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Since: Mar 05, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:40 pm
Post subject: cant shift out of park
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Hey guys, quick question for you.
91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key
in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of park. I
have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be able to
get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing...
AER

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Jafir Elkurd

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Do the brake lights work? "Al" <username.DeleteThis@stny.rr.com> wrote in message news:ol4k21h32lei757crhjco8qmr1ve9ai4i2@4ax.com... > Hey guys, quick question for you. > 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key > in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of park. I > have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be able to > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... > AER<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <ol4k21h32lei757crhjco8qmr1ve9ai4i2 DeleteThis @4ax.com>, aer23 DeleteThis @nospam.cornell.edu wrote: > Hey guys, quick question for you. > 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key > in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of park. I > have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be able to > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... > AER Have you or anyone else work on the transmission in the past couple of months? If it was a mechanic, take it back and tell him the problem. It's possible that the problem is related to the transaxle control solenoid. You might have to replace it. If you have never before done any work on transmissions, I advise you to take it to your favorite mechanic. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On an integra you can override the lock on the shifter by putting a key in the little slot in front of the shifter -- it might be similar on your civic. A solenoid normally controls this lock and the key just manually pushes the lever. That solenoid might be broken or not driven. It can also be in need of adjustment. Remco >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

No tranny work in a year. and that was just a drain and flush. AER On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 11:14:45 -0800, jason DeleteThis @nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >In article <ol4k21h32lei757crhjco8qmr1ve9ai4i2 DeleteThis @4ax.com>, >aer23@nospam.cornell.edu wrote: > >> Hey guys, quick question for you. >> 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key >> in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of park. I >> have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be able to >> get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... >> AER > >Have you or anyone else work on the transmission in the past couple of months? >If it was a mechanic, take it back and tell him the problem. >It's possible that the problem is related to the transaxle control >solenoid. You might have to replace it. If you have never before done any >work on transmissions, I advise you to take it to your favorite mechanic.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Yes On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:33:25 -0600, "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir.RemoveThis@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote: >Do the brake lights work? > >"Al" <username.RemoveThis@stny.rr.com> wrote in message >news:ol4k21h32lei757crhjco8qmr1ve9ai4i2@4ax.com... >> Hey guys, quick question for you. >> 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put the key >> in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of park. I >> have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be able to >> get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... >> AER ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

So, instead of replacing the solenoid, I could jsut replace it with really no ill effects right? AER On 6 Mar 2005 19:16:57 -0800, "Remco" <whybcuz.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote: >On an integra you can override the lock on the shifter by putting a key >in the little slot in front of the shifter -- it might be similar on >your civic. > >A solenoid normally controls this lock and the key just manually pushes >the lever. That solenoid might be broken or not driven. It can also be >in need of adjustment. > >Remco<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I mean, I could just REMOVE it with no ill effects AER On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:04:59 GMT, Al <username DeleteThis @stny.rr.com> wrote: >So, instead of replacing the solenoid, I could jsut replace it with >really no ill effects right? >AER > >On 6 Mar 2005 19:16:57 -0800, "Remco" <whybcuz DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On an integra you can override the lock on the shifter by putting a key >>in the little slot in front of the shifter -- it might be similar on >>your civic. >> >>A solenoid normally controls this lock and the key just manually pushes >>the lever. That solenoid might be broken or not driven. It can also be >>in need of adjustment. >> >>Remco<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park- n my brakes lights dont work [Login to view extended thread Info.]

So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr out of shift...... AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related??? HELP! >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr > out of shift...... > > AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related??? I bet it is the switch going to your brake pedal - it controls the brake lights and a solenoid (= a mechanical electrically control switch) to your shifter. It makes sure that you have to put your foot on the brake before you shift, as a precaution. A wire might have gotten knocked loose or the switch may actually be bad - you might be able to see what is wrong by looking up from where the pedals are. Remco<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.]

so then if i took it to a brake place n had a Diagnotstic test done- they should be able to find the problem right like if it were a wiring problem???? >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Re: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> so then if i took it to a brake place n had a Diagnotstic test done- > they should be able to find the problem right like if it were a wiring > problem???? They may be able to find it, although usually they only do brakes. They may be able to fix it, but you'll be paying for their ignorance of electrical things and most likely overcharge you. It is not a reflection of their competance of doing brakes - The problem is really an electrical one (it could be the switch, it could be a wire, it could even be just a fuse). Do you know anyone that is handy with electrical things and knows how to troubleshoot problems? A person like that would be able to find it pretty quickly. Remco<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

my experience with these cars is the computer burns a circuit and the shift lock release quits working. its easy to find out and takes 10 minutes to find out ...1 10 mm socket and a philips head screwdriver required. under passenger floorboard <carpet> you will find 2 computers computer on right side is trans control computer. remove 4 10 mm nuts from false floorboard unplug computer turn plate over remove 3 10 mm bolts attaching computer to false floorboard remove 4 philips screws and open up box . look in bottom corner for burnt electronic components....ASE certified transmission tech...dont buy a new computer for your car repair yours ask me for info djmcreynolds1 DeleteThis @bellsouth.net "Stephanie7" <UseLinkToEmail DeleteThis @AutoForumz.com> wrote in message news:1_531058_74b412912759cc4cbd5547bfe2bc35a1@autoforumz.com... > "Jafir Elkurd" wrote: > > Do the brake lights work? > > > > "Al" <username DeleteThis @stny.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:ol4k21h32lei757crhjco8qmr1ve9ai4i2@4ax.com... > > > Hey guys, quick question for you. > > > 91 honda civic auto HB. Been a great car, but now when I put > > the key > > > in, start the car and press the brake, I cant shift out of > > park. I > > > have to use the shift lock release next to the shifter to be > > able to > > > get going. Any ideas? It was a very sudden thing... > > > AER > > So- ive had to put the key in the shift lock release to get the casr > out of shift...... > > AND NOW my brakes dont work- is that related??? > > HELP! > > -- > Posted using the <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.autoforumz.com" target="_blank">http://www.autoforumz.com</a> interface, at author's request > Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards <font color=purple> > Topic URL: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.autoforumz.com/Honda-shift-park-ftopict106130.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.autoforumz.com/Honda-shift-park-ftopict106130.html</font</a>> > Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=531058" target="_blank">http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=531058</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

djmcreynolds1.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net wrote: > > my experience with these cars is the computer burns a circuit and the shift > lock release quits working. its easy to find out and takes 10 minutes to > find out ...1 10 mm socket and a philips head screwdriver required. under > passenger floorboard <carpet> you will find 2 computers computer on right > side is trans control computer. remove 4 10 mm nuts from false floorboard > unplug computer turn plate over remove 3 10 mm bolts attaching computer to > false floorboard remove 4 philips screws and open up box . look in bottom > corner for burnt electronic components.... Interesting experience, seeing as neither the ECU not the TCU has any control over the shift lock solenoid. No brake lights and a shift lock solenoid that won't disengage is pretty easy to diagnose. > ASE certified transmission > tech...dont buy a new computer for your car repair yours ask me for info You do this for a living? I see your posts in a large number of automotive news groups,.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: cant shift out of park [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Randolph <trash RemoveThis @junkmail.com> wrote in news:4267E9E3.48F08017@junkmail.com: > > djmcreynolds1 RemoveThis @bellsouth.net wrote: >> >> ASE certified transmission >> tech...dont buy a new computer for your car repair yours ask me for >> info > > You do this for a living? I see your posts in a large number of > automotive news groups,. > Sounds like a conflict of interest. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: cant shift out of park

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