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Since: Mar 27, 2004 Posts: 16
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:20 am
Post subject: Did I ruin my engine ??? Archived from groups: alt>autos>4x4>chevy-trucks (more info?)
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'02 2500HD 4x4 with 6.0L gas engine.
Inadvertantly put in about 5 gallons of old, yellowed gas from another
vehicle that had been sitting idle for about a year. No doubt had water in
it too.
2 days later, the 2500HD wouldn't start in the morning and making very scary
($?) clanging noises. After many, many attempts, truck finally started.
Truck runs fine now (still sometimes hard to start though) but there is a
VERY
distinct pinging noise in the engine.
Friends tell me that's the sound of the lifters, and that even though the
sound is concerning to me, no harm is being done to the engine. When all the
bad gas runs it's course through the engine, everything should return to
normal.
When I first put the bad gas in the truck, it was about half full of clean
gas.
I then filled it up with additional clean gas with the intent of diluting
the bad gas. I also added a bottle of fuel injector cleaner, and a bottle of
"fuel preservative". At this writing, that tank was down to about 3 gallons
remaining and I just filled it up again with 23 gallons of Chevron Supreme.
Still making the pinging noise.
Can anybody here help me with explaining what might be going on with my
engine, and am I ruining it by continuing to drive it like this?
Thanks in advance for any help...
Mike
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Since: Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 132
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:56 am
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Since: Jun 07, 2004 Posts: 94
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:54 am
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"Mike McAuley" <mm58 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> '02 2500HD 4x4 with 6.0L gas engine.
>
> Inadvertantly put in about 5 gallons of old, yellowed gas from another
> vehicle that had been sitting idle for about a year. No doubt had water in
> it too.
>
> 2 days later, the 2500HD wouldn't start in the morning and making very
scary
> ($?) clanging noises. After many, many attempts, truck finally started.
>
> Truck runs fine now (still sometimes hard to start though) but there is a
> VERY
> distinct pinging noise in the engine.
>
> Friends tell me that's the sound of the lifters, and that even though the
> sound is concerning to me, no harm is being done to the engine. When all
the
> bad gas runs it's course through the engine, everything should return to
> normal.
>
> When I first put the bad gas in the truck, it was about half full of clean
> gas.
> I then filled it up with additional clean gas with the intent of diluting
> the bad gas. I also added a bottle of fuel injector cleaner, and a bottle
of
> "fuel preservative". At this writing, that tank was down to about 3
gallons
> remaining and I just filled it up again with 23 gallons of Chevron
Supreme.
>
> Still making the pinging noise.
>
> Can anybody here help me with explaining what might be going on with my
> engine, and am I ruining it by continuing to drive it like this?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help...
>
> Mike
> Tucson, AZ
>
>
It's more likely a noisy injector or two. They can sound a lot like noisy
lifters. Chevron Techron cleaner might help or you might have to have a pro
clean them. I'd change the filter, too.
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Since: Nov 04, 2004 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:21 pm
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"Bill" <B512RACING.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Is it still under warranty? If so,just play dumb and take it in.I`m
> sure it`s not lifter noise your hearing.Just a low octane ping.
>
As a Service manager for a manufacturing co. I can see stuff like this
coming a mile away. I've seen it all and expect it all.
Please don't do this.
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Since: Nov 09, 2004 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:21 pm
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"Hairy" <hairy411.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> "Mike McAuley" <mm58.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:2xYjd.21718$KJ6.3665@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> '02 2500HD 4x4 with 6.0L gas engine.
>>
>> Inadvertantly put in about 5 gallons of old, yellowed gas from
>> another vehicle that had been sitting idle for about a year. No doubt
>> had water in it too.
>>
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> It's more likely a noisy injector or two. They can sound a lot like
> noisy lifters. Chevron Techron cleaner might help or you might have to
> have a pro clean them. I'd change the filter, too.
> H
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There are additives to get water out of gasoline. One is called "Heat."
You can buy it almost anywhere car stuff is sold. I second the "change
the filter" advice. And, urge you not to do it again:)
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Since: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 75
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:21 pm
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Don you ignorant Slut!
Service whores, OOPS! I mean managers like you, make people want to buy
foreign!
Refinish King
"Don ßċiley" <donBEE421.TakeThisOut@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> "Bill" <B512RACING.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:16889-4190BE7D-407@storefull-3152.bay.webtv.net...
>> Is it still under warranty? If so,just play dumb and take it in.I`m
>> sure it`s not lifter noise your hearing.Just a low octane ping.
>>
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> As a Service manager for a manufacturing co. I can see stuff like this
> coming a mile away. I've seen it all and expect it all.
>
> Please don't do this.
>
> db
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Since: Jun 30, 2004 Posts: 322
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:21 pm
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"Big Al" <nospam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Hairy" <hairy411 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:2vc0gbF2huap5U1@uni-berlin.de:
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> > "Mike McAuley" <mm58 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:2xYjd.21718$KJ6.3665@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> '02 2500HD 4x4 with 6.0L gas engine.
> >>
> >> Inadvertantly put in about 5 gallons of old, yellowed gas from
> >> another vehicle that had been sitting idle for about a year. No doubt
> >> had water in it too.
> >>
> Snip
> >
> > It's more likely a noisy injector or two. They can sound a lot like
> > noisy lifters. Chevron Techron cleaner might help or you might have to
> > have a pro clean them. I'd change the filter, too.
> > H
> >
> >
> >
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> There are additives to get water out of gasoline. One is called "Heat."
> You can buy it almost anywhere car stuff is sold. I second the "change
> the filter" advice. And, urge you not to do it again:)
>
> Al Also in Tucson
I second the Heat product, I've used this a lot years ago when we used to
get a lot of water ridden gas in the early 80's. I believe it comes in a
yellow bottle and simply says HEAT on it.
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Since: Mar 27, 2004 Posts: 16
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:21 pm
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Well, I dumped two bottles of "HEET" into an almost full tank of gas.
I'm going to burn off about a quarter of a tank, then add a bottle of
Lucas fuel injector cleaner.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed ...
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Since: Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 132
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:43 pm
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Since: Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 132
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:46 pm
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Since: Mar 27, 2004 Posts: 16
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:40 pm
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That's the one I used. Red bottle, called "Iso-HEET"
Mike
"Bill" <B512RACING.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> There are 2 different bottles of heat.(or last I checked) Red and
> yellow.Yellow can burn out O2 sensors.Stick with the red bottle.
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Since: Mar 27, 2004 Posts: 16
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:40 pm
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Okay guys ... I have another question:
Assuming the clicking noise I hear *is* the lifters (and it probably is)
Why am I hearing it? I mean, I assume I'm hearing it because they're
not being lubricated they way they should (??) and if so, why would
that be a result of putting bad gas/water in the fuel?
What's the correlation?
Curious mechanical minds want to know...
Mike
"Mike McAuley" <mm58.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> That's the one I used. Red bottle, called "Iso-HEET"
>
> Mike
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> "Bill" <B512RACING.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:28147-41928C35-30@storefull-3152.bay.webtv.net...
> > There are 2 different bottles of heat.(or last I checked) Red and
> > yellow.Yellow can burn out O2 sensors.Stick with the red bottle.
> >
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Since: Jun 07, 2004 Posts: 94
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:40 pm
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"Mike McAuley" <mm58.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Okay guys ... I have another question:
> Assuming the clicking noise I hear *is* the lifters (and it probably is)
> Why am I hearing it? I mean, I assume I'm hearing it because they're
> not being lubricated they way they should (??) and if so, why would
> that be a result of putting bad gas/water in the fuel?
> What's the correlation?
>
There is no correlation. That's why I suggested checking the injectors,
which 'can' sound like lifters. The correlation there should be obvious.
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Since: Mar 27, 2004 Posts: 16
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:40 am
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I would check the injectors, but that involves taking a lot of stuff apart
to get to them, and right now, I can't afford the time to do that.
I did use a mechanics stethescope, and the sound is strongest from
lower down on the engine. Probably about a foot lower down from
where the injectors are. Around where the exhaust headers are (I think)
Mike
"Hairy" <hairy411 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike McAuley" <mm58 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > Okay guys ... I have another question:
> > Assuming the clicking noise I hear *is* the lifters (and it probably is)
> > Why am I hearing it? I mean, I assume I'm hearing it because they're
> > not being lubricated they way they should (??) and if so, why would
> > that be a result of putting bad gas/water in the fuel?
> > What's the correlation?
> >
>
> There is no correlation. That's why I suggested checking the injectors,
> which 'can' sound like lifters. The correlation there should be obvious.
> H
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