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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:16 pm
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I've talked to the previous owner & found out the 37 Stude coupe I bought
off eBay from a flipper has a 1949 245-6 installed in it & is mated to the
stock 37 3 speed manual.. Sure explains the torque .
The car was originally owned by a farmer in Nebraska & after throwing a rod
it was parked & sat under a tree for years.
The vehicle was then saved by the former SDC member & was driven to Estes
Park Intl. meet some years back & was shown. Any pics of that? Nope.
After being bought by the owner I talked to - the coupe was repainted in the
early 80's, and, may have some bondo on the right rear fender. He can't
remember for sure. The interior was also done at that time.
Bottom line is that my coupe has had its body worked on before & the engine
is not stock. The interior is not high quality either. No bitching, just
saying it like I see it & I paid too much @ $20,000. The flipper bought the
37 for $15,000 & that was a good price in my book. Now that I have figured
out what I have, & about how buried I am, I am in the process of figuring
out what I am going to do. Kind of exciting really - that is to be preparing
to go to the next step. All the while I spend my time scraping the
undercoating out of the trunk. About 2 more hours & I should be done with
that.
Do I use glass & POR 15 on the trunk, floor, & body rust because it is so
minor or do I go whole hog & start cutting and welding? Do I remove the old
fuel tank patch & do a proper job on it & treat the tank while it is removed
for the trunk repairs? Do I take the fenders off? Do I strip it & paint it?
Off with the body? Hop up the 6? What about that 63 full-flow 259?
Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question? How exciting
...........................
mmmm - what to do??????? I was really wanting to keep her stock & now it
seems that is not on the table.
The 245-6 had babbet bearings upgraded to plain bushings & the engine is
supposed to have the latest oiling updates. I wasn't told what that means &
would like to know more about the potential of this 49 245-6. Can the 245-6
be souped up as they used to say?  How would I go about pumping up the
six cyl & what could I expect in output?
Thanks in advance,
Spencer
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:16 pm
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> Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question?
I also bought a car from ebay that I am now "re-doing", i guess i'm for
doing the right way. First I have the satisfaction of knowing that it
is done correct and without short cuts. Secondly nothing is forever,
I'll sell the car some day and I can be honest as to what is under ther
"clothes". document everything you do with pictures.
I bought and restored a 1970 Corvette LT! in 1986, did it right and it
looks as good as the day it was completed today..............
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:40 pm
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If your happy with the performance Id leave the big six.Its a proper
replacement for the original.
Once you start changing to V-8 a where do you stop?
Id just remove any really rotten metal in the body.
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> > Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question?
>
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> I also bought a car from ebay that I am now "re-doing", i guess i'm for
> doing the right way. First I have the satisfaction of knowing that it
> is done correct and without short cuts. Secondly nothing is forever,
> I'll sell the car some day and I can be honest as to what is under ther
> "clothes". document everything you do with pictures.
>
> I bought and restored a 1970 Corvette LT! in 1986, did it right and it
> looks as good as the day it was completed today..............
> My vote do it right and enjoy it.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:40 pm
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It's tough to paint a '37 properly all together.
They come apart easily, but painting all 40 or so pieces is a pita.
Talk to Cathcart's Studebaker in Plainfield, CT about six cylinder stuff.
He's in TW every month.
I would recommend taking out the gas tank and taking it to a good radiator
shop for repair.
I know a lot of people fitz around with their own tanks, but I don't find it
worth the hassle.
A radiator shop can fix it right and clean it and you get a better product
back, usually with a guarantee.
Sticking in a Stude V8 will work, but you'd best spend your penny's on the
brakes first.
I think a hot six would be cool....and it's already there!
Jeff
"Spencer Hager Jr." wrote...
> I've talked to the previous owner & found out the 37 Stude coupe I bought
> off eBay from a flipper has a 1949 245-6 installed in it & is mated to the
> stock 37 3 speed manual.. Sure explains the torque .
>
> The car was originally owned by a farmer in Nebraska & after throwing a
> rod it was parked & sat under a tree for years.
>
> The vehicle was then saved by the former SDC member & was driven to Estes
> Park Intl. meet some years back & was shown. Any pics of that? Nope.
>
> After being bought by the owner I talked to - the coupe was repainted in
> the early 80's, and, may have some bondo on the right rear fender. He
> can't remember for sure. The interior was also done at that time.
>
> Bottom line is that my coupe has had its body worked on before & the
> engine is not stock. The interior is not high quality either. No bitching,
> just saying it like I see it & I paid too much @ $20,000. The flipper
> bought the 37 for $15,000 & that was a good price in my book. Now that I
> have figured out what I have, & about how buried I am, I am in the process
> of figuring out what I am going to do. Kind of exciting really - that is
> to be preparing to go to the next step. All the while I spend my time
> scraping the undercoating out of the trunk. About 2 more hours & I should
> be done with that.
>
> Do I use glass & POR 15 on the trunk, floor, & body rust because it is so
> minor or do I go whole hog & start cutting and welding? Do I remove the
> old fuel tank patch & do a proper job on it & treat the tank while it is
> removed for the trunk repairs? Do I take the fenders off? Do I strip it &
> paint it? Off with the body? Hop up the 6? What about that 63 full-flow
> 259?
>
> Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question? How exciting
> ..........................
>
> mmmm - what to do??????? I was really wanting to keep her stock & now it
> seems that is not on the table.
>
> The 245-6 had babbet bearings upgraded to plain bushings & the engine is
> supposed to have the latest oiling updates. I wasn't told what that means
> & would like to know more about the potential of this 49 245-6. Can the
> 245-6 be souped up as they used to say? How would I go about pumping
> up the six cyl & what could I expect in output?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Spencer
> Nothing like scattering around a bit on a post. huh?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:20 pm
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Spencer, you're doing a Beautiful T'ing there, even thinking about the Right
Thing To Do after getting more-or-less burned. I'm all for taking that Big
6 as far as it will go with period-appropriate mods ala Cathcarts. I've
heard one done up that way, and they really rap. You'll be making converts
at the stoplight--like the guy who shocked the Porschsters cruising up
Palomar Observatory road with a 32 President.
I have what I hope is the true-blue SDC attitude on body restoration--if it
affects strength or handling, go all the way and even cheat modern if you
can; on "wear items" like rot in the trunk floor, just fix it. If you go
museum-stock, you'll be fixing it again soon if you use the car. Don't do
scrap metal and pop-rivets, but one notch up from that is nothing to be
ashamed of, as long as it is structurally sound.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:40 pm
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If that engine is a 49 big six, it had bearing inserts all ready. You might
check the numbers on the engine to see if it is actually a 49 block.
In any event, a very good engine. You can hop it up a little, but then you
start losing economy? Shaved head, rejet carberator (slightly larger bore).
You didn't say if the cylinders had been bored, or anything when it
supposedly got bearing inserts? I don't think Bill is doing much with the
big six? I'd be interested to know if he is finally.
You also didn't say whether the 3 speed manual was straight 3 speed, or OD?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:06 pm
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OOooooooooooooooh doggy & yehahhhhhhhhhhh. I like the looks of that six with
the multi-carbs on the Cathcart's website ..........
Drooling over all the dual exhaust & other shiny bits on that Big Red Six on
their homepage ............
Thanks Jeff - I know what I will be dreaming about tonight.
Spencer
"Jeff Rice" <DEEPNHOCKnospahm.RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> It's tough to paint a '37 properly all together.
> They come apart easily, but painting all 40 or so pieces is a pita.
> Talk to Cathcart's Studebaker in Plainfield, CT about six cylinder stuff.
> He's in TW every month.
> I would recommend taking out the gas tank and taking it to a good radiator
> shop for repair.
> I know a lot of people fitz around with their own tanks, but I don't find
it
> worth the hassle.
> A radiator shop can fix it right and clean it and you get a better product
> back, usually with a guarantee.
> Sticking in a Stude V8 will work, but you'd best spend your penny's on the
> brakes first.
> I think a hot six would be cool....and it's already there!
> Jeff
>
>
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>
> "Spencer Hager Jr." wrote...
> > I've talked to the previous owner & found out the 37 Stude coupe I
bought
> > off eBay from a flipper has a 1949 245-6 installed in it & is mated to
the
> > stock 37 3 speed manual.. Sure explains the torque .
> >
> > The car was originally owned by a farmer in Nebraska & after throwing a
> > rod it was parked & sat under a tree for years.
> >
> > The vehicle was then saved by the former SDC member & was driven to
Estes
> > Park Intl. meet some years back & was shown. Any pics of that? Nope.
> >
> > After being bought by the owner I talked to - the coupe was repainted in
> > the early 80's, and, may have some bondo on the right rear fender. He
> > can't remember for sure. The interior was also done at that time.
> >
> > Bottom line is that my coupe has had its body worked on before & the
> > engine is not stock. The interior is not high quality either. No
bitching,
> > just saying it like I see it & I paid too much @ $20,000. The flipper
> > bought the 37 for $15,000 & that was a good price in my book. Now that I
> > have figured out what I have, & about how buried I am, I am in the
process
> > of figuring out what I am going to do. Kind of exciting really - that is
> > to be preparing to go to the next step. All the while I spend my time
> > scraping the undercoating out of the trunk. About 2 more hours & I
should
> > be done with that.
> >
> > Do I use glass & POR 15 on the trunk, floor, & body rust because it is
so
> > minor or do I go whole hog & start cutting and welding? Do I remove the
> > old fuel tank patch & do a proper job on it & treat the tank while it is
> > removed for the trunk repairs? Do I take the fenders off? Do I strip it
&
> > paint it? Off with the body? Hop up the 6? What about that 63 full-flow
> > 259?
> >
> > Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question? How exciting
> > ..........................
> >
> > mmmm - what to do??????? I was really wanting to keep her stock & now it
> > seems that is not on the table.
> >
> > The 245-6 had babbet bearings upgraded to plain bushings & the engine is
> > supposed to have the latest oiling updates. I wasn't told what that
means
> > & would like to know more about the potential of this 49 245-6. Can the
> > 245-6 be souped up as they used to say? How would I go about
pumping
> > up the six cyl & what could I expect in output?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Spencer
> > Nothing like scattering around a bit on a post. huh?
> >
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:22 pm
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The 3 speed is a straight 3 speed & I wasn't told much about the internals
of the engine as far as bore is concerned. The story was moving around a
little by the time we got to the engine.
The man did say that the engine was a 1949 245-6 & I'm not sure if he said
he upgraded to plain bearings or that it was the improved version of the six
that came with plain bearings but my notes say 1949 for sure. Also he said
something about cross drilling the block as if it was some kind of oil mod
for the six. Know anything of what he may have been talking about? The
engine does run very well & doesn't burn any oil - revs very freely.
I'm pretty happy with the power - could be a little snappier but carb &
ignition tweaking could get me a bunch of improvement in the response. I'm
not looking to go fast but the offy stuff looks great & I have always been a
sucker for the cackling of a hopped up six.
This is going to get interesting - I can see that.
Where is a good place for me to post pics?
"64daytonaht" <markhamb.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> If that engine is a 49 big six, it had bearing inserts all ready. You
might
> check the numbers on the engine to see if it is actually a 49 block.
>
> In any event, a very good engine. You can hop it up a little, but then
you
> start losing economy? Shaved head, rejet carberator (slightly larger
bore).
> You didn't say if the cylinders had been bored, or anything when it
> supposedly got bearing inserts? I don't think Bill is doing much with the
> big six? I'd be interested to know if he is finally.
>
> You also didn't say whether the 3 speed manual was straight 3 speed, or
OD?
>
> Bo
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:30 pm
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There is some old time speed equipment still out there for the "Big 6"
engine. These type of parts are scarce though, and as far as I know, nothing
new is currently being made. Here are a couple of pics of my Weiand aluminum
dual carb intake manifold, high compression aluminum head, and dual exhaust
set up. Bill Cathcart split the exhaust manifold for me, and I had it Jet
Hot coated. Bill specializes in the "little six" Champion engine, but he may
have picked something up since I talked to him last.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.highspeedmotors.com/P22.JPG" target="_blank">http://www.highspeedmotors.com/P22.JPG</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.highspeedmotors.com/manifold2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.highspeedmotors.com/manifold2.jpg</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.highspeedmotors.com/manifold1.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.highspeedmotors.com/manifold1.jpg</a>
My suggestion is to enjoy the car as is. Keep the engine in, that it has.
The swap that it has in it, is more common than most people admit. It takes
an expert to notice the slight difference in the outside of the block.
Spruce and "hop" it up, as you can, when you can acquire what you need.
--
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"Spencer Hager Jr." <zonzulu.DeleteThis@madisontelco.com> wrote in message
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> I've talked to the previous owner & found out the 37 Stude coupe I bought
> off eBay from a flipper has a 1949 245-6 installed in it & is mated to the
> stock 37 3 speed manual.. Sure explains the torque .
>
> The car was originally owned by a farmer in Nebraska & after throwing a
rod
> it was parked & sat under a tree for years.
>
> The vehicle was then saved by the former SDC member & was driven to Estes
> Park Intl. meet some years back & was shown. Any pics of that? Nope.
>
> After being bought by the owner I talked to - the coupe was repainted in
the
> early 80's, and, may have some bondo on the right rear fender. He can't
> remember for sure. The interior was also done at that time.
>
> Bottom line is that my coupe has had its body worked on before & the
engine
> is not stock. The interior is not high quality either. No bitching, just
> saying it like I see it & I paid too much @ $20,000. The flipper bought
the
> 37 for $15,000 & that was a good price in my book. Now that I have figured
> out what I have, & about how buried I am, I am in the process of figuring
> out what I am going to do. Kind of exciting really - that is to be
preparing
> to go to the next step. All the while I spend my time scraping the
> undercoating out of the trunk. About 2 more hours & I should be done with
> that.
>
> Do I use glass & POR 15 on the trunk, floor, & body rust because it is so
> minor or do I go whole hog & start cutting and welding? Do I remove the
old
> fuel tank patch & do a proper job on it & treat the tank while it is
removed
> for the trunk repairs? Do I take the fenders off? Do I strip it & paint
it?
> Off with the body? Hop up the 6? What about that 63 full-flow 259?
>
> Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question? How exciting
> ..........................
>
> mmmm - what to do??????? I was really wanting to keep her stock & now it
> seems that is not on the table.
>
> The 245-6 had babbet bearings upgraded to plain bushings & the engine is
> supposed to have the latest oiling updates. I wasn't told what that means
&
> would like to know more about the potential of this 49 245-6. Can the
245-6
> be souped up as they used to say? How would I go about pumping up the
> six cyl & what could I expect in output?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Spencer
> Nothing like scattering around a bit on a post. huh?
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:40 pm
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I tried E-Mail Bill (from the link on his web site) about working on the
245.6 6 Cyl. in my Grandad's 3R6 (need to start saying MY 3R6) and the
mail bounced.
Any left coast 245.6 6 Cyl. engine rebuilders?
64daytonaht wrote:
> If that engine is a 49 big six, it had bearing inserts all ready. You might
> check the numbers on the engine to see if it is actually a 49 block.
>
> In any event, a very good engine. You can hop it up a little, but then you
> start losing economy? Shaved head, rejet carberator (slightly larger bore).
> You didn't say if the cylinders had been bored, or anything when it
> supposedly got bearing inserts? I don't think Bill is doing much with the
> big six? I'd be interested to know if he is finally.
>
> You also didn't say whether the 3 speed manual was straight 3 speed, or OD?
>
> Bo
>
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:32 pm
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Spencer,
You can't use the Champion stuff on the "Big Six". It is a whole different
engine.
--
George Rohrbach
"Spencer Hager" <zonzulu RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> OOooooooooooooooh doggy & yehahhhhhhhhhhh. I like the looks of that six
with
> the multi-carbs on the Cathcart's website ..........
>
> Drooling over all the dual exhaust & other shiny bits on that Big Red Six
on
> their homepage ............
>
> Thanks Jeff - I know what I will be dreaming about tonight.
>
> Spencer
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff Rice" <DEEPNHOCKnospahm RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:qhnyd.21524$uM5.15438@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > It's tough to paint a '37 properly all together.
> > They come apart easily, but painting all 40 or so pieces is a pita.
> > Talk to Cathcart's Studebaker in Plainfield, CT about six cylinder
stuff.
> > He's in TW every month.
> > I would recommend taking out the gas tank and taking it to a good
radiator
> > shop for repair.
> > I know a lot of people fitz around with their own tanks, but I don't
find
> it
> > worth the hassle.
> > A radiator shop can fix it right and clean it and you get a better
product
> > back, usually with a guarantee.
> > Sticking in a Stude V8 will work, but you'd best spend your penny's on
the
> > brakes first.
> > I think a hot six would be cool....and it's already there!
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Spencer Hager Jr." wrote...
> > > I've talked to the previous owner & found out the 37 Stude coupe I
> bought
> > > off eBay from a flipper has a 1949 245-6 installed in it & is mated to
> the
> > > stock 37 3 speed manual.. Sure explains the torque .
> > >
> > > The car was originally owned by a farmer in Nebraska & after throwing
a
> > > rod it was parked & sat under a tree for years.
> > >
> > > The vehicle was then saved by the former SDC member & was driven to
> Estes
> > > Park Intl. meet some years back & was shown. Any pics of that? Nope.
> > >
> > > After being bought by the owner I talked to - the coupe was repainted
in
> > > the early 80's, and, may have some bondo on the right rear fender. He
> > > can't remember for sure. The interior was also done at that time.
> > >
> > > Bottom line is that my coupe has had its body worked on before & the
> > > engine is not stock. The interior is not high quality either. No
> bitching,
> > > just saying it like I see it & I paid too much @ $20,000. The flipper
> > > bought the 37 for $15,000 & that was a good price in my book. Now that
I
> > > have figured out what I have, & about how buried I am, I am in the
> process
> > > of figuring out what I am going to do. Kind of exciting really - that
is
> > > to be preparing to go to the next step. All the while I spend my time
> > > scraping the undercoating out of the trunk. About 2 more hours & I
> should
> > > be done with that.
> > >
> > > Do I use glass & POR 15 on the trunk, floor, & body rust because it is
> so
> > > minor or do I go whole hog & start cutting and welding? Do I remove
the
> > > old fuel tank patch & do a proper job on it & treat the tank while it
is
> > > removed for the trunk repairs? Do I take the fenders off? Do I strip
it
> &
> > > paint it? Off with the body? Hop up the 6? What about that 63
full-flow
> > > 259?
> > >
> > > Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question? How exciting
> > > ..........................
> > >
> > > mmmm - what to do??????? I was really wanting to keep her stock & now
it
> > > seems that is not on the table.
> > >
> > > The 245-6 had babbet bearings upgraded to plain bushings & the engine
is
> > > supposed to have the latest oiling updates. I wasn't told what that
> means
> > > & would like to know more about the potential of this 49 245-6. Can
the
> > > 245-6 be souped up as they used to say? How would I go about
> pumping
> > > up the six cyl & what could I expect in output?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Spencer
> > > Nothing like scattering around a bit on a post. huh?
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Thanks George,
Yes, I understand the 245 is the Commander six.
"George Rohrbach" <georgr.DeleteThis@ptd.net> wrote in message
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> Spencer,
> You can't use the Champion stuff on the "Big Six". It is a whole
different
> engine.
>
> --
> George Rohrbach
>
>
>
> "Spencer Hager" <zonzulu.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:32ursnF3ohcl3U1@individual.net...
> > OOooooooooooooooh doggy & yehahhhhhhhhhhh. I like the looks of that six
> with
> > the multi-carbs on the Cathcart's website ..........
> >
> > Drooling over all the dual exhaust & other shiny bits on that Big Red
Six
> on
> > their homepage ............
> >
> > Thanks Jeff - I know what I will be dreaming about tonight.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Rice" <DEEPNHOCKnospahm.DeleteThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:qhnyd.21524$uM5.15438@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > It's tough to paint a '37 properly all together.
> > > They come apart easily, but painting all 40 or so pieces is a pita.
> > > Talk to Cathcart's Studebaker in Plainfield, CT about six cylinder
> stuff.
> > > He's in TW every month.
> > > I would recommend taking out the gas tank and taking it to a good
> radiator
> > > shop for repair.
> > > I know a lot of people fitz around with their own tanks, but I don't
> find
> > it
> > > worth the hassle.
> > > A radiator shop can fix it right and clean it and you get a better
> product
> > > back, usually with a guarantee.
> > > Sticking in a Stude V8 will work, but you'd best spend your penny's on
> the
> > > brakes first.
> > > I think a hot six would be cool....and it's already there!
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Spencer Hager Jr." wrote...
> > > > I've talked to the previous owner & found out the 37 Stude coupe I
> > bought
> > > > off eBay from a flipper has a 1949 245-6 installed in it & is mated
to
> > the
> > > > stock 37 3 speed manual.. Sure explains the torque .
> > > >
> > > > The car was originally owned by a farmer in Nebraska & after
throwing
> a
> > > > rod it was parked & sat under a tree for years.
> > > >
> > > > The vehicle was then saved by the former SDC member & was driven to
> > Estes
> > > > Park Intl. meet some years back & was shown. Any pics of that? Nope.
> > > >
> > > > After being bought by the owner I talked to - the coupe was
repainted
> in
> > > > the early 80's, and, may have some bondo on the right rear fender.
He
> > > > can't remember for sure. The interior was also done at that time.
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line is that my coupe has had its body worked on before & the
> > > > engine is not stock. The interior is not high quality either. No
> > bitching,
> > > > just saying it like I see it & I paid too much @ $20,000. The
flipper
> > > > bought the 37 for $15,000 & that was a good price in my book. Now
that
> I
> > > > have figured out what I have, & about how buried I am, I am in the
> > process
> > > > of figuring out what I am going to do. Kind of exciting really -
that
> is
> > > > to be preparing to go to the next step. All the while I spend my
time
> > > > scraping the undercoating out of the trunk. About 2 more hours & I
> > should
> > > > be done with that.
> > > >
> > > > Do I use glass & POR 15 on the trunk, floor, & body rust because it
is
> > so
> > > > minor or do I go whole hog & start cutting and welding? Do I remove
> the
> > > > old fuel tank patch & do a proper job on it & treat the tank while
it
> is
> > > > removed for the trunk repairs? Do I take the fenders off? Do I strip
> it
> > &
> > > > paint it? Off with the body? Hop up the 6? What about that 63
> full-flow
> > > > 259?
> > > >
> > > > Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question? How
exciting
> > > > ..........................
> > > >
> > > > mmmm - what to do??????? I was really wanting to keep her stock &
now
> it
> > > > seems that is not on the table.
> > > >
> > > > The 245-6 had babbet bearings upgraded to plain bushings & the
engine
> is
> > > > supposed to have the latest oiling updates. I wasn't told what that
> > means
> > > > & would like to know more about the potential of this 49 245-6. Can
> the
> > > > 245-6 be souped up as they used to say? How would I go about
> > pumping
> > > > up the six cyl & what could I expect in output?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Spencer
> > > > Nothing like scattering around a bit on a post. huh?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:40 am
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You can e-mail pic's to several people who will put them on their site (say,
like Sonny)...
You can also go to someplace like Webshots ( <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.webshots.com" target="_blank">www.webshots.com</a> ) and set up a
limited quantity photo site for free, or pay them a few bucks and you get a
big place to store pic's.
Doesn't Yahoo give you some web space to keep pic's on?
Jeff
"Spencer Hager" wrote:...
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:40 am
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<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33741&item=7942320628&rd=1>
I have seen a dozen of these float across Ebay in the last few years....
I keep thinking that would be cool to adapt one to a Stude six (big, or
little).....
Jeff
"Spencer Hager"wrote...
> OOooooooooooooooh doggy & yehahhhhhhhhhhh. I like the looks of that six
> with
> the multi-carbs on the Cathcart's website ..........
>
> Drooling over all the dual exhaust & other shiny bits on that Big Red Six
> on
> their homepage ............
>
> Thanks Jeff - I know what I will be dreaming about tonight.
>
> Spencer
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff Rice" <DEEPNHOCKnospahm.TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:qhnyd.21524$uM5.15438@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> It's tough to paint a '37 properly all together.
>> They come apart easily, but painting all 40 or so pieces is a pita.
>> Talk to Cathcart's Studebaker in Plainfield, CT about six cylinder stuff.
>> He's in TW every month.
>> I would recommend taking out the gas tank and taking it to a good
>> radiator
>> shop for repair.
>> I know a lot of people fitz around with their own tanks, but I don't find
> it
>> worth the hassle.
>> A radiator shop can fix it right and clean it and you get a better
>> product
>> back, usually with a guarantee.
>> Sticking in a Stude V8 will work, but you'd best spend your penny's on
>> the
>> brakes first.
>> I think a hot six would be cool....and it's already there!
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Spencer Hager Jr." wrote...
>> > I've talked to the previous owner & found out the 37 Stude coupe I
> bought
>> > off eBay from a flipper has a 1949 245-6 installed in it & is mated to
> the
>> > stock 37 3 speed manual.. Sure explains the torque .
>> >
>> > The car was originally owned by a farmer in Nebraska & after throwing a
>> > rod it was parked & sat under a tree for years.
>> >
>> > The vehicle was then saved by the former SDC member & was driven to
> Estes
>> > Park Intl. meet some years back & was shown. Any pics of that? Nope.
>> >
>> > After being bought by the owner I talked to - the coupe was repainted
>> > in
>> > the early 80's, and, may have some bondo on the right rear fender. He
>> > can't remember for sure. The interior was also done at that time.
>> >
>> > Bottom line is that my coupe has had its body worked on before & the
>> > engine is not stock. The interior is not high quality either. No
> bitching,
>> > just saying it like I see it & I paid too much @ $20,000. The flipper
>> > bought the 37 for $15,000 & that was a good price in my book. Now that
>> > I
>> > have figured out what I have, & about how buried I am, I am in the
> process
>> > of figuring out what I am going to do. Kind of exciting really - that
>> > is
>> > to be preparing to go to the next step. All the while I spend my time
>> > scraping the undercoating out of the trunk. About 2 more hours & I
> should
>> > be done with that.
>> >
>> > Do I use glass & POR 15 on the trunk, floor, & body rust because it is
> so
>> > minor or do I go whole hog & start cutting and welding? Do I remove the
>> > old fuel tank patch & do a proper job on it & treat the tank while it
>> > is
>> > removed for the trunk repairs? Do I take the fenders off? Do I strip it
> &
>> > paint it? Off with the body? Hop up the 6? What about that 63 full-flow
>> > 259?
>> >
>> > Half assed or do it the right way? That is the question? How exciting
>> > ..........................
>> >
>> > mmmm - what to do??????? I was really wanting to keep her stock & now
>> > it
>> > seems that is not on the table.
>> >
>> > The 245-6 had babbet bearings upgraded to plain bushings & the engine
>> > is
>> > supposed to have the latest oiling updates. I wasn't told what that
> means
>> > & would like to know more about the potential of this 49 245-6. Can the
>> > 245-6 be souped up as they used to say? How would I go about
> pumping
>> > up the six cyl & what could I expect in output?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > Spencer
>> > Nothing like scattering around a bit on a post. huh?
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:40 pm
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Remember Webshots wants the right to pics posted there.
Jeff Rice wrote:
> You can e-mail pic's to several people who will put them on their site (say,
> like Sonny)...
> You can also go to someplace like Webshots ( <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.webshots.com" target="_blank">www.webshots.com</a> ) and set up a
> limited quantity photo site for free, or pay them a few bucks and you get a
> big place to store pic's.
>
> Doesn't Yahoo give you some web space to keep pic's on?
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> "Spencer Hager" wrote:...
>
>>Where is a good place for me to post pics?
>
>
>
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