power window switch or relay

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:34:19 -0500, "Tom Lawrence"
<tlawrence5.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>i have a problem with my '03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine
>> from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches
>> will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am
>> thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on
>> the net said to check the "relay" first???
>
>First question... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH MY TRUCK?!
>
>Yeah, I've got the same truck ('03 3500), and the same problem. Although
>with mine, it's somewhat intermittent. There isn't any relay... just a
>circuit breaker. And that's the same circuit breaker that powers all
>windows, including the driver's. I think it's poor contacts in the lock-out
>switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the other window
>switches.
>
>But - since 95% of the time, I'm the only one in my truck, it's hard for me
>to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it
>

i hear you. i let it go for a long time. and it started off
intermittent in mine too but now it is all the time. the first time i
noticed it was when i had my fifth wheel hooked up so i thought maybe
it was a short in the traler wiring or something. but now it's spring
and i am going to retire in a couple of months and i'm really getting
this "spring cleaning need" to get everything working like it should.
maybe if i just wait for a while the urge will go away.
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gain access use some Radioshack tv tuner cleaner, contact cleaner, even WD40
may help.
Or replace the switch if that is where the power to the remaining switches
are getting interrupted.











<theguy RemoveThis @whatever.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:34:19 -0500, "Tom Lawrence"
> <tlawrence5 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>i have a problem with my '03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine
> >> from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches
> >> will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am
> >> thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on
> >> the net said to check the "relay" first???
> >
> >First question... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH MY TRUCK?!
> >
> >Yeah, I've got the same truck ('03 3500), and the same problem. Although
> >with mine, it's somewhat intermittent. There isn't any relay... just a
> >circuit breaker. And that's the same circuit breaker that powers all
> >windows, including the driver's. I think it's poor contacts in the
lock-out
> >switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the other
window
> >switches.
> >
> >But - since 95% of the time, I'm the only one in my truck, it's hard for
me
> >to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it
> >
>
> i hear you. i let it go for a long time. and it started off
> intermittent in mine too but now it is all the time. the first time i
> noticed it was when i had my fifth wheel hooked up so i thought maybe
> it was a short in the traler wiring or something. but now it's spring
> and i am going to retire in a couple of months and i'm really getting
> this "spring cleaning need" to get everything working like it should.
> maybe if i just wait for a while the urge will go away.
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

Tom,
Wow, you were the one that told me how easy is was to change my driver's
side mirror and it was. That same procedure drops the switch panel in your
hands. So access is 10 minutes, no more and this problem can only be a flaky
switch or a flaky switch connection.
Steve


"Tom Lawrence" <tlawrence5.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> >i have a problem with my '03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine
>> from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches
>> will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am
>> thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on
>> the net said to check the "relay" first???
>
> First question... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH MY TRUCK?!
>
> Yeah, I've got the same truck ('03 3500), and the same problem. Although
> with mine, it's somewhat intermittent. There isn't any relay... just a
> circuit breaker. And that's the same circuit breaker that powers all
> windows, including the driver's. I think it's poor contacts in the
> lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the
> other window switches.
>
> But - since 95% of the time, I'm the only one in my truck, it's hard for
> me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

> Wow, you were the one that told me how easy is was to change my driver's
> side mirror and it was. That same procedure drops the switch panel in your
> hands. So access is 10 minutes, no more and this problem can only be a
> flaky switch or a flaky switch connection.

Yeah... pathetic of me, isn't it? I know, I know... I really should just
go out there and fix it. But... it's cold and rainy outside - nice and
warm in here. Plus, I'm lazy.

Maybe one of these days...
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"Tom Lawrence" <tlawrence5.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> Wow, you were the one that told me how easy is was to change my driver's
>> side mirror and it was. That same procedure drops the switch panel in
>> your hands. So access is 10 minutes, no more and this problem can only be
>> a flaky switch or a flaky switch connection.
>
> Yeah... pathetic of me, isn't it? I know, I know... I really should
> just go out there and fix it. But... it's cold and rainy outside - nice
> and warm in here. Plus, I'm lazy.
>
> Maybe one of these days...
>

Too bad, it is sunny, about 78 here, top is off the jeep, life is good.
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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:08:21 -0500, Tom Lawrence wrote:

>> Wow, you were the one that told me how easy is was to change my
>> driver's side mirror and it was. That same procedure drops the switch
>> panel in your hands. So access is 10 minutes, no more and this problem
>> can only be a flaky switch or a flaky switch connection.
>
> Yeah... pathetic of me, isn't it? I know, I know... I really should
> just go out there and fix it. But... it's cold and rainy outside -
> nice and warm in here. Plus, I'm lazy.
>
> Maybe one of these days...

And what about this MONSTER shop you have???!!!!!

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Chris
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> And what about this MONSTER shop you have???!!!!!

It's gotten a lot smaller, lately. I can barely fit the vehicles in there
now. I need to seriously consider expanding it. My township's zoning
office is probably going to have a fit over this.
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"Tom Lawrence" <tlawrence5.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> >i have a problem with my '03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine
>> from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches
>> will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am
>> thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on
>> the net said to check the "relay" first???
>
> First question... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH MY TRUCK?!
>
> Yeah, I've got the same truck ('03 3500), and the same problem. Although
> with mine, it's somewhat intermittent. There isn't any relay... just a
> circuit breaker. And that's the same circuit breaker that powers all
> windows, including the driver's. I think it's poor contacts in the
> lock-out switch myself - as the lockout switch provides power to all the
> other window switches.
>
> But - since 95% of the time, I'm the only one in my truck, it's hard for
> me to get motivated enough to take the switch panel out and fix it

Hey Tom, I had the same issue with my 2500. I pulled the switch assembly out
and was going to pull it apart to actually 'see' the individual switch that
locks out the other windows, but it wouldn't come apart easily and didn't
want to break it. So, after a little percussion maintenance (smack on the
table with a towel to protect the finish), the switch seemed more stable to
the VOM and I reassembled it. After 5-6 months, no problems.

If it happens again, I think I'll jump the Yellow and Tan wires at the
Driver Door Module to bypass the lockout switch all together (pg 8W-60-4).
I suppose I could just replace the whole switch assembly, but why?

FMB
(North Mexico)



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> If it happens again, I think I'll jump the Yellow and Tan wires at the
> Driver Door Module to bypass the lockout switch all together (pg 8W-60-4).
> I suppose I could just replace the whole switch assembly, but why?

That's what I was thinking about doing... I've got no need for the lock-out
switch, so if I can't clean up the switch contacts, it'll be no skin off my
back to bypass it altogether.

Once I get around to it, of course
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Mine is acting up as well..... I just did a quick search in google for it
and it came back as $12.92 for the switch here:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1413414&par...pe=4608

I think I'll probably breakdown and just get the new switch.

Just don't want to have to rip my door panel apart.

Steve

<theguy.RemoveThis@whatever.net> wrote in message
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> i have a problem with my '03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine
> from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches
> will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am
> thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on
> the net said to check the "relay" first???
>
> any suggestions?
 >> Stay informed about: power window switch or relay 

<theguy.DeleteThis@whatever.net> wrote in message
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>i have a problem with my '03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine
> from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches
> will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am
> thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on
> the net said to check the "relay" first???
>
> any suggestions?

Looking at the schamatics, the only thing it could be is the switch
assembly. fix or replace it.



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Currently residing at a Subaru Shop
4.5 years doing tires and alighnments
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"Steven Santinelli" <ssantinelli RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Mine is acting up as well..... I just did a quick search in google for it
> and it came back as $12.92 for the switch here:
>
> http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1413414&par...pe=4608
>
> I think I'll probably breakdown and just get the new switch.
>
> Just don't want to have to rip my door panel apart.
>
> Steve
>
> <theguy RemoveThis @whatever.net> wrote in message
> news:f19ps3tsimpjbhv42ss8fhdoisc3thij9f@4ax.com...
>> i have a problem with my '03 dodge 3500. the power windows work fine
>> from the drivers position but none of the passenger positon switches
>> will work the related window. the lock out button is not on. i am
>> thinking i may need a new switch but the only posting i could find on
>> the net said to check the "relay" first???
>>
>> any suggestions?

Steven, unfortunately, the issue the OP has won't be fixed with that $13
part. That is a door lock switch for the right-front door. Just below that
is window switches, but only for the 3 doors that feed off the power from
the driver's door switch. I couldn't see the driver's door switch assembly
as being offered by RockAuto.

You can go to www.newmoparparts.com and drill down and see the actual switch
assembly for the driver's door is $104 discounted to $83. This assembly
holds all the switches in the driver's door and the one single switch in
that assembly that seems to go bad is the switch that locks out the ability
for passengers to control their own window. It locks out the other door's
switches by turning off the power to those switches. That is great if you
still have booger-pickers and curtain-climbers.

For those of us that don't need this switch, a simple wire jumper between
the two wires going to that switch will act as an 'always enabled' switch.
That is the way I'll go if the switch goes bad again.

Oh, and that doesn't fix all problems, some have issues with the connector
304 in the kick panel or splice 333 under the floor carpet. I hadn't heard
many of those though.

FMB
(North Mexico)



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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:26:38 -0500, Tom Lawrence wrote:

>> And what about this MONSTER shop you have???!!!!!
>
> It's gotten a lot smaller, lately. I can barely fit the vehicles in
> there now. I need to seriously consider expanding it. My township's
> zoning office is probably going to have a fit over this.


that thing was HUGE from the pics i seen, how is it you got it full? all
the parts that came off the truck with upgrades?
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