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(Msg. 46) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:04 pm
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:07:32 -0700, "Nathan W. Collier" <no RemoveThis @way.com> wrote:
>"mac davis" <macsplinters RemoveThis @davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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>> corrupt government???
>> Oh, you meant the U.S... I get it now..
>
>isnt the mexican government more blatent about letting you buy your way out
>of anything? i dont know the extent of their involvement in sending mexican
>troops into the US to smuggle drugs (engaging our border patrol in the
>process) but theyve done nothing to acknowledge the problem and seemingly
>nothing to end it.
Only in the movies, nate, as far as we've seen...
Everyone told us that we should carry a lot of cash in several different places
so we could pay bribes all the time... NOT..
You wouldn't believe the hoops that we had to jump through to move here, not pay
full tariff on our stuff, and such...
Also, we're not allowed to work, unless we can prove that the job doesn't cause
a National to lose job or chance of one..
We pass through a military checkpoint whenever we head to the border or back..
Those kids with m-16's sure look serious when they search the cars..
mac
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:10 pm
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Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "miles" <nope.RemoveThis@nopers.com> wrote in message
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>> IMSS is a Mexican Gov.
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> this is laughable miles. you consider the mexican government _credible_?
Generally speaking yes it is. For any problem in Mexico's Gov. it's not
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:12 pm
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Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> coming from one quoting mexican government statistics thats laughable miles.
IOW;s your a typical person that assumes Mexico is dirt poor with a
highly corrupt non-functional Gov. all based on anything but fact. The
USA's Gov. is corrupt in much the same manner. >> Stay informed about: ping: Nate .. old baja pics |
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:13 pm
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mac davis wrote:
> corrupt government???
> Oh, you meant the U.S... I get it now..
Thats true. For all the problems people state about the Mexican Gov.
they seem to ignore very similar problems in the USA. >> Stay informed about: ping: Nate .. old baja pics |
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:19 pm
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Nathan W. Collier wrote:
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> isnt the mexican government more blatent about letting you buy your way out
> of anything?
Thats an old myth. Doesn't happen very often just as in the USA. It
was more common 20-30 years ago but not so much today. Attempting to
bribe a law official will more often than not get you into far more trouble. >> Stay informed about: ping: Nate .. old baja pics |
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:23 am
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"mac davis" <macsplinters.RemoveThis@davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:32:35 -0500, "TBone" <NoWay.RemoveThis@nothere.com> wrote:
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>>I do like that roof. It looks like a nice place to hang out in the
>>evenings
>>and in the morning before the sun cranks up with some interesting views.
>
> It's sort of a myth, T...
> Everyone thinks that they're going to spend lots of time on the roof,
> maybe even
> sleep there some hot nights..
> We even had the main part tiled and plumbed for a hot tub..
>
> The reality is you go up once in a while, if it's not too hot or too
> windy, but
> most company wants to be on the courtyard or inside..
>
> Our neighbor has a bbq, tables, bar & stools and just about everything
> else up
> on his.. I think he used the roof a lot at first but hardly ever does
> now..
>
>
That's too bad. It looks like from the pictures like a nice place to hang
out.
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:31 am
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"mac davis" <macsplinters DeleteThis @davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:06:17 -0500, "TBone" <NoWay DeleteThis @nothere.com> wrote:
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>>I think that you also need to consider the cost of living there Mac.
>>People
>>are not going to work for less than they need to survive, at least not for
>>long. If the cost of living is high as it is in CA, then they will make
>>more because the employers simply will not be able to get workers for
>>less.
>>Now the illegals will work for less than many of the legals and just about
>>any American, but they still need to make enough to survive. They are
>>also
>>used to much lower standards of living than most Americans so having 6 or
>>more workers sharing a 1 bedroom apartment is no big deal for them as they
>>have electricity, running water, an indoor bathroom, heat and AC, and some
>>securitry. The extra money can be sent back home to their families.
>
> Very true.. I saw a lot of really packed housing in the Fresno & Madera
> areas of
> CA...
>
> A big difference there is that these were seasonal workers, following
> crops from
> Mexico, Ca, AZ and so on, as crops were ready to pick..
>
> Otoh, very few people crossing the borders illegally are very highly
> skilled..
> The demand for skilled labor, especially high tech, is very strong in the
> Ensenada and TJ areas and building skills are in demand in most of Baja..
>
> Some of the larger condo complexes going up in my area have had to import
> a lot
> of the labor from the States..
That's kinda funny as many of the builders here in NC (at least my area) are
Mexican and many don't speak much if any english. Now I don't know if they
are all illegals or not but I bet some of them are as it sorta looks like
they live in that van they drive to the sites. Then again, their work is
far from the best that I have seen but they are paid by the job, not the
hour so the more work that they do.... I guess that many will always go
where the money is. Now that the building in shis state is rapidly comming
to a halt as it is in many other areas of the country, you may get some of
them back.
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:31 am
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:31:24 -0500, "TBone" <NoWay.DeleteThis@nothere.com> wrote:
>"mac davis" <macsplinters.DeleteThis@davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:06:17 -0500, "TBone" <NoWay.DeleteThis@nothere.com> wrote:
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>>>I think that you also need to consider the cost of living there Mac.
>>>People
>>>are not going to work for less than they need to survive, at least not for
>>>long. If the cost of living is high as it is in CA, then they will make
>>>more because the employers simply will not be able to get workers for
>>>less.
>>>Now the illegals will work for less than many of the legals and just about
>>>any American, but they still need to make enough to survive. They are
>>>also
>>>used to much lower standards of living than most Americans so having 6 or
>>>more workers sharing a 1 bedroom apartment is no big deal for them as they
>>>have electricity, running water, an indoor bathroom, heat and AC, and some
>>>securitry. The extra money can be sent back home to their families.
>>
>> Very true.. I saw a lot of really packed housing in the Fresno & Madera
>> areas of
>> CA...
>>
>> A big difference there is that these were seasonal workers, following
>> crops from
>> Mexico, Ca, AZ and so on, as crops were ready to pick..
>>
>> Otoh, very few people crossing the borders illegally are very highly
>> skilled..
>> The demand for skilled labor, especially high tech, is very strong in the
>> Ensenada and TJ areas and building skills are in demand in most of Baja..
>>
>> Some of the larger condo complexes going up in my area have had to import
>> a lot
>> of the labor from the States..
>
>
>That's kinda funny as many of the builders here in NC (at least my area) are
>Mexican and many don't speak much if any english. Now I don't know if they
>are all illegals or not but I bet some of them are as it sorta looks like
>they live in that van they drive to the sites. Then again, their work is
>far from the best that I have seen but they are paid by the job, not the
>hour so the more work that they do.... I guess that many will always go
>where the money is. Now that the building in shis state is rapidly comming
>to a halt as it is in many other areas of the country, you may get some of
>them back.
WOW.. I can't even imagine being from Mexico, especially the Baja, and
experiencing a NC winter... *shudder*
mac
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(Msg. 54) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:34 am
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"Miles" <nope DeleteThis @nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
>> LOL, not by definition and with what you say the current minimum wage is
>> and even what many are making, the definition is correct andf you are
>> wrong, imagine that.
>
> You still trying to argue about a country you have never been too, have no
> family there and know zilch about? Ya, thats your style.
Just because you lived there doesn't make you an expert as you are more than
proving here.
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:51 am
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"Miles" <nope.RemoveThis@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
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>> LOL, if I were to eliminate your housing costs, could you live on 15 to
>> 20 dollars a day.
>
> Thats the average, not median income. Again, people in Mexico have vastly
> different priorities. They live quite well. Now quit trying to argue
> about a country you have never even been too.
>
>
>> Even if the median income were double that (and I doubt that)
>
> Take a look. Mexico is ranked between Australia and Poland. Hardly dirt
> poor countries.
>
> http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_pop_bel_med_inc_pergdp-below-med...-income
Did you actually bother to click on the link and read it or are you just
trying to make it easier for me? There population below the poverty level
is 40%. Since you seem to be stuck in moron mode, that means that almost
half of the population doesn't make enough to really survive. This is what
makes up your cultural differences and why so many try and come here,
legally or otherwise. Even from the link that you sent me:
"CALDERON has stated that his top priorities include reducing poverty and
creating jobs"
it also mentions the need to upgrade infrastructure and modernize labor
laws. Sorry Miles, but while Mexico has come a long way and continues to
improve, they still have a lot of issues and a lot of poor that simply
cannot find work and not all of it is unskilled labor.
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:57 am
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"Miles" <nope DeleteThis @nopers.com> wrote in message
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> mac davis wrote:
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>> corrupt government???
>> Oh, you meant the U.S... I get it now..
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> Thats true. For all the problems people state about the Mexican Gov. they
> seem to ignore very similar problems in the USA.
Oh, really Miles??? Then how do you explain the last and upcomming
elections?
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(Msg. 57) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:44 pm
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:48 pm
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:50 pm
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:50 pm
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:50:45 -0700, "Nathan W. Collier" <no.DeleteThis@way.com> wrote:
>"mac davis" <macsplinters.DeleteThis@davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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>> The reality is you go up once in a while, if it's not too hot or too
>> windy, but
>> most company wants to be on the courtyard or inside..
>
>i like it because it looks like a very defensible position. 
I'll have to post a pic of the neighbor's house.. we call it The Alamo..
mac
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