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Jeff DeWitt

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Since: Feb 12, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:55 am
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I was on my way to work this morning, driving down I-40, 70 Mph, AC on,
just cruising along when the engine just quit without warning. No
coughs, no sputters, just stopped.

Got the car safely pulled off of the highway, and of course it wouldn't
restart, not a sputter. I checked the carburetor and two strong streams
of fuel squirted out when the throttle was worked. Next I checked the
spark, nice fat spark when the engine first turned, no sparks after that
(oh oh...)

At that point I called work and let them know I was going to be late,
then called a wrecker. Half hour later the Lark was being loaded on a
rollback and we were on our way back home.

First thing I did was pop the distributor cap and crank the engine, the
rotor didn't turn. The I disconnected the fuel line from the carb and
cranked the engine again, no fuel.

I'm not the worlds greatest mechanic but it seems like the timing gear
must have given up the ghost, so I know what I'm going to be doing this
weekend (in 100 deg. temps).

Couple of questions, if it is in fact the timing gear (the other thought
was a broken camshaft, but then it seems like the fuel pump would still
be working) what makes these things break like that, with no warning at
all? Of course it's 47 years old and designed for about 10 but still!
It isn't so much that it failed that bothers me, its the total lack of
any warning. IS there any warning these things give before they fail
that I just didn't notice?

I've heard of this happening with Studes but it's pretty rare isn't it?

Oh, and since I left my other water pump pulleys at Ray's I had to
borrow the one of the Lark to make the truck drivable again, and
wouldn't you know, it was a bit smaller so the belt didn't work (to
long). Well I got creative with two generator brackets and made that
work....

Jeff DeWitt

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64daytonaht

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:55 pm
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Fiber gear doesn't last forever. Another good reason to install an aluminum
timing gear.

Bo

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Robert Black

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:55 pm
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Yes Jeff,since you have to go in there,put in an alunimum one .
"64daytonaht" <markhamb DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Fiber gear doesn't last forever. Another good reason to install an
> aluminum timing gear.
>
> Bo
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Studeman

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:55 pm
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Jeff...

I'd pull the distributor first.. The shear-pin may have given way... and
not the Cam Gear. If so- just switch distributors.
I have a good used original Aluminum timing gear you can purchase- as
I'm always installing the new ones when I rebuild an engine. I don't see
anything wrong with this one..
I also have the neoprene timing cover seal in-stock. I think I even have
a cover already converted.
I will be in Raleigh August 27th for a pool tournament... perhaps I
could come out there Friday night... and get ya started.. spend the
night- and finish after the tourney...

Let me know...
Ray

Jeff DeWitt wrote:

> I was on my way to work this morning, driving down I-40, 70 Mph, AC on,
> just cruising along when the engine just quit without warning. No
> coughs, no sputters, just stopped.
>
> Got the car safely pulled off of the highway, and of course it wouldn't
> restart, not a sputter. I checked the carburetor and two strong streams
> of fuel squirted out when the throttle was worked. Next I checked the
> spark, nice fat spark when the engine first turned, no sparks after that
> (oh oh...)
>
> At that point I called work and let them know I was going to be late,
> then called a wrecker. Half hour later the Lark was being loaded on a
> rollback and we were on our way back home.
>
> First thing I did was pop the distributor cap and crank the engine, the
> rotor didn't turn. The I disconnected the fuel line from the carb and
> cranked the engine again, no fuel.
>
> I'm not the worlds greatest mechanic but it seems like the timing gear
> must have given up the ghost, so I know what I'm going to be doing this
> weekend (in 100 deg. temps).
>
> Couple of questions, if it is in fact the timing gear (the other thought
> was a broken camshaft, but then it seems like the fuel pump would still
> be working) what makes these things break like that, with no warning at
> all? Of course it's 47 years old and designed for about 10 but still!
> It isn't so much that it failed that bothers me, its the total lack of
> any warning. IS there any warning these things give before they fail
> that I just didn't notice?
>
> I've heard of this happening with Studes but it's pretty rare isn't it?
>
> Oh, and since I left my other water pump pulleys at Ray's I had to
> borrow the one of the Lark to make the truck drivable again, and
> wouldn't you know, it was a bit smaller so the belt didn't work (to
> long). Well I got creative with two generator brackets and made that
> work....
>
> Jeff DeWitt
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JeffDeWitt

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:49 pm
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Ray, how much do you want for the gear and is there any chance I could
come pick it up tomorrow? I'd really like to get this car fixed ASAP,
the truck gets horrible mileage with the OD busted as as you know gas
is a bit high lately!

I'll take a look but I'm really skeptical about it being the shear pin
as I disconected the fuel line, cranked the engine and nothing came
out. If it was the shear pin than I would think the fuel pump would
still have been pumping.

Jeff
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transtar60

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:55 pm
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Pull the distributor and check the shear pin (split pin) holding the
gear on . Had the same thing happen to my '62 Champ .

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> I was on my way to work this morning, driving down I-40, 70 Mph, AC on,
> just cruising along when the engine just quit without warning. No
> coughs, no sputters, just stopped.
>
> Got the car safely pulled off of the highway, and of course it wouldn't
> restart, not a sputter. I checked the carburetor and two strong streams
> of fuel squirted out when the throttle was worked. Next I checked the
> spark, nice fat spark when the engine first turned, no sparks after that
> (oh oh...)
>
> At that point I called work and let them know I was going to be late,
> then called a wrecker. Half hour later the Lark was being loaded on a
> rollback and we were on our way back home.
>
> First thing I did was pop the distributor cap and crank the engine, the
> rotor didn't turn. The I disconnected the fuel line from the carb and
> cranked the engine again, no fuel.
>
> I'm not the worlds greatest mechanic but it seems like the timing gear
> must have given up the ghost, so I know what I'm going to be doing this
> weekend (in 100 deg. temps).
>
> Couple of questions, if it is in fact the timing gear (the other thought
> was a broken camshaft, but then it seems like the fuel pump would still
> be working) what makes these things break like that, with no warning at
> all? Of course it's 47 years old and designed for about 10 but still!
> It isn't so much that it failed that bothers me, its the total lack of
> any warning. IS there any warning these things give before they fail
> that I just didn't notice?
>
> I've heard of this happening with Studes but it's pretty rare isn't it?
>
> Oh, and since I left my other water pump pulleys at Ray's I had to
> borrow the one of the Lark to make the truck drivable again, and
> wouldn't you know, it was a bit smaller so the belt didn't work (to
> long). Well I got creative with two generator brackets and made that
> work....
>
> Jeff DeWitt
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Grumpy AuContraire

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:55 pm
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JeffDeWitt wrote:
>
> Ray, how much do you want for the gear and is there any chance I could
> come pick it up tomorrow? I'd really like to get this car fixed ASAP,
> the truck gets horrible mileage with the OD busted as as you know gas
> is a bit high lately!
>
> I'll take a look but I'm really skeptical about it being the shear pin
> as I disconected the fuel line, cranked the engine and nothing came
> out. If it was the shear pin than I would think the fuel pump would
> still have been pumping.
>
> Jeff



Sounds like what happened with my ol' 1985 F*rd... Cam shaft broke
right after the two front cylinders. Distributor was in the front of
that one and drove me nutz for about three weeks...

JT
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Jeff DeWitt

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:55 am
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That would be annoying, but on a Stude with the fuel pump on the front
and the distributor on the rear if BOTH are not working than it doesn't
really sound like the camshaft, unless the shaft was broken right at the
snout.

Jeff DeWitt

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
> JeffDeWitt wrote:
>
>>Ray, how much do you want for the gear and is there any chance I could
>>come pick it up tomorrow? I'd really like to get this car fixed ASAP,
>>the truck gets horrible mileage with the OD busted as as you know gas
>>is a bit high lately!
>>
>>I'll take a look but I'm really skeptical about it being the shear pin
>>as I disconected the fuel line, cranked the engine and nothing came
>>out. If it was the shear pin than I would think the fuel pump would
>>still have been pumping.
>>
>>Jeff
>
>
>
>
> Sounds like what happened with my ol' 1985 F*rd... Cam shaft broke
> right after the two front cylinders. Distributor was in the front of
> that one and drove me nutz for about three weeks...
>
> JT
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