurc ast
  >>
 >Neither of your hard to read formulae is the one for impedence.

lmfao
with the formula u gave
llooks like you should go back to school
and stay far away from electronics

lmfao

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On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:39:41 GMT, fordly863.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:

 >On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:35:55 GMT, "Jim Warman"
 ><mechanic.TakeThisOut@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:
 >
  >>More cut and paste.... cute. I love your originality....
  >>
  >>So... I can see by your insistance for math you don't understand and
  >>concepts you can't grasp that ignition coils can't work because they are
  >>situated in a DC circuit. Yet, in spite of your insistance, ignition coils
  >>do appear to work (either that or we all drive our imaginations to work
  >>every day).
  >>
 >lmfao
 >i am waiting for you to show me the math
 >lmfao

Hurc - you ARE an ass.
 >
  >>If you indeed have any knowledge of automotive electronics, you will abstain
  >>from your drivel. Parroting "do the math... do the math..." when all you can
  >>do is cut and paste rather than think .... when the most intelligent thing
  >>you can utter is a sophomoric "lmfao" (laughing my fat ass off???)... you
  >>still have no grasp of the dynamics in a circuit.
  >>
 >lmfao
 >prove it
 >do the math
 >
 >
 >
 >
  >>I see you have included a <plonk> and I sincerely hope that you have added
  >>me to your kill file. Life would be so much easier if you simply realized
  >>that searching the internet for instances that have little to do with the
  >>automobile.
  >>
 >
 >
 >lmfao
 >so you say the laws ao physics do not applie to cars??
 >lmfao
  >>You have been proven wrong time and again... you get an "A" for
  >>tenacity..... unfortunately, the "A" you get for stupidity cancels out.
  >>
  >>I see the wheatstone bridge but I don't see the hurc bridge... I understand
  >>kirchoffs principal but I don't see hurcs principal.... I know ohms law but
  >>I have yet to see hurcs law.... If you manage to develop he ability to think
  >>for yourself, you will see my example works (if it didn't, voltage
  >>multipliers wouldn't work) but I'm sure you have a real good explanation of
  >>how they get 115 volts to diesel injectors without reactance (oops, did I
  >>mean impedance...or did I mean something that hurc will change at whim....).
  >>I probably meant something that happens whether hurc allows it or not.
  >>
 >
 >
 >lmfao
 >thats 115 volts
 >DC
 >lmfao
 >
  >>To fix a car, we have no need of the sort of math you cut and paste... we
  >>only need to understand the concept.
  >>
 >
 >so far you dont understand the concept
 >
 >
  >>Polly wanna cracker???
  >>
  >>
 >you eat crackers ?
 >
 >
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<nospam.clare.nce.TakeThisOut@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message
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 > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:39:41 GMT, fordly863.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
 >
  > >On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:35:55 GMT, "Jim Warman"
  > ><mechanic.TakeThisOut@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:
  > >
   > >>More cut and paste.... cute. I love your originality....
   > >>
[snipped]

  > >hurc ast

The constant bickering is ruining an otherwise fine newsgroup. I subscribed
to this newsgroup because af a "check engine light" on my 99 Windstar and
received some great help. Now it seems that all I see is this constant
bickering and name calling. Please, stop the petty fighting, and let this
newsgroup be what it was...not what it has become.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 05:40:06 -0500, "Newby" <nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote:

 >
 ><nospam.clare.nce DeleteThis @sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message
 >news:5bai21tb82jpathdnrgupvhfs1gqiars57@4ax.com...
  >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:39:41 GMT, fordly863 DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
  >>
   >> >On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:35:55 GMT, "Jim Warman"
   >> ><mechanic DeleteThis @tenalpsulet.net> wrote:
   >> >
   >> >>More cut and paste.... cute. I love your originality....
   >> >>
 >[snipped]
 >
   >> >hurc ast
 >
 >The constant bickering is ruining an otherwise fine newsgroup. I subscribed
 >to this newsgroup because af a "check engine light" on my 99 Windstar and
 >received some great help. Now it seems that all I see is this constant
 >bickering and name calling. Please, stop the petty fighting, and let this
 >newsgroup be what it was...not what it has become.
 >

what has it become
??????????????
warmans NEEDS education


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<fordly863 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 05:40:06 -0500, "Newby" <nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote:
 >
  > >
  > ><nospam.clare.nce DeleteThis @sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message
  > >news:5bai21tb82jpathdnrgupvhfs1gqiars57@4ax.com...
   > >> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:39:41 GMT, fordly863 DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
   > >>
   > >> >On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:35:55 GMT, "Jim Warman"
   > >> ><mechanic DeleteThis @tenalpsulet.net> wrote:
   > >> >
   > >> >>More cut and paste.... cute. I love your originality....
   > >> >>
  > >[snipped]
  > >
   > >> >hurc ast
  > >
  > >The constant bickering is ruining an otherwise fine newsgroup. I
subscribed
  > >to this newsgroup because af a "check engine light" on my 99 Windstar and
  > >received some great help. Now it seems that all I see is this constant
  > >bickering and name calling. Please, stop the petty fighting, and let
this
  > >newsgroup be what it was...not what it has become.
  > >
 >
 > what has it become
[snipped]

It has become a personal battleground and it detracts from the newsgroup to
have the constant back and forth between the two of you. I would hope that
Warman would stop responding to your comments. If he's wrong others will
know it soon enough without you taking on the personal responsibility of
challenging his every statement. Of course, if you are wrong, others will
recognize that too.

He who tears down everyone around him only serves to belittle himself in
the eyes of others.

Regards,
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