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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:42:15 -0700, "Nathan W. Collier" <no.TakeThisOut@way.com> wrote:

>i never got them. message was empty.

hmm... your server must have stripped them...
Did you get the link for the old ones?

http://www.davisbaja.com/sept-baja.htm


mac

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"mac davis" <macsplinters.DeleteThis@davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:14:17 -0500, "Nosey"
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> wrote:
>
>>I hope you feel better soon. I was sick as a dog on Wednesday. I laid on
>>the
>>couch for about 18 hours with a fever. I only got up for bathroom breaks
>>and
>>my head hurt so bad I could hardly keep my balance. I'm still feeling some
>>of it today but I'm medicating with copious amounts of a fermented malted
>>barley and hops remedy. It doesn't do much for balance but it eases the
>>pain
>>some.
> Thanks... I don't get sick very often, so it kind of pisses me off when I
> am..
> I've been at half speed or less for a week and really down for 2 days...
> I ducked the last 3 or 4 bugs but this one caught me good... I hate not
> being
> able to work in the shop..grrrr..
>

Mega dose the vitamin C bro.

Roy
> mac
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:28:15 -0500, "Roy" <Roy.TakeThisOut@Fhome.net> wrote:

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>"mac davis" <macsplinters.TakeThisOut@davisbaja.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:14:17 -0500, "Nosey"
>> <kfrei43.TakeThisOut@removethis.hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I hope you feel better soon. I was sick as a dog on Wednesday. I laid on
>>>the
>>>couch for about 18 hours with a fever. I only got up for bathroom breaks
>>>and
>>>my head hurt so bad I could hardly keep my balance. I'm still feeling some
>>>of it today but I'm medicating with copious amounts of a fermented malted
>>>barley and hops remedy. It doesn't do much for balance but it eases the
>>>pain
>>>some.
>> Thanks... I don't get sick very often, so it kind of pisses me off when I
>> am..
>> I've been at half speed or less for a week and really down for 2 days...
>> I ducked the last 3 or 4 bugs but this one caught me good... I hate not
>> being
>> able to work in the shop..grrrr..
>>
>
>Mega dose the vitamin C bro.
>
>Roy
She's got me on vitamins, antibiotics, decongestants, antihistamines, fresh
fruit.. hell, I'm not sure what else..


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You are wasting your time Nate. Miles knows everything about everything and
has family who lives everywhere and does everything. Funny how he described
Mexico as a third world nation and then says everyone there is living well
and the poverty level is slim, LOL.

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"Nathan W. Collier" <no.TakeThisOut@way.com> wrote in message
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> "miles" <nope.TakeThisOut@nopers.com> wrote in message
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>> Possibly yes. I do not know whom you are referring to. I have traveled
>> Mexico extensively, have relatives born and raised in Mexico and my folks
>> currently live in Mexico. So yes, your statement is wrong and Mexico's
>> IMSS office that tracks such figures also disagrees.
>
> what some website has to say is to me irrelevant. i base both my
> statement and belief on those who live there and work there. earlier i
> posted a link to my friend/employee oscar. he is one of my sources.
>
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Nathan W. Collier wrote:

> what some website has to say is to me irrelevant. i base both my statement
> and belief on those who live there and work there. earlier i posted a link
> to my friend/employee oscar. he is one of my sources.

IMSS is a Mexican Gov. office that reports economic conditions. They
are not 'some website'. As I said, I do have family there and know the
economy well. The average wage in Mexico is NOT $5/hr and not even
close. It is not a dirt poor country as so many Americans who have
never been there believe.
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TBone wrote:
> You are wasting your time Nate. Miles knows everything about everything and
> has family who lives everywhere and does everything. Funny how he described
> Mexico as a third world nation and then says everyone there is living well
> and the poverty level is slim, LOL.


3rd world does not mean dirt poor. It's more of a cultural and
sociological difference than an economic one. You crack me up TBone.
You and Nate will argue about a country you've never been to and attempt
to know all about it. Too funny.
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"miles" <nope.RemoveThis@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> what some website has to say is to me irrelevant. i base both my
>> statement and belief on those who live there and work there. earlier i
>> posted a link to my friend/employee oscar. he is one of my sources.
>
> IMSS is a Mexican Gov. office that reports economic conditions. They are
> not 'some website'. As I said, I do have family there and know the
> economy well. The average wage in Mexico is NOT $5/hr and not even close.
> It is not a dirt poor country as so many Americans who have never been
> there believe.


Actually Miles, he said $5 a DAY, not per hour. I will agree with you that
the Mexican economy has improved much in the past years but much like here,
most of the money goes to the few and the rest have to scrape to get by. If
conditions are as good as you say, there simply would not be the number of
people trying to get here from there.

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TBone wrote:

> Actually Miles, he said $5 a DAY, not per hour.

You're correct. My typo. But point still stands. Mexicans on average
are paid many times over $5/day.

>If
> conditions are as good as you say, there simply would not be the number of
> people trying to get here from there.

You have no comprehension of what part of the Mexican society is coming
here. None at all. It is NOT an overall mix of people. They are much
of the part that Mexico does not want and why the Mexican Gov.
encourages them to come to the USA. We get their problems that they do
not want.
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"miles" <nope DeleteThis @nopers.com> wrote in message
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> TBone wrote:
>> You are wasting your time Nate. Miles knows everything about everything
>> and has family who lives everywhere and does everything. Funny how he
>> described Mexico as a third world nation and then says everyone there is
>> living well and the poverty level is slim, LOL.
>
>
> 3rd world does not mean dirt poor.

Oh really??? Go look it up and post the definition.

> It's more of a cultural and sociological difference than an economic one.

How would you know, do you live there? the number of people giving up
everything to come here say's different.

> You crack me up TBone. You and Nate will argue about a country you've
> never been to and attempt to know all about it. Too funny.

I hate to burst your bubble Miles, you keep killing your own arguments.
First you say that money there goes further, then you say that just about
everything but housing cost the same as it does here. How exactly then does
money go further then???? You say that the Mexican worker makes the same
there as here and then say that companies there have significant savings in
operating costs including labor. How exactly does that work??? I could go
further but since all you will do is spin it, there is no point.

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TBone wrote:

> Oh really??? Go look it up and post the definition.

"Developing Nation". Has nothing to do with being poor and everything
to do with the style of social, political, and economic cultures.

> How would you know, do you live there?

Yes I have. Have you?
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"miles" <nope DeleteThis @nopers.com> wrote in message
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> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> in mexico where the typical worker makes $5 a day
>
> Why do so many Americans have a complete lack of knowledge of Mexico yet
> make statements like that? It is true that Mexico's minimum wage is about
> that but per the Mexican Social Security Institute the average is 4 to 5
> times as much. Plus their money goes much further than it does here.

So you are saying that the average Mexican is making 15 to 20 dollars a
day???

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TBone wrote:

> So you are saying that the average Mexican is making 15 to 20 dollars a
> day???

That is the average and not the median income. Housing costs about 90%
less than in the USA except in areas close to our borders. Theres also
considerable free housing available in many cities especially southern
Mexico.
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:01:36 -0700, miles <nope RemoveThis @nopers.com> wrote:

>Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> what some website has to say is to me irrelevant. i base both my statement
>> and belief on those who live there and work there. earlier i posted a link
>> to my friend/employee oscar. he is one of my sources.
>
>IMSS is a Mexican Gov. office that reports economic conditions. They
>are not 'some website'. As I said, I do have family there and know the
>economy well. The average wage in Mexico is NOT $5/hr and not even
>close. It is not a dirt poor country as so many Americans who have
>never been there believe.

$5 an hour would be pretty good money for a lot of jobs here, Miles...
The Min. wage is about $5 a DAY, but most folks, as in the States, make more
than that..

Most builders now are paying about $120 a week (5 1/2 days) for labor, up to
$200 if it's skilled labor like windows, doors, tile, etc..
I'd say the building trades and retailers are at the top of the food chain right
now..


mac

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