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(Msg. 31) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Door locked by itself - 2007 Sonata [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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irwell <hook RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in
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> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:57:43 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <mmarlowREMOVE RemoveThis @alltel.net> wrote:
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>>"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99 RemoveThis @Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
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> Oregon has a ban on fill it yourself, you can get out of the car,
> though.
I thought Oregon repealed that just a few years ago? Well, no matter, I
was being facitious about getting out of the car in NJ though. You CAN get
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:49 pm
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp.RemoveThis@snet.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> There is NO WAY the receiver will mistake anything else for an authentic
>> transmission.
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> One word. Titanic
>
If I remember correctly, the issue with the Titanic was related to something
opening - the hull - when it was preferred that that it didn't. The problem
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:55 pm
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:55 am
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp DeleteThis @snet.net> wrote in news:Opvoj.1735$Ch6.764
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> "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99 DeleteThis @Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
>> I even leave the kids AND the keys in the car sometimes.
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> Now THAT has possibilities.
Yeah, I was hoping someone with kids would pick up on that 
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:24 am
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"Bob" <bobsjunkmail.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Hitting an iceberg with the vehicle could result in the doors either
> opening, or sticking closed depending on a number of factors.
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No. Hitting an iceberg with a vehicle would cause the vehicle to... sink.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:58 pm
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"Bob" <bobsjunkmail.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> The decoder needs at least three separate 64 bit encrypted sequences to
> be exactly correct. That just isn't going to happen, as I said in my
> original statement "There is NO WAY the receiver will mistake anything
> else for an authentic transmission".
I'd believe you, but life has proven that the most perfect system can fail.
Ask any accident investigator. >> Stay informed about: Door locked by itself - 2007 Sonata |
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:54 pm
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There's a big difference in a negative failure and a positive failure.
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp.RemoveThis@snet.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> The decoder needs at least three separate 64 bit encrypted sequences to
>> be exactly correct. That just isn't going to happen, as I said in my
>> original statement "There is NO WAY the receiver will mistake anything
>> else for an authentic transmission".
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> I'd believe you, but life has proven that the most perfect system can
> fail. Ask any accident investigator.
> >> Stay informed about: Door locked by itself - 2007 Sonata |
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:13 am
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:56 pm
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:56 pm
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You're a smart guy, I'm sure you'll figure it out sooner or later.
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"Matt Whiting" <whiting.DeleteThis@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Partner wrote:
>> There's a big difference in a negative failure and a positive failure.
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> What??? >> Stay informed about: Door locked by itself - 2007 Sonata |
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:55 pm
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Partner wrote:
> You're a smart guy, I'm sure you'll figure it out sooner or later.
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It is an erroneous statement so it isn't possible to figure it out as I
can't read your mind.
There are false positives and false negatives, Type 1 and 2 failures
also called Type I and II and sometimes called alpha and beta failures,
but there are no positive and negative failures.
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:03 am
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:26 am
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:14 pm
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On Jan 30, 6:18 am, irwell <h... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:02:12 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <e... DeleteThis @snet.net>
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> >"Pit's" <spamlis... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> good idea when at gas stations or any where to get into the habit of
> >> taking the keys with you.Just in case some clown jumps in while you
> >> are paying for the gas Groceries etc etc and takes off on a joy
> >> ride .To me is a good bit of security that the car locks itself when
> >> keys removed yours seem exceptionally touchy though
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> >I leave the car running while pumping gas and it has not locked on me. In
> >the case of hte OP, it would be good practice to either remove the key or
> >lower a window until some conclusive cause is found.
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> >As for going inside to pay, thee is a bit of security if you have the proper
> >type of remote starter installed. With mine, I can hit the button on the
> >fob and then remove the key and leave the engine (and AC or heat) running
> >while you do into the store. You can lock hte doors if you want, but putting
> >your foot on the brake without hte key in the "on" position kills
> >everything.
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> >I really like the remote starter when temperatures are extreme in either
> >direction.
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> Isn't it breaking the law to leave an unattended vehicle with
> the engine running, either on the highway or a public place?
Sir , it is in so in some parts within the Commonwealth of Australia.
On this key thing -you folk must have pointed the bone at me.
Happened last night when I got in the car !!
The chain of events went like this
1 unlocked the car with the key rather than the remote .
2 Alarm triggered
3 used remote to stop alarm
4 Entered car as normal started car
as reversing the doos locked by themselves ? That has never happened
before ( unless I set the auto lock thing via the arm rest )
This may help hyundai tech track down teh cause.
could it be a sequence within teh chip that controls this function ?
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:56 am
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Where's you FIL live? I'd like to move there.
When I was a kid in rural western Wisconsin all the relatives used to leave
their homes unlocked if they were away for less than a day or so. If you
visited, and they weren't home, you could leave a note saying you'd see them
later or whatever.
Unfortunately they don't (can't?) do that anymore. And the politicians tell
you America's best days are still ahead of us if you elect them. Yeah,
right.
"Brian Matthews" <noonecares.TakeThisOut@ddd.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:24:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <mmarlowREMOVE.TakeThisOut@alltel.net> wrote:
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>>"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007.TakeThisOut@at-gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:479eb7e1$0$30036$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
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>>> That's a new 'Feature', to teach people "NOT to leave the keys on the
>>> ignition when they get out of the car. This is a major NO-NO, so Hyundai
>>> is helping their customers. 
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>>No - you've got it wrong. It's no major NO-NO to leave your keys in the
>>car
>>for such things as filling up the tank. That's only for the foolish
>>people
>>of the world. It's really the Korean version of a joke. Different sort
>>of
>>sense of humor and all...
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> This reminds me of my father in law. He lives in a very rural area,
> while we live in the BIG city. He came down and we had to go to
> K-Mart. We were getting out of the car and I noticed he left the keys
> in his car. When I mentioned to him that he might want to take his key
> out and lock the car up, his response to me was " What if someone
> needs to move it?" I actually LMAO!
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> Brian >> Stay informed about: Door locked by itself - 2007 Sonata |
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