import engine for a 50's ford

Yup. A daily drive. I'm in Canada. I don't really care about collector
value. I'm not going to sell it. Besides, to me, putting any engine other
than the original destroys the collector value anyhow.

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> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:25:20 GMT, "Jeremy" <nospam.DeleteThis@please.com> wrote:
>
>>I at the point were I could either do up the flathead in my 51 merc pickup
>>or swap a new model engine. If I go with a new engine I think I'll go
>>with
>>an import like a toyota. I know I know, blasphemy. But I think they are
>>generally more effecient and last longer. Anyone know of a suitable
>>import
>>that would do well in a truck of this weight?
>
> What is your plan for this truck? I'm going to guess you're thinking
> of making it a daily driver, as putting a foreign engine in it will
> destroy its collector value.
>
> Are you in the USA or Canada? Our suggestions will need to take this
> into account. If you're in the middle of the Sahara, you won't have a
> parts store on every corner.
>
> Good luck!
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On Jun 14, 8:58 pm, "Jeremy" <nos....TakeThisOut@please.com> wrote:
> Yup. A daily drive. I'm in Canada. I don't really care about collector
> value. I'm not going to sell it. Besides, to me, putting any engine other
> than the original destroys the collector value anyhow.

On Jun 14, 8:58 pm, "Jeremy" <nos....TakeThisOut@please.com> wrote:
> Yup. A daily drive. I'm in Canada. I don't really care about collector
> value. I'm not going to sell it. Besides, to me, putting any engine other
> than the original destroys the collector value anyhow.


It would have hot rod value if you used any Ford V8 or a small block
Chevy.

If you use a Jap engine you will have a lot more work and people will
make fun of you. There isn't a RWD Jap engine and trans I know of that
you can get reasonably that will fit except for some four cylinders.
RWD Lexises have great V8s but they are all electronic and you will be
loking at a lot of wiring. The economical sources for Jap engines are
what is called JDM, Japanese Domestic Market, imports. You will want a
complete engine and trans with all accessories. That will be expensive
because usually they take that all off to fit more in the shipping
can. You could also buy a "halfcut", which is a whole car sawed in
half.

Most Japanese engines in this class are inline sixes. The Supra/
Cressida and Maxima are pretty good ones.

All the little items like filters and stuff will cost more. You will
have to either adapt a Delcotron or use the Japanese alternator, which
are much more expensive rebuilt. A Ford or C***y will be cheaper in
the long run. But if you have this obsession don't let that stop you.
Hell, why not a Mercedes diesel?
 >> Stay informed about: import engine for a 50's ford 

In article <1185647716.341737.304930 RemoveThis @i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
RapidRonnie <rapidronnie RemoveThis @cbgb.net> wrote:

> On Jun 14, 8:58 pm, "Jeremy" <nos... RemoveThis @please.com> wrote:
> > Yup. A daily drive. I'm in Canada. I don't really care about collector
> > value. I'm not going to sell it. Besides, to me, putting any engine other
> > than the original destroys the collector value anyhow.
>
> On Jun 14, 8:58 pm, "Jeremy" <nos... RemoveThis @please.com> wrote:
> > Yup. A daily drive. I'm in Canada. I don't really care about collector
> > value. I'm not going to sell it. Besides, to me, putting any engine other
> > than the original destroys the collector value anyhow.
>
>
> It would have hot rod value if you used any Ford V8 or a small block
> Chevy.

> But if you have this obsession don't let that stop you.
> Hell, why not a Mercedes diesel?

Friend of mine in UK runs a MB diesel 'Sprinter'. It does 110MPH... and
still feels stable..
 >> Stay informed about: import engine for a 50's ford 

As far as imports go, if I did that I was thinkinf of an engine out of
something like a tacoma, or 4runner. They're about as close a match as far
as vehicle size that I could think of when it comes to imports. But as you
say, it'll be a lot of work.

If I went domestic I'd probly just put in a ford 302. I don't care about
obscene power. Does anyone know if the engine mount configuration changed
throughout the years? Someone told me that the old flatheads have the same
engine mount geometry as newer fords. Does that sound right?


"RapidRonnie" <rapidronnie DeleteThis @cbgb.net> wrote in message
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> On Jun 14, 8:58 pm, "Jeremy" <nos... DeleteThis @please.com> wrote:
>> Yup. A daily drive. I'm in Canada. I don't really care about collector
>> value. I'm not going to sell it. Besides, to me, putting any engine
>> other
>> than the original destroys the collector value anyhow.
>
> On Jun 14, 8:58 pm, "Jeremy" <nos... DeleteThis @please.com> wrote:
>> Yup. A daily drive. I'm in Canada. I don't really care about collector
>> value. I'm not going to sell it. Besides, to me, putting any engine
>> other
>> than the original destroys the collector value anyhow.
>
>
> It would have hot rod value if you used any Ford V8 or a small block
> Chevy.
>
> If you use a Jap engine you will have a lot more work and people will
> make fun of you. There isn't a RWD Jap engine and trans I know of that
> you can get reasonably that will fit except for some four cylinders.
> RWD Lexises have great V8s but they are all electronic and you will be
> loking at a lot of wiring. The economical sources for Jap engines are
> what is called JDM, Japanese Domestic Market, imports. You will want a
> complete engine and trans with all accessories. That will be expensive
> because usually they take that all off to fit more in the shipping
> can. You could also buy a "halfcut", which is a whole car sawed in
> half.
>
> Most Japanese engines in this class are inline sixes. The Supra/
> Cressida and Maxima are pretty good ones.
>
> All the little items like filters and stuff will cost more. You will
> have to either adapt a Delcotron or use the Japanese alternator, which
> are much more expensive rebuilt. A Ford or C***y will be cheaper in
> the long run. But if you have this obsession don't let that stop you.
> Hell, why not a Mercedes diesel?
>
 >> Stay informed about: import engine for a 50's ford 

On Jul 29, 11:50 pm, "Jeremy" <nos....DeleteThis@please.com> wrote:
> As far as imports go, if I did that I was thinkinf of an engine out of
> something like a tacoma, or 4runner. They're about as close a match as far
> as vehicle size that I could think of when it comes to imports. But as you
> say, it'll be a lot of work.
>
> If I went domestic I'd probly just put in a ford 302. I don't care about
> obscene power. Does anyone know if the engine mount configuration changed
> throughout the years? Someone told me that the old flatheads have the same
> engine mount geometry as newer fords. Does that sound right?

If you use a already-mated engine and trans half the job is done. If
you use a carbed engine with conventional ignition the wiring is easy
too. All you need to do is fab mounts, get a driveshaft made, and make
the radiator hoses fit.

Toy engines and manual trans of the carb era are mostly bulletproof.

EFI is more work and money but....they start and run so much better.

On diesels, the Mercedes OM616/617 are the cheapest and best engines
out there. Isuzu, Mits and Nissan good too. On the Benz, you will find
the MBZ trans not easy because of the rubber-donut output. The MBZ
engines have a huge front sump as well. The oil pump hangs down into
the pan, past the rails, and is chain driven.
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I own a 52 ford pickup and I am currently looking into using a Cummins
diesel out of a dodge truck. Its an inline 6 cycl. so I think it will fit
nicely and with the six speed it should get very good MPG's.
"Jeremy" <nospam.DeleteThis@please.com> wrote in message
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>I at the point were I could either do up the flathead in my 51 merc pickup
>or swap a new model engine. If I go with a new engine I think I'll go with
>an import like a toyota. I know I know, blasphemy. But I think they are
>generally more effecient and last longer. Anyone know of a suitable
>import that would do well in a truck of this weight?
 >> Stay informed about: import engine for a 50's ford 

I'm interested in knowing how your project goes!
There are some forums where you should pot pics and info about your project.
I'm sure people would love to see it progress.


"See Ya" <test> wrote in message
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>I own a 52 ford pickup and I am currently looking into using a Cummins
>diesel out of a dodge truck. Its an inline 6 cycl. so I think it will fit
>nicely and with the six speed it should get very good MPG's.
> "Jeremy" <nospam RemoveThis @please.com> wrote in message
> news:4dLbi.17608$NV3.7466@pd7urf2no...
>>I at the point were I could either do up the flathead in my 51 merc pickup
>>or swap a new model engine. If I go with a new engine I think I'll go
>>with an import like a toyota. I know I know, blasphemy. But I think they
>>are generally more effecient and last longer. Anyone know of a suitable
>>import that would do well in a truck of this weight?
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: import engine for a 50's ford