Toyota takes 1Q world sales lead from General Motors

On Apr 28, 12:19 pm, Gosi <gos... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:42 am, Gosi <gos... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 26, 6:22 am, Gosi <gos... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 25, 11:09 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote:
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> > > > It was not too long ago that the pundits and folks you where predicting that
> > > > Ford would soon out sell GM in the US.   At the time Ford had seven of the
> > > > top ten selling vehicle in the US
>
> > > > I believe you are confusing market share with total sales.   If you look at
> > > > the total world sales figures the market today, you will find it is FIVE
> > > > times what it was around the time GM sold around 50% of all the vehicles
> > > > sold in the US.   Today at around 32% of the market in the US they are
> > > > selling more vehicles than they did back then.      
>
> > > >  LOL
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> > > > "Gosi" <gos... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > >news:c5556d45-535f-4263-b56d-5a3b7e1407aa@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Apr 24, 3:35 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote:> What that article actually says is Toyota out sold GM by a few thousand
> > > > > vehicles worldwide for THREE months.   Toyota also out sold GM in 2007 for
> > > > > a
> > > > > number of months but at the end of the year GM outsold Toyota word wide.
> > > > > It is like believing "my team" won the game because they are ahead at the
> > > > > end of the fist half    LOL
>
> > > > > Toyota may indeed outsell GM worldwide by the end of the year because GM
> > > > > does not compete in all of the same market around the world.   GM does not
> > > > > build the same type of midget cars and trucks around the world that the
> > > > > Japanese build
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> > > > > <coachros... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > news:acab4a32-2a9c-48d6-8b4b-
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> > > > What is important to note that for a number of years Toyota has been
> > > > growing while GM is going down.
> > > > They have only met now.
> > > > Toyota is bound to grow.
> > > > What happens to/with GM and how far down they go and how quickly is an
> > > > interesting study.
>
> > > FWIW GM is closing down plants and fighting the UAW in order to be
> > > able to cut costs.
> > > GM is losing money hand over fist.
> > > It is a fashinating study of how not to run a company.
> > > It is interesting that GM is doing ok outside the US.
> > > They are better off closing down the US operations.
> > > The question is when they will spin the US operations off.
> > > It will then be interesting to see how the two companies will do.
> > > GMJekyll vs GMHyde.
> > > Following the slow death of GM is like being on a safari and seing an
> > > elephant under attach by lions.
> > > The Elephant has fallen on one knee now.
>
> > Rick Wagoner got paid $14.4m for ‘07 which is more money than the top
> > 9 executives of Toyota, combined.
> > It is $39,452.05 per day (including weekends)
> > The rats are taking as much with them as they can from the sinking
> > ship.
> > How many cars does GM need to fool onto its customers every day just
> > to pay one stupid guy who is rapidly running the company to the
> > ground?
> > Actually GM is not making any money on the cars.
> > GM is losing money on every car so the money to pay the top rats is
> > taken from shareholders.
>
> It is quite informative to look at the trends in Detroit.
> It is now the poorest city in the US.
> It reached its peak in 1950 and has been declining ever since.
> It had 1.8 million people 1950 and is down to 900.000 now and decline
> predicted for the next decades.

GM's $3.250.000.000 first quarter financial loss

Selling off pieces of what was once the largest and most profitable
corporation

How many sellable pieces are left?

On Apr 30, 2:52 pm, Gosi <gos....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 12:19 pm, Gosi <gos....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 26, 9:42 am, Gosi <gos....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 26, 6:22 am, Gosi <gos....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 25, 11:09 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun....DeleteThis@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > It was not too long ago that the pundits and folks you where predicting that
> > > > > Ford would soon out sell GM in the US.   At the time Ford had seven of the
> > > > > top ten selling vehicle in the US
>
> > > > > I believe you are confusing market share with total sales.   If you look at
> > > > > the total world sales figures the market today, you will find it is FIVE
> > > > > times what it was around the time GM sold around 50% of all the vehicles
> > > > > sold in the US.   Today at around 32% of the market in the US they are
> > > > > selling more vehicles than they did back then.      
>
> > > > >  LOL
>
> > > > > "Gosi" <gos....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:c5556d45-535f-4263-b56d-5a3b7e1407aa@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On Apr 24, 3:35 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun....DeleteThis@lycos.com> wrote:> What that article actually says is Toyota out sold GM by a few thousand
> > > > > > vehicles worldwide for THREE months.   Toyota also out sold GM in 2007 for
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > number of months but at the end of the year GM outsold Toyota word wide.
> > > > > > It is like believing "my team" won the game because they are ahead at the
> > > > > > end of the fist half    LOL
>
> > > > > > Toyota may indeed outsell GM worldwide by the end of the year because GM
> > > > > > does not compete in all of the same market around the world.   GM does not
> > > > > > build the same type of midget cars and trucks around the world that the
> > > > > > Japanese build
>
> > > > > > <coachros....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > news:acab4a32-2a9c-48d6-8b4b-
>
> > > > > What is important to note that for a number of years Toyota has been
> > > > > growing while GM is going down.
> > > > > They have only met now.
> > > > > Toyota is bound to grow.
> > > > > What happens to/with GM and how far down they go and how quickly is an
> > > > > interesting study.
>
> > > > FWIW GM is closing down plants and fighting the UAW in order to be
> > > > able to cut costs.
> > > > GM is losing money hand over fist.
> > > > It is a fashinating study of how not to run a company.
> > > > It is interesting that GM is doing ok outside the US.
> > > > They are better off closing down the US operations.
> > > > The question is when they will spin the US operations off.
> > > > It will then be interesting to see how the two companies will do.
> > > > GMJekyll vs GMHyde.
> > > > Following the slow death of GM is like being on a safari and seing an
> > > > elephant under attach by lions.
> > > > The Elephant has fallen on one knee now.
>
> > > Rick Wagoner got paid $14.4m for ‘07 which is more money than the top
> > > 9 executives of Toyota, combined.
> > > It is $39,452.05 per day (including weekends)
> > > The rats are taking as much with them as they can from the sinking
> > > ship.
> > > How many cars does GM need to fool onto its customers every day just
> > > to pay one stupid guy who is rapidly running the company to the
> > > ground?
> > > Actually GM is not making any money on the cars.
> > > GM is losing money on every car so the money to pay the top rats is
> > > taken from shareholders.
>
> > It is quite informative to look at the trends in Detroit.
> > It is now the poorest city in the US.
> > It reached its peak in 1950 and has been declining ever since.
> > It had 1.8 million people 1950 and is down to 900.000 now and decline
> > predicted for the next decades.
>
> GM's $3.250.000.000 first quarter financial loss
>
> Selling off pieces of what was once the largest and most profitable
> corporation
>
> How many sellable pieces are left?

GMAC lost $589.000.000 during the first quarter of 2008
If GMAC or should I say when GMAC goes belly up then that could start
a wave of GM dealer bankruptcies and ultimately GM

GM is slowing down production a lot but still the inventories are
growing.
Looks like the speed of the downward spiral is increasing