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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:17 pm
Post subject: injector service off car. worth it ?
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| Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
several companies out there who clean and measure before and after the
flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per injector.
This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it. Idle is a
little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out. no Check
engine lights.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:48 am
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"RT" <noyabusiness.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after the
> flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per injector.
> This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it. Idle is a
> little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out. no Check
> engine lights.
Before you pull injectors, try Chevron Techron fuel injector cleaner, Motor
Vac service, or BG fuel injector service. If you pull injectors, the
O-rings will also have to be replaced.
Rough idle and pinging could be from a dirty MAF sensor. Unplug and remove
the sensor, spray some brake cleaner inside the opening, let the brake
cleaner drip out, and air dry.
I would try all that stuff before pulling injectors.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:55 am
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On Jun 18, 2:59 am, Tegger <teg... RemoveThis @tegger.c0m> wrote:
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote innews:2dudnVqed5UHPMXVnZ2dnUVZ_tXinZ2d@comcast.com:
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> > "RT" <noyabusin... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:fe6h54dn1shil5kbecer7q0ehmc7blajh0@4ax.com...
> >> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
> >> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after
> >> the flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per
> >> injector. This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it.
> >> Idle is a little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out.
> >> no Check engine lights.
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> > Before you pull injectors, try Chevron Techron fuel injector cleaner,
> > Motor Vac service, or BG fuel injector service. If you pull
> > injectors, the O-rings will also have to be replaced.
>
> > Rough idle and pinging could be from a dirty MAF sensor. Unplug and
> > remove the sensor, spray some brake cleaner inside the opening, let
> > the brake cleaner drip out, and air dry.
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> > I would try all that stuff before pulling injectors.
>
> I agree. With today's gas having such a high concentration of detergents,
> injector fouling is rare.
>
> --
> Tegger
I must say, I was doing a lot of driving -- around 3000 a month. I
figured some 'injector' cleaner every other fill-up was a good idea.
No. Very bad idea. Be very careful with injector cleaner and don't
use it often. I ended up HAVING to have my injectors removed,
cleaned, and found one was cracked/leaking and replaced it. Now, I
stopped using injector cleaner and just fill up at brand name stations
and haven't had any issues since. >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:59 am
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in
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> "RT" <noyabusiness DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fe6h54dn1shil5kbecer7q0ehmc7blajh0@4ax.com...
>> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
>> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after
>> the flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per
>> injector. This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it.
>> Idle is a little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out.
>> no Check engine lights.
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> Before you pull injectors, try Chevron Techron fuel injector cleaner,
> Motor Vac service, or BG fuel injector service. If you pull
> injectors, the O-rings will also have to be replaced.
>
> Rough idle and pinging could be from a dirty MAF sensor. Unplug and
> remove the sensor, spray some brake cleaner inside the opening, let
> the brake cleaner drip out, and air dry.
>
> I would try all that stuff before pulling injectors.
I agree. With today's gas having such a high concentration of detergents,
injector fouling is rare.
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Tegger >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:54 pm
Post subject: Re: injector service off car. worth it ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:17:14 -0700, RT wrote:
> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after the
> flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per injector.
> This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it. Idle is a
> little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out. no Check
> engine lights.
Stop using off brand gas. Run a couple tanks of something good, and run
two tanks of Techron, as Ray suggested. >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:17 pm
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:55:23 -0700, mrsteveo wrote:
>> I agree. With today's gas having such a high concentration of
>> detergents, injector fouling is rare.
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>> Tegger
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> I must say, I was doing a lot of driving -- around 3000 a month. I
> figured some 'injector' cleaner every other fill-up was a good idea. No.
> Very bad idea. Be very careful with injector cleaner and don't use it
> often. I ended up HAVING to have my injectors removed, cleaned, and
> found one was cracked/leaking and replaced it. Now, I stopped using
> injector cleaner and just fill up at brand name stations and haven't had
> any issues since.
Some of the injector cleaners are a bit 'aggressive' and wind up
"cleaning" the coating off the injectors MUCH faster than gasoline would. >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:57 pm
Post subject: Re: injector service off car. worth it ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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RT wrote:
> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after the
> flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per injector.
> This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it. Idle is a
> little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out. no Check
> engine lights.
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Shell V-Power (premium) has a lot of detergents in it, much more
than the Top Tier threshold. Shell primo is Tribologist Terry
Dyson's favorite gas right now.
He likes it with ethanol in the premium, too. Like lotsa folks,
I'm not keen on 10 percent ethanol, though. >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:13 pm
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Ray O wrote:
> "Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1591c985-190e-4e5b-8615-783560a239b3@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > RT wrote:
> >> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
> >> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after the
> >> flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per injector.
> >> This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it. Idle is a
> >> little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out. no Check
> >> engine lights.
> > ========
> >
> > Shell V-Power (premium) has a lot of detergents in it, much more
> > than the Top Tier threshold. Shell primo is Tribologist Terry
> > Dyson's favorite gas right now.
> >
> > He likes it with ethanol in the premium, too. Like lotsa folks,
> > I'm not keen on 10 percent ethanol, though.
>
> I doubt if the best gas in the world will eliminate the condition that the
> OP is describing, and it is not necessary to use premium fuel in a Corolla.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
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Well, you mentioned the OP should try Chevron Techron
fuel injector cleaner. I was just noting that the
detergent additive in Shell V-Power is preferred by
Tribologist Terry Dyson more than the Techron that
comes in Chevron gasoline.
Once he gets his injector problem resolved, he can
opt for a brand name gasoline like Shell V-Power,
(regular grade or premium). >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:30 pm
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No. If your car is working properly and it gets Tier-1 gas you don't
need injector service off the car. Maybe a bottle of Techron Fuel
Injector Cleaner every 30K miles at the most.
www.toptiergas.com
On Jun 17, 10:17 pm, RT <noyabusin....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after the
> flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per injector.
> This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it. Idle is a
> little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out. no Check
> engine lights. >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:05 pm
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"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1591c985-190e-4e5b-8615-783560a239b3@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> RT wrote:
>> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
>> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after the
>> flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per injector.
>> This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it. Idle is a
>> little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out. no Check
>> engine lights.
> ========
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> Shell V-Power (premium) has a lot of detergents in it, much more
> than the Top Tier threshold. Shell primo is Tribologist Terry
> Dyson's favorite gas right now.
>
> He likes it with ethanol in the premium, too. Like lotsa folks,
> I'm not keen on 10 percent ethanol, though.
I doubt if the best gas in the world will eliminate the condition that the
OP is describing, and it is not necessary to use premium fuel in a Corolla.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply) >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:29 pm
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"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ray O wrote:
>> "Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1591c985-190e-4e5b-8615-783560a239b3@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> > RT wrote:
>> >> Has anyone ever had their injectors serviced off the car ? There are
>> >> several companies out there who clean and measure before and after the
>> >> flow of the injectors. Comes down to around 20 dollars per injector.
>> >> This is for a 1.6l corolla engine with 160K miles on it. Idle is a
>> >> little rough and there is slight pinging when it's hot out. no Check
>> >> engine lights.
>> > ========
>> >
>> > Shell V-Power (premium) has a lot of detergents in it, much more
>> > than the Top Tier threshold. Shell primo is Tribologist Terry
>> > Dyson's favorite gas right now.
>> >
>> > He likes it with ethanol in the premium, too. Like lotsa folks,
>> > I'm not keen on 10 percent ethanol, though.
>>
>> I doubt if the best gas in the world will eliminate the condition that
>> the
>> OP is describing, and it is not necessary to use premium fuel in a
>> Corolla.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
> =========
>
> Well, you mentioned the OP should try Chevron Techron
> fuel injector cleaner. I was just noting that the
> detergent additive in Shell V-Power is preferred by
> Tribologist Terry Dyson more than the Techron that
> comes in Chevron gasoline.
I also mentioned that a dirty MAF sensor is more likely to cure the
condition than cleaning the fuel injectors.
--
Ray O
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:49 am
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:57:59 -0700, Built_Well wrote:
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> Shell V-Power (premium) has a lot of detergents in it, much more
> than the Top Tier threshold.
Perhaps TOO many! I get horrible mileage with V-Power, and since I get it
in VT it's 'real' gas.
I get better mileage with 2nd tier E-10 Premium than I do with V-Power! >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:00 am
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Tegger wrote:
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> I think Terry Dyson is overrated and thinks he knows more than
> he actually does.
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[Chuckle] Well, I think Mr. Terry Dyson of Dyson Analysis is
a renowned tribologist with decades of experience who analyzes
UOAs on a daily basis. He can see, for example, the effects of
different brands of gasoline on engines that have
fuel dilution blow-by problems, piston ring problems, etc.
Finally, people don't pay him $60 per used oil analysis for
nothing, especially when you can get a used oil analysis from
Blackstone-Labs for ~$23. But North America is about
diversity, so you're welcome to your opinion  [Lol] >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:04 am
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Hachiroku wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:57:59 -0700, Built_Well wrote:
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> > Shell V-Power (premium) has a lot of detergents in it, much more
> > than the Top Tier threshold.
> ========
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> Perhaps TOO many! I get horrible mileage with V-Power, and since I get it
> in VT it's 'real' gas.
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> I get better mileage with 2nd tier E-10 Premium than I do with V-Power!
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Why don't you elaborate on this, Hachi. Give us some
concrete mileage numbers. Interesting >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:33 am
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HLS wrote:
> > Finally, people don't pay him $60 per used oil analysis for
> > nothing, especially when you can get a used oil analysis from
> > Blackstone-Labs for ~$23. But North America is about
> > diversity, so you're welcome to your opinion [Lol]
> ==============
> My unsolicited opinion is that used oil analysis is, for the most part,
> a waste of money.
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I have to disagree here. Huge fleets and sober, bottom line
minded trucking companies employ Used Oil Analysis on an
ongoing basis to protect their costly engine investments. >> Stay informed about: injector service off car. worth it ? |
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