power window switch or relay

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:51:14 -0500, Tom Lawrence wrote:

>> that thing was HUGE from the pics i seen, how is it you got it full?
>
> It's just a fact of life: A guy's collection of "stuff" will always
> grow to consume all available storage, and then some. Tools, tool
> chests, benches, parts carts, parts bins, shelving units, etc. I've got
> to do a major re-organization this spring. I want to move some stuff
> out, free up an area dedicated for metal-working (I want to be able to
> leave my plasma cutter set up all the time - PITA now to roll it out,
> hook it all up, just to cut a couple of gussets or something). I need
> to set up another dedicated area for the reloading
> bench/equipment/supplies (way, WAY far away from the plasma cutter
>
> <sigh> I need a bigger place...

I know how that is, but recently i've been downsizing my collection of
stuff. especially now that we are in a 2 bed apartment from that 4 bed
house i had.

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Chris
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

thanks a ton, you are a lot more help than my local dodge dealer. i
went and looked at the wiring diagram with the parts guy. he
confirmed that it was a tan wire (the hot lead) and a yellow wire (the
relay) that would be jumped but he said they had to be in the same
wiring pod.

my question then: i have two wiring plugs for the master switch. the
front one is smaller and he said that was only for the power mirrors,
but it is the only plug that has any yellow wires coming into it. it
has three. a small yellow with black stripe (not the one i want), a
small guage all yellow wire and larger guage all yellow wire.

the rear plug has the only tan wire going into it, and it is the
heavier guage, so i assume that is one of the wires to jump. can you
tell me which yellow one?

btw, the dealer said they sell a ton of these master switches and that
it is always the lock out switch that is bad in them.



On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:53:52 -0800, "FMB" <fmb.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>"Tom Lawrence" <tlawrence5.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:47ccb52d$0$47160$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
>> >i have a problem with my '03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine
>>> from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches
>>> will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am
>>> thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on
>>> the net said to check the "relay" first???
>>
>> First question... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH MY TRUCK?!
>>
>> Yeah, I've got the same truck ('03 3500), and the same problem. Although
>> with mine, it's somewhat intermittent. There isn't any relay... just a
>> circuit breaker. And that's the same circuit breaker that powers all
>> windows, including the driver's. I think it's poor contacts in the
>> lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the
>> other window switches.
>>
>> But - since 95% of the time, I'm the only one in my truck, it's hard for
>> me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it
>
>Hey Tom, I had the same issue with my 2500. I pulled the switch assembly out
>and was going to pull it apart to actually 'see' the individual switch that
>locks out the other windows, but it wouldn't come apart easily and didn't
>want to break it. So, after a little percussion maintenance (smack on the
>table with a towel to protect the finish), the switch seemed more stable to
>the VOM and I reassembled it. After 5-6 months, no problems.
>
>If it happens again, I think I'll jump the Yellow and Tan wires at the
>Driver Door Module to bypass the lockout switch all together (pg 8W-60-4).
>I suppose I could just replace the whole switch assembly, but why?
>
>FMB
>(North Mexico)
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

> the rear plug has the only tan wire going into it, and it is the
> heavier guage, so i assume that is one of the wires to jump. can you
> tell me which yellow one?

You want to jumper the tan wire from pin 9 of the 12-pin connector to the
yellow wire from pin 8 of the 8-pin connector
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

i know i'm sounding like a complete moron, but where do you find the
pin numbers? on the 8 pin connector a yellow wire is on each end, so
whatever end is the end rather than the first pin is hard to tell. on
the 12 pin connector, the there is only one tan wire but it sits right
in the middle, so i am not sure how that gets to pin 9.


On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:11:30 -0500, "Tom Lawrence"
<tlawrence5.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> the rear plug has the only tan wire going into it, and it is the
>> heavier guage, so i assume that is one of the wires to jump. can you
>> tell me which yellow one?
>
>You want to jumper the tan wire from pin 9 of the 12-pin connector to the
>yellow wire from pin 8 of the 8-pin connector
>
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

>i know i'm sounding like a complete moron, but where do you find the
> pin numbers? on the 8 pin connector a yellow wire is on each end,

Yeah... that would be the case, wouldn't it. You want the thicker of the
two (the 14 gauge wire, not the 20 gauge). For reference, looking at the
connector from the wire side, locking tab on top, pin #1 is the upper-left,
4 is the upper-right, 5 is lower-left, and 8 is lower-right.

> the 12 pin connector, the there is only one tan wire but it sits right
> in the middle, so i am not sure how that gets to pin 9.

Again, 1-6 on the top, and 7-12 on the bottom.
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:05:50 -0500, "Tom Lawrence"
<tlawrence5.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>i know i'm sounding like a complete moron, but where do you find the
>> pin numbers? on the 8 pin connector a yellow wire is on each end,
>
>Yeah... that would be the case, wouldn't it. You want the thicker of the
>two (the 14 gauge wire, not the 20 gauge). For reference, looking at the
>connector from the wire side, locking tab on top, pin #1 is the upper-left,
>4 is the upper-right, 5 is lower-left, and 8 is lower-right.
>
>> the 12 pin connector, the there is only one tan wire but it sits right
>> in the middle, so i am not sure how that gets to pin 9.
>
>Again, 1-6 on the top, and 7-12 on the bottom.
>


perfect. thank you very much, that was right on. did it and my
passengers have their power windows back! again, thank you.
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

> perfect. thank you very much, that was right on. did it and my
> passengers have their power windows back! again, thank you.

Wanna come over and do mine, too? :^)
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:38:14 -0500, Tom Lawrence wrote:

>> perfect. thank you very much, that was right on. did it and my
>> passengers have their power windows back! again, thank you.
>
> Wanna come over and do mine, too? :^)

You might even get Tom to let you use the garage........

<GBMFG>

--
Chris
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:23:59 +0000, "Christopher D. Thompson"
<nospam RemoveThis @nospam.nospam> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:38:14 -0500, Tom Lawrence wrote:
>
>>> perfect. thank you very much, that was right on. did it and my
>>> passengers have their power windows back! again, thank you.
>>
>> Wanna come over and do mine, too? :^)
>
>You might even get Tom to let you use the garage........
>
><GBMFG>

well........just from reading what he writes here, i doubt he'd let me
near his truck. he seems to have a mechanics knack. me, i have a a
nack for messing up anything mechanical. but, i did take my time with
this jumper and i even used real connectors to jump it instead of a
knife and electrical tape.
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:36:05 +0000, theguy wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:23:59 +0000, "Christopher D. Thompson"
> <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:38:14 -0500, Tom Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>>> perfect. thank you very much, that was right on. did it and my
>>>> passengers have their power windows back! again, thank you.
>>>
>>> Wanna come over and do mine, too? :^)
>>
>>You might even get Tom to let you use the garage........
>>
>><GBMFG>
>
> well........just from reading what he writes here, i doubt he'd let me
> near his truck. he seems to have a mechanics knack. me, i have a a
> nack for messing up anything mechanical. but, i did take my time with
> this jumper and i even used real connectors to jump it instead of a
> knife and electrical tape.

LOL

glad you got it to work out for ya.

and he did ask if you would do it for him *cheezy grin*

--
Chris
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay