transmission == toast ?

you are right tegger, quite vague.

2001 honda civic ex, sedan. auto trans. 95,544 miles.

the engine seems fine, but from a stop sign i cant get moveing. the rpm
goes up, but the car wont move. really.

before the final moments today [final moments = condition the car is in
now], it was shifting from 2 to 3 and instead of droping rpm between shifts
the rpm went up.

I hope this helps, I am just disgusted right now, trying to come to terms
with all this. I am beyond denial I beleive.

Tom




"Tegger" <tegger.RemoveThis@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99DBDB4797EDCtegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Burk" <fishingrod45.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about
>> 20 oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid
>> change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the
>> transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive
>
>
>
> "Won't drive" is awfully vague.
>
> Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You
> can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage.
>
> From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such
> as
> precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would
> include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental
> conditions,
> exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing.
>
> Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation
> of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT
> PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY!
>
>
>> and the fluid
>> smells like toast.
>>
>
>
> I like toast, but not in a transmission.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
 >> Stay informed about: transmission == toast ? 

Tegger,

this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said that
the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt pumping, then i
find the information below which points to the main tranny oil pump blowing.

What should I do now?
Tom

<snip>
The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the case)
the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical internal part
which requires replacement of the entire transmission.

I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem and
give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center.

Bulletin #: 04036
Sequence #: 10010754
Date: 01/07/2005
Component Name: 103000 power train:automatic transmission
Make: Honda
Model: Civic
Year: 2002
Summary: Vehicle cannot move when drive is selected; malfunction indicator
lamp comes on or d indicator blinks with automatic transmission diagnostic
trouble code p0730. *tt supercedes 04-036, dated 07/13/2004. *tt

</snip>








"Tegger" <tegger RemoveThis @tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99DBDB4797EDCtegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Burk" <fishingrod45 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about
>> 20 oz of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid
>> change myself, no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the
>> transmission started acting up. Now, it wont drive
>
>
>
> "Won't drive" is awfully vague.
>
> Please help us help you by providing a great many necessary details. You
> can start by giving make, model, year, engine and mileage.
>
> From there you can supply specifics on the transmission's behavior, such
> as
> precisely under what conditions it "acts up". These conditions would
> include engine temperature, shift points, ambient environmental
> conditions,
> exactly when it started acting up, that sort of thing.
>
> Failure to provide these details will result in the involuntary invocation
> of the ghost of Curly, who will rise from the grave and intone, IT'S NOT
> PSYCHIC WEDNESDAY!
>
>
>> and the fluid
>> smells like toast.
>>
>
>
> I like toast, but not in a transmission.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
 >> Stay informed about: transmission == toast ? 

Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and
fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high.

Thank you in advance,
Tom

"Burk" <fishingrod45 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:472a796d$0$24279$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz
>of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself,
>no one else to blame. I drove for 2000 miles then the transmission started
>acting up. Now, it wont drive and the fluid smells like toast.
>
> Can anyone give me some advice on what needs replaced in this component?
> Is there any hope that the transmission can be revived?
>
> Thanks.
> Tom
>
 >> Stay informed about: transmission == toast ? 

"Burk" <fishingrod45.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:472a89b5$0$28838$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Tegger,
>
> this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said
> that the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt
> pumping, then i find the information below which points to the main
> tranny oil pump blowing.
>
> What should I do now?
> Tom
>
> <snip>
> The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the
> case) the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical
> internal part which requires replacement of the entire transmission.
>
> I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem
> and give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center.
>



Sorry for the late response. Been busy.

Go here:
http://arrc.epnet.com/autoasp/framerq.asp
Sign in with username lib and password access

Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from the menu at left. Navigate to your
car. The TSB is there.

The TSB shows that a worn 2nd clutch can cause this problem.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
 >> Stay informed about: transmission == toast ? 

for cheap, like 800 bucks. the problem i have with this is that the
transmission should not have failed like it has. i dont want to pay
for honda's misjudgment of parts supplier.

thanks, and the one i did find locally is a 2002, so, it should be
beyond this type of failure.




On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:05:10 GMT, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe>
wrote:

>you should be able to find a trannie at a wrecker for cheap.
>
>Burk wrote:
>>Sorry, I am a victim of TSB 04036. The main tranny pump stopped working and
>>fried my transmission; this is why the fluid level appears to be high.
>>
>>Thank you in advance,
>>Tom
>>
>>>I have done the unthinkable. My transmission was overfilled by about 20 oz
>>>of fluid. Good thing I used HG ATF! huh? I did the fluid change myself,
>>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>> Thanks.
>>> Tom
 >> Stay informed about: transmission == toast ? 

Excellent information tegger. that bulletin really hits the target.
i wish my D would have been blinking which would have sealed the
diagnosis.

here is what the honda dealer tells me. i have a p0730 gear ratio out
of adjustment, and p0740 clutch 'issues' or slippage i forget the
description. its not covered under an extended warranty. i have
taken excellent care of this vehicle, this is the strangest failure i
have encountered in my life with cars.



On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:55:47 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger.DeleteThis@tegger.c0m>
wrote:

>"Burk" <fishingrod45.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:472a89b5$0$28838$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Tegger,
>>
>> this is likely what happened. After talking with my mechanic, he said
>> that the fluid could have looked overfilled if the oil pump wasnt
>> pumping, then i find the information below which points to the main
>> tranny oil pump blowing.
>>
>> What should I do now?
>> Tom
>>
>> <snip>
>> The local dealership has said they are 99% sure (without opening the
>> case) the main tranny oil pump blew. Apparently this is a critical
>> internal part which requires replacement of the entire transmission.
>>
>> I have been looking for Honda TSB 04036, which may explain my problem
>> and give me some leverage on negotiations with the service center.
>>
>
>
>
>Sorry for the late response. Been busy.
>
>Go here:
>http://arrc.epnet.com/autoasp/framerq.asp
>Sign in with username lib and password access
>
>Choose Auto Repair Reference Center from the menu at left. Navigate to your
>car. The TSB is there.
>
>The TSB shows that a worn 2nd clutch can cause this problem.
 >> Stay informed about: transmission == toast ?