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TBone wrote:

> Just because you lived there doesn't make you an expert as you are more than
> proving here.

Far more so than you who know zilch.
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TBone wrote:

> Sorry Miles, but while Mexico has come a long way and continues to
> improve, they still have a lot of issues and a lot of poor that simply
> cannot find work and not all of it is unskilled labor.

Never said otherwise. I only stated that Mexico is NOT a country where
most people are dirt poor and starving. Mexico exports its poverty to
the USA as a way of solving the problem. Those that come here are
mostly under and uneducated.
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TBone wrote:

> Oh, really Miles??? Then how do you explain the last and upcomming
> elections?

You mean Mexico's elections where the liberal candidate lost and started
a huge protest even worse than what the liberals in the USA did in FL?
When a liberal loses they never blame themselves to improve next time
and gain votes. Same in the USA or Mexico.
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"Miles" <nope RemoveThis @nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
>
>> Just because you lived there doesn't make you an expert as you are more
>> than proving here.
>
> Far more so than you who know zilch.

Say all that you want Miles because all you are really managing to do is
prove my points. 40% below the poverty level is even worse than Jamaica and
to see the way some of the people live over there is enough to make you cry.

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"Miles" <nope RemoveThis @nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
>
>> Oh, really Miles??? Then how do you explain the last and upcomming
>> elections?
>
> You mean Mexico's elections where the liberal candidate lost and started a
> huge protest even worse than what the liberals in the USA did in FL? When
> a liberal loses they never blame themselves to improve next time and gain
> votes. Same in the USA or Mexico.

Actually Miles. I was talking about this country.


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TBone wrote:

> Say all that you want Miles because all you are really managing to do is
> prove my points. 40% below the poverty level is even worse than Jamaica and
> to see the way some of the people live over there is enough to make you cry.

Mexico ranks right next to Australia for % of people living below the
median income. That 40% is also based on the USA's poverty level which
doesn't apply to Mexico to well. Someone earning a wage at the USA's
poverty level would certainly not be poor in Mexico. Heck, most people
at the USA's poverty level would be considered doing rather well in many
other countries.

Jamaica huh? Hmm. Another country you've never been too but know all
about huh?
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TBone wrote:

> Actually Miles. I was talking about this country.

Hatred and false promises from liberal politicians. They have not
delivered what they campaigned to do. And sorry TBone, it's not because
of Reps that the Dems have not delivered. They haven't even tried. But
they have tried to do even worse. If it weren't for the Reps our
spending would be even higher than it is. The Reps are horrible but the
Dems are not the answer.
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Nathan W. Collier wrote:

> if that works for you, good. believe what you wish. on the one hand i have
> a mexican native (former/future) employee and in fact a very good friend
> telling me one thing, and some guy on the internet who i dont know telling
> me that he found something on the internet

Huh Nate? I don't base anything on the internet. I've lived there and
have family in Mexico. I know what it's like there. Your beliefs are
old worn out stereotypical myths not based on anything other than
hearsay. It's sad that so many in this country have a complete lack of
understanding about our neighbors.
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"miles" <nope.TakeThisOut@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> Huh Nate? I don't base anything on the internet.

you were quoting a mexican government website. that _is_ something you
found on the internet.


> I know what it's like there. Your beliefs are old worn out stereotypical
> myths not based on anything other than hearsay.

ill let oscar know hes really NOT earning roughly $5 a day. ill let him
know that hes NOT sharing a house with a dozen other people (only way they
can afford a house) and ill let him know its because some guy on the
internet told me its just a stereotypical myth.

......ok, actually hes not. i sent him money to float on until we can get
him back up here. but he WAS before i sent the money.
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Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "miles" <nope.TakeThisOut@nopers.com> wrote in message
> news:1WNuj.21201$n42.17232@newsfe08.phx...
>> Huh Nate? I don't base anything on the internet.
>
> you were quoting a mexican government website. that _is_ something you
> found on the internet.


To TBone on an unrelated subject because he demands sites which I agree
with you that they're worthless. You can find anything you want on the
internet to show anything you want.

You replied about Gov. corruption. It's here in the USA as well but
works a bit different. Not as blatent. But the idea of trying to bribe
your way out of a mess in Mexico is myth.

> ill let oscar know hes really NOT earning roughly $5 a day.

If he needs a better paying job let me know. I know where to send him
to make far more. Theres people here in the USA making didly squat.
You base what all of Mexico is like based on Oscar?

> know that hes NOT sharing a house with a dozen other people (only way they
> can afford a house)

Theres people in the USA doing the same thing. Whats your point?

and ill let him know its because some guy on the
> internet told me its just a stereotypical myth.

Theres poor people in the USA as well. Should the USA be stereotyped in
the same way as you are with Mexico?
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"miles" <nope.TakeThisOut@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
>
>> Say all that you want Miles because all you are really managing to do is
>> prove my points. 40% below the poverty level is even worse than Jamaica
>> and to see the way some of the people live over there is enough to make
>> you cry.
>
> Mexico ranks right next to Australia for % of people living below the
> median income.

That is not true. Perhaps you had better go back and really look at the
site that you posted. IIRC, and I'm not going to even bother wasting the
time to look, the rating that you are refering to is GNP, not the number of
people living above or below the poverty line. The poverty level rating can
be found by clicking on Mexico in the main rating list and then clicking on
the link where it shows the poverty level. A whole new list pops up showing
the ranks of the different countries according to population below the
poverty level and Australia is nowhere near it but Jamaica is right above it
and everyone knows just how dirt poor that country is.

> That 40% is also based on the USA's poverty level which doesn't apply to
> Mexico to well.

Damn Miles, can you really be this stupid???? That would make it a
meaningless number. Sorry to burst you bubble Miles, but once again you are
dead wrong. Those numbers are based on the poverty level of the specific
country, not the US.

> Someone earning a wage at the USA's poverty level would certainly not be
> poor in Mexico.

That is correct so please explain the meaning of using the US poverty level
as a basis point for other countries. You will not be able to because it
makes no sense at all and would be completely meaningless. Hell Miles, even
in this country you can't even do that between States. Do you really think
that you can live at the same level for the same money in California as you
can in Montana.

> Heck, most people at the USA's poverty level would be considered doing
> rather well in many other countries.

Again, more proof that basing poverty level of other countries on American
incomes as you said they did would be completely meaningless and that you
really don't know WTF you are talking about.

>
> Jamaica huh? Hmm. Another country you've never been too but know all
> about huh?

Actually Miles. I have been there a few times. As you like to say, I have,
or in this case had, family over there. And like you said, many of the
locals are loving and caring people but many don't have a pot to piss in.

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"miles" <nope.DeleteThis@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>> "miles" <nope.DeleteThis@nopers.com> wrote in message
>> news:1WNuj.21201$n42.17232@newsfe08.phx...
>>> Huh Nate? I don't base anything on the internet.
>>
>> you were quoting a mexican government website. that _is_ something you
>> found on the internet.
>
>
> To TBone on an unrelated subject because he demands sites which I agree
> with you that they're worthless. You can find anything you want on the
> internet to show anything you want.

Damn Miles, now you have to resort to lies.

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"Miles" <nope.TakeThisOut@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
>
>> Sorry Miles, but while Mexico has come a long way and continues to
>> improve, they still have a lot of issues and a lot of poor that simply
>> cannot find work and not all of it is unskilled labor.
>
> Never said otherwise.

Yes, you did. According to you, most Mexicans are doing quite well and
simply choose to live the way that they do due to "cultural differences".
If this were in fact true, they would not have the issues that they do and
the number of them trying to get here would be much less.

> I only stated that Mexico is NOT a country where most people are dirt poor
> and starving.

Most no, but 40% is still damn high and if those figures were reported to
that site by the Mexican Government, then I suspect that number to be much
higher than that.

> Mexico exports its poverty to the USA as a way of solving the problem.

LOL, another statement that you cannot possibly hope to back up. This is
your opinion Miles and nothing more.

> Those that come here are mostly under and uneducated.

I would say that the higher percentage are exactly that but why are there so
many of them Miles? Are you saying that Mexicans are typically stupid or
lazy? Is that part of the cultural differences that you keep talking about?

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