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Since: Sep 18, 2004 Posts: 64
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:21 pm
Post subject: Re: 2005 Silverado: Rear Drum Brakes ? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>trucks>chevy (more info?)
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I see it on the Ford Trucks with Disc brakes in the Rear. The left rear
side the Caliper is on the front and has a Shield, and right rear is mounted
in the back with No shield on the F250 Super Duty trucks. The Rear Brakes
hold up quite well! Even with lots of Caked on mud/Dirt on these over
loaded Work trucks I see. I think if Chevy did the same type of thing by
Installing a Shield around the Caliper to help block some of the Crap it
would be a better way to go then switching over to drum brakes once again.
Of course there could be the other reason of the Parking Brake having a lot
of problems on the trucks. It's still using a single large round shoe back
there. The Parking Brake never feels that firm like most people are used
to. It ends up getting left on and driven around on until it starts
grinding away. I've replaced quite a few for something that should hardly
ever need to be replaced as it doesn't get used except when the truck is at
a dead stop.
"shiden_kai" <violet_lightening_modified.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> GMC Gremlin wrote:
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>> How can they die in the mud? You can't find a quad with drum brakes
>> for the life of you.....! Why don't front drums die in the mud?
>
> They don't "die". You may be thinking of drum brakes that don't
> work when you go through water. In this instance, I'll give the
> disc brakes the nod. But because of the clearance issues between
> the caliper and rear rims, the position of the caliper (front of the
> rotor)..etc..the rear disc brakes have a tendancy for the banjo
> bolt that holds the brake line to the caliper to loosen up...the
> rocks and crap that get between the caliper and rim can either
> damage the rim/caliper, or get into the caliper and pad area and
> cause premature wear on the pads. Sorry, we see it all the time
> and have to repair them. We have two options for off road trucks,
> we install a pair of mud guards "in front of the rear wheels" and/or
> special shields that bolt onto the rear calipers and they help deflect
> crap away from the caliper area.
>
> Ian
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Since: Aug 04, 2004 Posts: 188
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:22 pm
Post subject: Re: 2005 Silverado: Rear Drum Brakes ? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I know GM has made calipers in the past where the ebrake engaged the normal
pistons. I believe they were on Cadillacs, but a quick search on <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ck5.com" target="_blank">www.ck5.com</a>
would tell you. Mine is on it's way!!!
GMC Gremlin
"JBDragon" <joewald at bigfoot dot com> wrote in message
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> I see it on the Ford Trucks with Disc brakes in the Rear. The left rear
> side the Caliper is on the front and has a Shield, and right rear is
mounted
> in the back with No shield on the F250 Super Duty trucks. The Rear Brakes
> hold up quite well! Even with lots of Caked on mud/Dirt on these over
> loaded Work trucks I see. I think if Chevy did the same type of thing by
> Installing a Shield around the Caliper to help block some of the Crap it
> would be a better way to go then switching over to drum brakes once again.
>
> Of course there could be the other reason of the Parking Brake having a
lot
> of problems on the trucks. It's still using a single large round shoe
back
> there. The Parking Brake never feels that firm like most people are used
> to. It ends up getting left on and driven around on until it starts
> grinding away. I've replaced quite a few for something that should
hardly
> ever need to be replaced as it doesn't get used except when the truck is
at
> a dead stop.
>
>
>
>
> "shiden_kai" <violet_lightening_modified DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4p23d.446859$M95.279872@pd7tw1no...
> > GMC Gremlin wrote:
> >
> >> How can they die in the mud? You can't find a quad with drum brakes
> >> for the life of you.....! Why don't front drums die in the mud?
> >
> > They don't "die". You may be thinking of drum brakes that don't
> > work when you go through water. In this instance, I'll give the
> > disc brakes the nod. But because of the clearance issues between
> > the caliper and rear rims, the position of the caliper (front of the
> > rotor)..etc..the rear disc brakes have a tendancy for the banjo
> > bolt that holds the brake line to the caliper to loosen up...the
> > rocks and crap that get between the caliper and rim can either
> > damage the rim/caliper, or get into the caliper and pad area and
> > cause premature wear on the pads. Sorry, we see it all the time
> > and have to repair them. We have two options for off road trucks,
> > we install a pair of mud guards "in front of the rear wheels" and/or
> > special shields that bolt onto the rear calipers and they help deflect
> > crap away from the caliper area.
> >
> > Ian
> >
>
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Since: Jun 30, 2004 Posts: 322
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:22 pm
Post subject: Re: 2005 Silverado: Rear Drum Brakes ? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"shiden_kai" <violet_lightening_modified.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> One-Shot Scot wrote:
> > I'm afraid that the next phase of GM's retro brake technology might be
> > the elimination of the hydraulic system and a return to the primitive
> > mechanical mechanisms used in the early 30's. Mechanical four-wheel
> > drum
> > brakes will undoubtedly be the next innovation. If GM were to top off
> > this antiquated drum-brake system with a pull-on "emergency" brake,
> > they
> > could set braking technology back by over 70 years.
>
> Ah...we have a comedian. Definitely a humorous paragraph....but
> by no means an intelligent paragraph.
>
> Ian
>
>
'Snicker'
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Since: Apr 06, 2004 Posts: 219
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:21 am
Post subject: Re: 2005 Silverado: Rear Drum Brakes ? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:12:16 GMT, "shiden_kai"
<violet_lightening_modified RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>GMC Gremlin wrote:
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>> How can they die in the mud? You can't find a quad with drum brakes
>> for the life of you.....! Why don't front drums die in the mud?
>
>They don't "die". You may be thinking of drum brakes that don't
>work when you go through water. In this instance, I'll give the
>disc brakes the nod. But because of the clearance issues between
>the caliper and rear rims, the position of the caliper (front of the
>rotor)..etc..the rear disc brakes have a tendancy for the banjo
>bolt that holds the brake line to the caliper to loosen up...the
>rocks and crap that get between the caliper and rim can either
>damage the rim/caliper, or get into the caliper and pad area and
>cause premature wear on the pads. Sorry, we see it all the time
>and have to repair them. We have two options for off road trucks,
>we install a pair of mud guards "in front of the rear wheels" and/or
>special shields that bolt onto the rear calipers and they help deflect
>crap away from the caliper area.
>
>Ian
>
Ian, where would I get either of these items and what is the cost? I
plan to take my S-10 off-road again and maybe it would be a good idea
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Since: Aug 26, 2004 Posts: 260
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:22 pm
Post subject: Re: 2005 Silverado: Rear Drum Brakes ? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Mike Levy wrote:
> Ian, where would I get either of these items and what is the cost? I
> plan to take my S-10 off-road again and maybe it would be a good idea
> to install one or both of these...
As far as I know, they don't make them for the S-10 trucks. We don't
seem to see any problems with them. If I remember, I'll check and
see if the manufacturer makes a version for the S-trucks. These items
are not made by GM, but by an aftermarket place. GM does approve
them. GM does make their own version of caliper shields, but the price
is about 10 times as high, and they don't appear to be as large or robust.
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Since: Apr 06, 2004 Posts: 219
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:21 pm
Post subject: Re: 2005 Silverado: Rear Drum Brakes ? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:34:06 GMT, "shiden_kai"
<violet_lightening_modified DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>Mike Levy wrote:
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>> Ian, where would I get either of these items and what is the cost? I
>> plan to take my S-10 off-road again and maybe it would be a good idea
>> to install one or both of these...
>
>As far as I know, they don't make them for the S-10 trucks. We don't
>seem to see any problems with them. If I remember, I'll check and
>see if the manufacturer makes a version for the S-trucks. These items
>are not made by GM, but by an aftermarket place. GM does approve
>them. GM does make their own version of caliper shields, but the price
>is about 10 times as high, and they don't appear to be as large or robust.
>
>Ian
>
Ian, did you get a chance to check on these? I know the S-10s with
rear discs have issues with caliper slides freezing up on the
passenger side rear tire. Just want to head off problems before they
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