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Gas Man

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:01 pm
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"Keith Willcocks" <invalidaddress.TakeThisOut@invalidaddress.invalid> wrote in
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>
> "Gas Man" <gas_man.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>> "Keith Willcocks" <buccaneer.TakeThisOut@invalidaddress.com> wrote in
>> news:erKdnZqG_aH9tC3ZRVnyiQ@bt.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Chris" <chris.TakeThisOut@thingysrealm.myftp.org> wrote in message
>>> news:20060708142310.316e9ecf@isis...
>>>> On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700
>>>> "alecalgo@madasafish.com" <alecalgo.TakeThisOut@madasafish.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
>>>>> Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
>>>>> ...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot
>> 1.9
>>>>> diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines
>>>>> around (in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep
>>>>> hearing of all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it
>>>>> because it was once a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing
a
>>>>> new engine they just bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the
>>>>> distance between the cyls ..? I am looking for an absolutely
basic
>> 5
>>>>> to 7 year old diesel car in the 2 litre range .... definitely
not
>>>>> turbo, definitely got to
>>> <<snip>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have had my 405 deisel for many years and its got over
>> 256000miles
>>>> on the clock.and still gos very well, it might be it has oil and
>> all
>>>> filters done every 4 months.i am very happy with this 1.9 deisel
>> like
>>>> many other people that i know have the same engine.with or
without
>>>> turbo.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agree totally. Previously I had a 405 with 1.9 non turbo engine
>>> (properly called normally aspirated) gave well in excess of
100,000
>>> miles and currently a 406 2.0 HDI that goes like a rocket and has
>>> 112,000 on the clock. Neither of the engines have given any
>> problems
>>> at all. No idea what you are talking about regarding head
gaskets.
>>>
>>> Why do you not want a turbo? 1.9 TD runs far better than the non
>>> turbo and the HDI is far superior even to the TD and has been
around
>>> since 1999 which is the year of my 406.
>>
>> plus you can run on bio-diesel (as stated by email from Peugeot
>> themselves)with no probs.
>> requires some mineral diesel in cold weather(anti-waxing)but
>> otherwise nothing else (even HDi engines )
>
> Are you certain of that with regard to HDI engines. Some time ago
> there was discussion about that on this group accompanied by dire
> warnings abut using bio in HDI engines, in fact probably all common
> rail diesels. Apparently, amongst other things, it screws the anti
> pollution system. See this link
> http://forum.rac.co.uk/showthread.php?t=799

This is the reply from Peugeot

"Thank you for your recent enquiry made via the Peugeot website.

Since 1998 Peugeot has engineered all of its HDi diesel engines to run
on biofuels. This flexibility in the design of the Peugeot HDi diesel
engine means that today, all current Peugeot HDi diesel engines can
run on a blend of 30% vegetable oil methylester/diesel biofuel,
without any modification.

Therefore with the current level of available biofuel at the UK pump
being only 5%, Peugeot again demonstrates its forward thinking in
respect to environmental issues.

Fuel quality for bio-diesel and for diesel fuel must conform to
European fuel norms EN14214 and EN590.


Kind regards,

Dobir Hussain
______________________________________________
Peugeot Customer Advisor
_______________________________________________
The Peugeot Customer Contact Centre

Tel: 0845 200 1234
Web: <http://www.peugeot.co.uk>"

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Keith Willcocks

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:23 pm
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"Gas Man" <gas_man DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> "Keith Willcocks" <invalidaddress DeleteThis @invalidaddress.invalid> wrote in
> news:fs7vna$8e3$1@news.albasani.net:
>
>>
>> "Gas Man" <gas_man DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9A6B5FCB61Cogre54@62.253.170.163...
>>> "Keith Willcocks" <buccaneer DeleteThis @invalidaddress.com> wrote in
>>> news:erKdnZqG_aH9tC3ZRVnyiQ@bt.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Chris" <chris DeleteThis @thingysrealm.myftp.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:20060708142310.316e9ecf@isis...
>>>>> On 8 Jul 2006 04:44:52 -0700
>>>>> "alecalgo@madasafish.com" <alecalgo DeleteThis @madasafish.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BEST 2 LITRE(ish) PLODDER DIESEL .... ??
>>>>>> Any lovers of yr basic plodder diesel around ....?
>>>>>> ...... fitted across a range of cars, it's said that the peugeot
>>> 1.9
>>>>>> diesel is one of the most sturdy and unbreakable diesel engines
>>>>>> around (in that size range) .... ?? if that is so why do we keep
>>>>>> hearing of all the head gasket probs to do with it ...? is it
>>>>>> because it was once a 1.5 or 1.7 litre and instead of developing
> a
>>>>>> new engine they just bored it out .... ? thereby reducing the
>>>>>> distance between the cyls ..? I am looking for an absolutely
> basic
>>> 5
>>>>>> to 7 year old diesel car in the 2 litre range .... definitely
> not
>>>>>> turbo, definitely got to
>>>> <<snip>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had my 405 deisel for many years and its got over
>>> 256000miles
>>>>> on the clock.and still gos very well, it might be it has oil and
>>> all
>>>>> filters done every 4 months.i am very happy with this 1.9 deisel
>>> like
>>>>> many other people that i know have the same engine.with or
> without
>>>>> turbo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agree totally. Previously I had a 405 with 1.9 non turbo engine
>>>> (properly called normally aspirated) gave well in excess of
> 100,000
>>>> miles and currently a 406 2.0 HDI that goes like a rocket and has
>>>> 112,000 on the clock. Neither of the engines have given any
>>> problems
>>>> at all. No idea what you are talking about regarding head
> gaskets.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you not want a turbo? 1.9 TD runs far better than the non
>>>> turbo and the HDI is far superior even to the TD and has been
> around
>>>> since 1999 which is the year of my 406.
>>>
>>> plus you can run on bio-diesel (as stated by email from Peugeot
>>> themselves)with no probs.
>>> requires some mineral diesel in cold weather(anti-waxing)but
>>> otherwise nothing else (even HDi engines )
>>
>> Are you certain of that with regard to HDI engines. Some time ago
>> there was discussion about that on this group accompanied by dire
>> warnings abut using bio in HDI engines, in fact probably all common
>> rail diesels. Apparently, amongst other things, it screws the anti
>> pollution system. See this link
>> http://forum.rac.co.uk/showthread.php?t=799
>
> This is the reply from Peugeot
>
> "Thank you for your recent enquiry made via the Peugeot website.
>
> Since 1998 Peugeot has engineered all of its HDi diesel engines to run
> on biofuels. This flexibility in the design of the Peugeot HDi diesel
> engine means that today, all current Peugeot HDi diesel engines can
> run on a blend of 30% vegetable oil methylester/diesel biofuel,
> without any modification.
>
> Therefore with the current level of available biofuel at the UK pump
> being only 5%, Peugeot again demonstrates its forward thinking in
> respect to environmental issues.
>
> Fuel quality for bio-diesel and for diesel fuel must conform to
> European fuel norms EN14214 and EN590.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Dobir Hussain
> ______________________________________________
> Peugeot Customer Advisor
> _______________________________________________
> The Peugeot Customer Contact Centre
>
> Tel: 0845 200 1234
> Web: <http://www.peugeot.co.uk>"

Thanks for that. It would be interesting to hear if anyone has actually
done it with an HDI. I would not want to be the guinea pig myself, but
having said that I am not aware of any filling stations around here that
sell it anyway.
--
Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)

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R N Robinson

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:24 pm
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"Keith Willcocks" <invalidaddress DeleteThis @invalidaddress.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Gas Man" <gas_man DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A6CAD10426A1ogre54@80.5.182.99...
>> Since 1998 Peugeot has engineered all of its HDi diesel engines to run
>> on biofuels. This flexibility in the design of the Peugeot HDi diesel
>> engine means that today, all current Peugeot HDi diesel engines can
>> run on a blend of 30% vegetable oil methylester/diesel biofuel,
>> without any modification.
>>
>> Therefore with the current level of available biofuel at the UK pump
>> being only 5%, Peugeot again demonstrates its forward thinking in
>> respect to environmental issues.
>>
>> Fuel quality for bio-diesel and for diesel fuel must conform to
>> European fuel norms EN14214 and EN590.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Dobir Hussain
>> ______________________________________________
>> Peugeot Customer Advisor
>> _______________________________________________
>> The Peugeot Customer Contact Centre
>>
>> Tel: 0845 200 1234
>> Web: <http://www.peugeot.co.uk>"
>
> Thanks for that. It would be interesting to hear if anyone has actually
> done it with an HDI. I would not want to be the guinea pig myself, but
> having said that I am not aware of any filling stations around here that
> sell it anyway.
> --

I doubt very much whether the contents of my chip fryer conforms to either
of the two quoted specifications so I will not be emptying it into the fuel
tank of my 807.
There's a difference between progress and change, and even change isn't all
it's cracked up to be.

Ron Robinson
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:07 pm
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Have not seen any round Weybridge Addlestone area selling bio
diesel.dont think i would like to try it in my pug 405.police would
love that as they are very tight at the mo with cars smoking round town.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:53 pm
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Hello,

> Thanks for that. It would be interesting to hear if anyone has actually
> done it with an HDI. I would not want to be the guinea pig myself, but
> having said that I am not aware of any filling stations around here that
> sell it anyway.
PSA does. Indeed, there's an agreement in France for companies to fill their
tanks with this 30% mix in the case of captive fleet (the cars which never
leave a closed area). And so, they use HDis with that fuel... These cars
musn't have many miles, even if the production sites sometimes are gigantic.
I've been visiting once the Sochaux plant, some cars* were parked with a big
sign on the bonnet saying "Usage interne" (: internal use) and having no reg
plates.
* Among others, a 307, a couple of days before its official launch. Eeeer
I've seen a lot of them around, indeed Smile

Regards,
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G.T
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:07 pm
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Chris wrote:
> Have not seen any round Weybridge Addlestone area selling bio
> diesel.dont think i would like to try it in my pug 405.police would
> love that as they are very tight at the mo with cars smoking round town.

I have just bought a 405 1.9TD (1993) with a Bosch fuel pump. One of
the reasons for choosing this car was that the engine should take SVO
without any problems.

I'll let you know how I get on.

My Defender 110 (200TDi) runs on 100% SVO in the summer with no
problems. I am in the middle of fitting a dual tank system for the winter.

Cheers

Peter
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