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I just don't know the answers to a lot of the questions in your reply. I can only guess that it was a posi-traction since this truck seems to have everything else on it, too. Leather, etc.
All the mech said was he found grindings in the oil. Three weeks later (he's had it that long) he said it should be ready in a few days and he'd call me. He said he'd just gotten the rear end in. He had to go to a dealer. I can only assume he meant a new car dealer's parts department. These are things I just don' thave answers to. Now I'm assuming the absolute worst. Particularly since a friend said those things are easy to find in junk yards. Another place I know very little about; junk yards; except that's where vehicles go when they aren't vehicling any more. No kidding. I am that stupid about how cars work. It makes perfect sense to me that if it's got tits or tires it ain't nothin' but trouble. I assume that was written just for me.
But thanks for your reply. If anything else crosses your mind re: this situation, please re-reply.
Larry
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"captainlarry" wrote in message "I just bought a 97 Chevy 3/4 6.5 diesel
(2500) A mechanic going over the thing for me has informed me the rear end
is shot. He found grindings in it and purchased a replacement from a dealer.
This is my first pickup truck and my first experience with anything like
this other than normal repair sort of stuff. The previous owner told me he
replaced the trans and the injection pump within the last 18 months. I had
the truck exactly two days when it made a loud thunking sound that made the
truck actually shudder when backing up or cornering. Any ideas please. Is
this gonna' be REAL expensive Thank you"

If it is non locking rear end a new chunk ( the rear end internals
reassembled) purchased from a dealer then the cost could be around 219.00
dollars to 384.00 dollars according to how much the mechanic marks it up.
GM direct shows the price for 219.00 plus shipping. I just changed the rear
end and transmission in my play toy. I purchased it from locally in
Louisiana at a GM parts supply place in Houma, LA. The part can be found at
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ also.

Sarge
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"captainlarry" <UseLinkToEmail.DeleteThis@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > I just don't know the answers to a lot of the questions in your
 > reply. I can only guess that it was a posi-traction since this truck
 > seems to have everything else on it, too. Leather, etc.
 > All the mech said was he found grindings in the oil. Three weeks later
 > (he's had it that long) he said it should be ready in a few days and
 > he'd call me. He said he'd just gotten the rear end in. He had to go
 > to a dealer. I can only assume he meant a new car dealer's parts
 > department. These are things I just don' thave answers to. Now I'm
 > assuming the absolute worst. Particularly since a friend said those
 > things are easy to find in junk yards. Another place I know very
 > little about; junk yards; except that's where vehicles go when they
 > aren't vehicling any more. No kidding. I am that stupid about how cars
 > work. It makes perfect sense to me that if it's got tits or tires it
 > ain't nothin' but trouble. I assume that was written just for me.
 > But thanks for your reply. If anything else crosses your mind re: this
 > situation, please re-reply.
 > Larry

Yeah, one thing comes to mind real fast. You want to see the old parts, and
you want to look under your rig and see if what's under it looks brand new,
and looks like what he says is the old one. This guy is vague as hell as to
what he is finding, and what he is doing. Never ever take the first price
on a major repair, always get a second opinion. when in doubt bite the
bullet and get the second opinion from the manufacturer, even if it cost a
bit. If it was the clutch pack that let loose, worse case scenario Eaton 33
spline set up $250 retail.for a clutch pack kit. Add about 3-4 hours
labor. Joe Blows Shade Tree garage is not going to do this kind of work,
they just replace assemblies. And three weeks, I sure hope you wrote the
mileage down when you dropped it off.
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"Whitelightning" <white.lightning2.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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 >
 > "captainlarry" <UseLinkToEmail.RemoveThis@AutoForumz.com> wrote in message
 > news:41f9422a$1_5@alt.athenanews.com...
  > >
  > > I just don't know the answers to a lot of the questions in your
  > > reply. I can only guess that it was a posi-traction since this truck
  > > seems to have everything else on it, too. Leather, etc.
  > > All the mech said was he found grindings in the oil. Three weeks later
  > > (he's had it that long) he said it should be ready in a few days and
  > > he'd call me. He said he'd just gotten the rear end in. He had to go
  > > to a dealer. I can only assume he meant a new car dealer's parts
  > > department. These are things I just don' thave answers to. Now I'm
  > > assuming the absolute worst. Particularly since a friend said those
  > > things are easy to find in junk yards. Another place I know very
  > > little about; junk yards; except that's where vehicles go when they
  > > aren't vehicling any more. No kidding. I am that stupid about how cars
  > > work. It makes perfect sense to me that if it's got tits or tires it
  > > ain't nothin' but trouble. I assume that was written just for me.
  > > But thanks for your reply. If anything else crosses your mind re: this
  > > situation, please re-reply.
  > > Larry
 >
 > Yeah, one thing comes to mind real fast. You want to see the old parts,
and
 > you want to look under your rig and see if what's under it looks brand
new,
 > and looks like what he says is the old one. This guy is vague as hell as
to
 > what he is finding, and what he is doing. Never ever take the first price
 > on a major repair, always get a second opinion. when in doubt bite the
 > bullet and get the second opinion from the manufacturer, even if it cost a
 > bit. If it was the clutch pack that let loose, worse case scenario Eaton
33
 > spline set up $250 retail.for a clutch pack kit. Add about 3-4 hours
 > labor. Joe Blows Shade Tree garage is not going to do this kind of work,
 > they just replace assemblies. And three weeks, I sure hope you wrote the
 > mileage down when you dropped it off.
 > Whitelightning
 >
You're saying it right, WL - I think his "mechanic" saw a guy that didn't
know a lot about cars and just might take some advantage of him. OTOH, he
might just be a nice guy that knows he doesn't have to explain alot to a guy
that wouldn't understand the explanation anyway. I hope its the latter -
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well I suppose I could have been a little more specific. The guy that's working on my rig is the same guy that's buying my old vehicle, a 94 Chevy Tahoe 2 dr. 4x4 that he's had his eye on for about a year. We made a gentleman' s agreement that he'd go over my "new" truck before he took possession of my "old" truck. So we exchanged vehicles until he's had the chance to fix all the stuff that was needed on the "new" one. He said it is in pretty good shape except fo this rear end thing. So. Yup, I'm a guy what know nuttin' about the mechanical end of things. I'm pretty much a drive 'til something goes wrong then take it and have it fixed guy. A sitting duck maybe but I know my limitations when it comes to fixing things like vehicles. If it's wood or something to do with the house, that's different. Like I said, tits or tires. But I really appreciate all the response and the prices you've mentioned aren't nearly as bad as I'd thought. I'm already panicking this into thousands of dollars for a $10K vehicle with 170K on it. Anyway. I'm still hoping for the best and we should be finding out within a few days. Again, thanks and if anyone has anything else they'd like to add, please feel free.
Larry
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Sarge wrote:

 >"captainlarry" wrote in message "I just bought a 97 Chevy 3/4 6.5 diesel
 >(2500) A mechanic going over the thing for me has informed me the rear end
 >is shot. He found grindings in it and purchased a replacement from a dealer.
 >This is my first pickup truck and my first experience with anything like
 >this other than normal repair sort of stuff. The previous owner told me he
 >replaced the trans and the injection pump within the last 18 months. I had
 >the truck exactly two days when it made a loud thunking sound that made the
 >truck actually shudder when backing up or cornering. Any ideas please. Is
 >this gonna' be REAL expensive Thank you"
 >
 >If it is non locking rear end a new chunk ( the rear end internals
 >reassembled) purchased from a dealer then the cost could be around 219.00
 >dollars to 384.00 dollars according to how much the mechanic marks it up.
 >GM direct shows the price for 219.00 plus shipping. I just changed the rear
 >end and transmission in my play toy. I purchased it from locally in
 >Louisiana at a GM parts supply place in Houma, LA. The part can be found at
 >http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ also.
 >
 >Sarge
 >
 >
 >
 >
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I've got a few more answers; more information. Rather than speculating I did what I should have done 3 days ago. I called the mechanic and ASKED him; 'how much is this costing me?'. So far, about $600. Parts for the pumpkin ( I thought this was a truck not a coach ) came from a dealer and bearings from somewhere else. The mech's explanation for all this is as follows: The dealer said this combination was the second one he'd sold that week. The mech's approach was that there was a design flaw that caused a whole big bunch of these things to go belly-up and if he were to buy one from the junk yard he might be doing this whole job over again in 3 months. He knows me well enough to know that I'm an awful jumpy, anxious guy when it comes to my vehicles not running right. I'm of the opinion that the mech is figuring to give me peace of mind; he'll do the job extra right, once and for all by putting new parts that DON'T have this design flaw in them. He said the whole rear end was just loaded with little metal parts and it appeared that the mechanism had been running dry for quite a while. Maybe poor maintainence, maybe poor design. No matter. It was shot. He's got the old parts and even took pictures of the old mechanism to show me. Should be ready this coming week ( AHEM! about time! but can't rush a good thing ) and all the other stuff that was wrong with it will be fixed, too!
Pittman arm, horn, four ways, trailer light plug, brake controller. fuel line sender something leaking, etc.
The only thing I'll have left to do is have the driver's side arm rest fixed. Unfortunately, he's not an upholstery man.
OK guys. Have at me. I just feel that a) I know my limitations, b) fixing things like this is not among those limitations, c) this guy seems trustworthy and talented and d) it weren't no good to me the way it was.
You are all allowed to have a shot at me for being a) gullible or b) a wimp. Last, I'm going to be towing my horses around with this vehicle. No I'm not rich because I have horses. Just the opposite. EquusKeepusBrokus! But maybe having this thing fixed for a little too much money will give me one less thing to worry about when I'm out on the freeway with the nags. How much is serenity worth?
But thanks to everyone who offered advice/insight/observations.
Update when I get it back and actually drive it
Larry
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captainlarry wrote:

 >"cewillis" wrote:
  > > Sarge wrote:
  > >
   > > >"captainlarry" wrote in message "I just bought a 97 Chevy 3/4
  > > 6.5 diesel
   > > >(2500) A mechanic going over the thing for me has informed me
  > > the rear end
   > > >is shot. He found grindings in it and purchased a replacement
  > > from a dealer.
   > > >This is my first pickup truck and my first experience with
  > > anything like
   > > >this other than normal repair sort of stuff. The previous
  > > owner told me he
   > > >replaced the trans and the injection pump within the last 18
  > > months. I had
   > > >the truck exactly two days when it made a loud thunking sound
  > > that made the
   > > >truck actually shudder when backing up or cornering. Any
  > > ideas please. Is
   > > >this gonna' be REAL expensive Thank you"
   > > >
   > > >If it is non locking rear end a new chunk ( the rear end
  > > internals
   > > >reassembled) purchased from a dealer then the cost could be
  > > around 219.00
   > > >dollars to 384.00 dollars according to how much the mechanic
  > > marks it up.
   > > >GM direct shows the price for 219.00 plus shipping. I just
  > > changed the rear
   > > >end and transmission in my play toy. I purchased it from
  > > locally in
   > > >Louisiana at a GM parts supply place in Houma, LA. The part
  > > can be found at
   > > >http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ also.
   > > >
   > > >Sarge
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > > What do you think the price would be for a new positrac
  > > carrier assembly?
 >
 > I’ve got a few more answers; more information. Rather than
 >speculating I did what I should have done 3 days ago. I called the
 >mechanic and ASKED him; ’how much is this costing me?’. So far, about
 >$600. Parts for the pumpkin ( I thought this was a truck not a coach )
 >came from a dealer and bearings from somewhere else. The mech’s
 >explanation for all this is as follows: The dealer said this
 >combination was the second one he’d sold that week. The mech’s
 >approach was that there was a design flaw that caused a whole big
 >bunch of these things to go belly-up and if he were to buy one from
 >the junk yard he might be doing this whole job over again in 3 months.
 >He knows me well enough to know that I’m an awful jumpy, anxious guy
 >when it comes to my vehicles not running right. I’m of the opinion
 >that the mech is figuring to give me peace of mind; he’ll do the job
 >extra right, once and for all by putting new parts that DON’T have
 >this design flaw in them. He said the whole rear end was just loaded
 >with little metal parts and it appeared that the mechanism had been
 >running dry for quite a while. Maybe poor maintainence, maybe poor
 >design. No matter. It was shot. He’s got the old parts and even took
 >pictures of the old mechanism to show me. Should be ready this coming
 >week ( AHEM! about time! but can’t rush a good thing ) and all the
 >other stuff that was wrong with it will be fixed, too!
 >Pittman arm, horn, four ways, trailer light plug, brake controller.
 >fuel line sender something leaking, etc.
 >The only thing I’ll have left to do is have the driver’s side arm rest
 >fixed. Unfortunately, he’s not an upholstery man.
 >OK guys. Have at me. I just feel that a) I know my limitations, b)
 >fixing things like this is not among those limitations, c) this guy
 >seems trustworthy and talented and d) it weren’t no good to me the way
 >it was.
 >You are all allowed to have a shot at me for being a) gullible or b) a
 >wimp. Last, I’m going to be towing my horses around with this vehicle.
 >No I’m not rich because I have horses. Just the opposite.
 >EquusKeepusBrokus! But maybe having this thing fixed for a little too
 >much money will give me one less thing to worry about when I’m out on
 >the freeway with the nags. How much is serenity worth?
 >But thanks to everyone who offered advice/insight/observations.
 >Update when I get it back and actually drive it
 >Larry
 >
 >
 >
Naah - I was seriously asking Sarge how much a complete, new, positrac
carrier SHOULD cost. (I can't seem to use the gmpartsdirect site 'cause
I don't know the part number.)
In my opinion, if your mechanic is rebuilding a poisitrac differential,
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:40:40 -0700, cew <cewillis DeleteThis @robsoncom.net>
wrote:

 >Sarge wrote:
 >
  >>"captainlarry" wrote in message "I just bought a 97 Chevy 3/4 6.5 diesel
  >>(2500) A mechanic going over the thing for me has informed me the rear end
  >>is shot. He found grindings in it and purchased a replacement from a dealer.
  >>This is my first pickup truck and my first experience with anything like
  >>this other than normal repair sort of stuff. The previous owner told me he
  >>replaced the trans and the injection pump within the last 18 months. I had
  >>the truck exactly two days when it made a loud thunking sound that made the
  >>truck actually shudder when backing up or cornering. Any ideas please. Is
  >>this gonna' be REAL expensive Thank you"
  >>
  >>If it is non locking rear end a new chunk ( the rear end internals
  >>reassembled) purchased from a dealer then the cost could be around 219.00
  >>dollars to 384.00 dollars according to how much the mechanic marks it up.
  >>GM direct shows the price for 219.00 plus shipping. I just changed the rear
  >>end and transmission in my play toy. I purchased it from locally in
  >>Louisiana at a GM parts supply place in Houma, LA. The part can be found at
  >>http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ also.
  >>
  >>Sarge
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
 >What do you think the price would be for a new positrac carrier assembly?



I think they run in the $600 to $700 range. no GM but something like
a Eaton posi unit.


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