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(Msg. 31) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:58 am
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:58 am
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:58:29 -0700, "Nathan W. Collier" <no.RemoveThis@way.com> wrote:
>"miles" <nope.RemoveThis@nopers.com> wrote in message
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>> IMSS is a Mexican Gov.
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>this is laughable miles. you consider the mexican government _credible_?
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>...i think ill put my trust in those who live and work there. the "average
>joe"....or "average pedro" would know a lot more about living conditions for
>the average pedro than would the corrupt government.
corrupt government???
Oh, you meant the U.S... I get it now..
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:00 am
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"miles" <nope.RemoveThis@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
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>> Oh really??? Go look it up and post the definition.
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> "Developing Nation". Has nothing to do with being poor and everything to
> do with the style of social, political, and economic cultures.
LOL, not by definition and with what you say the current minimum wage is and
even what many are making, the definition is correct andf you are wrong,
imagine that.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:02 am
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:05 am
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"miles" <nope.TakeThisOut@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
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>> So you are saying that the average Mexican is making 15 to 20 dollars a
>> day???
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> That is the average and not the median income. Housing costs about 90%
> less than in the USA except in areas close to our borders. Theres also
> considerable free housing available in many cities especially southern
> Mexico.
LOL, if I were to eliminate your housing costs, could you live on 15 to 20
dollars a day. Even if the median income were double that (and I doubt
that), could you feed and cloth a family of 8 for that? I used that number
because you made that claim about 6 kids with the new truck. How about a
more realistic family of 4??? As for that free housing, I doubt that it is
very livable or there would be no reason for so many Mexicans to try and
come here.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:07 am
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:07 am
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:07:13 -0700, "Nathan W. Collier" <no DeleteThis @way.com> wrote:
>"mac davis" <macsplinters DeleteThis @davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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>> http://www.davisbaja.com/sept-baja.htm
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>i did. thats really neat. what is that type of housing called and how is
>it constructed?
Not sure what you mean by "Type of housing"?
If you mean the style, I'd guess something like "Southwest" but I really don't
know.. They just ask that it have a "Mexican" flow to it..
We pretty much told the builder that we wanted 2 bedrooms and baths, a shop and
as few walls as possible..
His 2nd floorplan was right on and we told him to go for it.. The great room is
about 30 feet long with no walls dividing what would be kitchen/living/dining
rooms in the states.. Lots of open space and windows, lots of French doors,
front and back verandas, etc..
The foundation is concrete slab poured on packed red dirt...
The exterior walls are stuff made up of cement and styrofoam, known as
"durawall", Performa wall" and "Newdura"...
Sort of like building out of block, except the material is much lighter and
better insulating.. Also, it comes in a lot longer strips, so it foes up
faster..
The roof is cement poured over a form braced on concrete beams on 24" centers..
I can't remember if it's 4, 6, or 8" thick..
The inside ceilings are 6" of foam, which is plastered and painted..
The windows and patio doors are double pane and tinted..
That's about all I can remember, Nate..
mac
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:32 pm
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"mac davis" <macsplinters RemoveThis @davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:07:13 -0700, "Nathan W. Collier" <no RemoveThis @way.com>
> wrote:
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>>"mac davis" <macsplinters RemoveThis @davisbaja.com> wrote in message
>>news:56thr35snfl863d9ok95lhk7hucmfc5ldh@4ax.com...
>>> http://www.davisbaja.com/sept-baja.htm
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>>i did. thats really neat. what is that type of housing called and how is
>>it constructed?
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> Not sure what you mean by "Type of housing"?
> If you mean the style, I'd guess something like "Southwest" but I really
> don't
> know.. They just ask that it have a "Mexican" flow to it..
> We pretty much told the builder that we wanted 2 bedrooms and baths, a
> shop and
> as few walls as possible..
> His 2nd floorplan was right on and we told him to go for it.. The great
> room is
> about 30 feet long with no walls dividing what would be
> kitchen/living/dining
> rooms in the states.. Lots of open space and windows, lots of French
> doors,
> front and back verandas, etc..
>
> The foundation is concrete slab poured on packed red dirt...
> The exterior walls are stuff made up of cement and styrofoam, known as
> "durawall", Performa wall" and "Newdura"...
> Sort of like building out of block, except the material is much lighter
> and
> better insulating.. Also, it comes in a lot longer strips, so it foes up
> faster..
>
> The roof is cement poured over a form braced on concrete beams on 24"
> centers..
> I can't remember if it's 4, 6, or 8" thick..
> The inside ceilings are 6" of foam, which is plastered and painted..
>
> The windows and patio doors are double pane and tinted..
>
> That's about all I can remember, Nate..
I do like that roof. It looks like a nice place to hang out in the evenings
and in the morning before the sun cranks up with some interesting views.
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:07 pm
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:08 pm
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:33 pm
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TBone wrote:
> LOL, not by definition and with what you say the current minimum wage is and
> even what many are making, the definition is correct andf you are wrong,
> imagine that.
You still trying to argue about a country you have never been too, have
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:44 pm
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:49 pm
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:32:35 -0500, "TBone" <NoWay RemoveThis @nothere.com> wrote:
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>I do like that roof. It looks like a nice place to hang out in the evenings
>and in the morning before the sun cranks up with some interesting views.
It's sort of a myth, T...
Everyone thinks that they're going to spend lots of time on the roof, maybe even
sleep there some hot nights..
We even had the main part tiled and plumbed for a hot tub..
The reality is you go up once in a while, if it's not too hot or too windy, but
most company wants to be on the courtyard or inside..
Our neighbor has a bbq, tables, bar & stools and just about everything else up
on his.. I think he used the roof a lot at first but hardly ever does now..
mac
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:52 pm
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:08:15 -0700, "Nathan W. Collier" <no RemoveThis @way.com> wrote:
>"mac davis" <macsplinters RemoveThis @davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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>> Not sure what you mean by "Type of housing"?
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>like "ranch house", "victorian house", etc. if i wanted to build a house
>just like yours i wouldnt know what to begin to ask for.
We really didn't either...
We spent an afternoon with the builder, looking at homes that he was working on
or had recently finished, with him asking "like/dislike" questions..
The next day we met at his office and talked about size, price, etc..
he emailed ideas until we liked one..
Most have web pages with sample houses and floor plans, too..
mac
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:58 pm
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:06:17 -0500, "TBone" <NoWay.RemoveThis@nothere.com> wrote:
>I think that you also need to consider the cost of living there Mac. People
>are not going to work for less than they need to survive, at least not for
>long. If the cost of living is high as it is in CA, then they will make
>more because the employers simply will not be able to get workers for less.
>Now the illegals will work for less than many of the legals and just about
>any American, but they still need to make enough to survive. They are also
>used to much lower standards of living than most Americans so having 6 or
>more workers sharing a 1 bedroom apartment is no big deal for them as they
>have electricity, running water, an indoor bathroom, heat and AC, and some
>securitry. The extra money can be sent back home to their families.
Very true.. I saw a lot of really packed housing in the Fresno & Madera areas of
CA...
A big difference there is that these were seasonal workers, following crops from
Mexico, Ca, AZ and so on, as crops were ready to pick..
Otoh, very few people crossing the borders illegally are very highly skilled..
The demand for skilled labor, especially high tech, is very strong in the
Ensenada and TJ areas and building skills are in demand in most of Baja..
Some of the larger condo complexes going up in my area have had to import a lot
of the labor from the States..
mac
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