'96 Explorer XLT: Best location for tube subwoofer?

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:17:18 -0500, "wabbitslayer"
wrote:

  >> This is a subwoofer we're discussing. Non-directional.
 >
 >"we" are? I'll stand by what I said.
 >
Yes, we. It's in the thread, and it's specifically what you responded
to.
Right there in the subject, even.
Subwoofer puts out bass; bass is non-directional. That's why the
location of a subwoofer isn't critical.

--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"
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I can't remember where I saw it, but someone makes an 8" or 10" sub that
goes into the little netted cubby in the back. You can probably Google it.

Bob wrote:

 > My reasons for installing a sub are very simple. There is no way even
 > good quality 5x7 speakers (I have Boston Acoustics) in the doors can
 > reproduce anywhere near *natural* bass. I am not into playing my
 > system so loud to cause hearing damage or bother other drivers. I also
 > did not do it to "look cool"...I am well past that point in my life.
 > It's very simple...I did it because I enjoy good sound.
 >
 > Now, does anyone have any suggestions for placement of the sub without
 > a lecture attached?
 >
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OMG! A cardboard box? The difference between a good subwoofer and loud
bass "noise" is the box. There is a whole field of acoustics dedicated
to speaker box design. The critical factors include volume, porting,
damping, resonance and rigidity. At least the Pioneer tube has been
engineered to include some of these factors. If you're going to use a
cardboard box, you might as well just stick the speaker driver magnet to
the underside of the seat. Cost (excluding speaker) = $0.

Anastazi wrote:


 > I had a large Pioneer bazooka type tube also, and I got broken into and the
 > window destroyed because some mexican wanted it and took it.
 >
 > It got stolen because I too couldn't fit it under my rear seat.
 >
 > So this time I made my own subwoofer and fit it under the seat, and now I
 > sleep a lot easier and it actually sounds better.
 >
 > Total cost? $20.00
 >
 > one cardboard flat box
 > 1/4 can of spray paint.
 > some wires.
 > two used 10" bass speakers
 > a tiny bit of solder
 > an exacto knife
 > 12 plastic screws, nuts and two washers each.
 >
 > Simply put your speakers on top of your box and trace out the inside
 > diameter.
 > then cut out the two or one circles.
 > Use a filleting pointy knife, start 12 holes with the speaker still held
 > down as a template.
 > Hold speaker now under/in the box, and push plastic bolt with washer
 > through.
 > Secure from top with another washer and nut.
 > Do for all 12/2 speakers.
 > Run split wire from amp and solder two wires to each end so you have now a
 > total of four wires coming off of two.
 > Run the two postives to the two positives of the speakers and the two
 > grounds to the two grounds.
 > Spray paint your cardboard box whatever color you want after using
 > strapping tape to secure it securly on all edges and sides.
 >
 > Sit back and rock on!
 >
 > msm
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I've read this string with much interest. I have a Bazooka 8" bass tube
(likely an older model than yours) in my car, and it gives me just
enough bass without being overpowering.
However, the car its in is a hatchback, so I have it placed against the
rear seat to one side. My installer played around with positioning
before securing it in place, and this location was the most unobtrusive
while maximizing bass effect.
He told me that, in my case, the angle of my rear hatch would help
"deflect" the bass forward towards me.

In my opinion, a bass tube such as the Bazooka, amplified or not, is
best suited for smaller spaces. I also own a 96 Explorer, and given the
distance between the driver and any reasonable location of the tube,
among other factors (road noise for example) subs of this kind will make
little impact.
I'm a 40 year old who spent over a dozen years selling stereo equipment,
including mobile audio.
My recommendation, if you can allow the space, is to get a good sealed
box for a 10" sub, and amplify it externally. A sealed sub will give you
the "tightest" response for your bass, rather than just boom.
The box size, at most, might take up a cube area about 12" behind your
rear seat.

I realize theft may be a concern. Does your Explorer have the factory
tint?
Mine has factory tint, but I wanted aftermarket tint also. The result is
an almost mirror-like effect from outside on all but the front door
windows (which are only darker because they had no factory tint).
Its all but impossible to see inside from anywhere but the front doors
and windshield, yet my tint is not darker than legally allowed.

I apologize for the length of this reply, but since I have first-hand
experience with both the vehicle and the sub I wanted to weigh in. Best
wishes on whatever you do.

Randy

We're living in a world that's been pulled over our eyes to blind us
from the truth. Where are you, white rabbit?
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I've never heard of two VHF transmitters jamming boom cars. Where did you discover this intriguing technique?

DR RASTIS FAF00FNIK wrote:

Why not use it for a headrest? I TOTALLY enjoy jamming those with the loud booming stereos! it works GREAT, sometimes blows up the amp or pops the speakers. All we do is key up TWO high power VHF or UHF transmitters at the same time, on the same frequency. The resulting squeal comes thru their system AT FULL VOLUME hahaha.Since it gets directly into the amp and cabling the head end volume controls DONT WORK. I wish i had a picture of some of the looks we get Yeah..use the boomtube for a headrest..that will work. "Bob" <am_dew.RemoveThis@REMOVepanixThis.com> wrote in message news:d07prb$ite$1@reader2.panix.com... > > I just installed a Bazooka EL8A 8" amplified sub in my 1996 Ford > Explorer. Does anyone have any recommendations on the best location > for it? Now I have it just behind the rear seat facing back towards > the rear hatch due to wire length restrictions, but I'm willing to > extend the wires if there is a better location for it. > > Thanks.</font>

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I'm a tech, and I've never heard such a thing. I have seen EMP devices
deployed that work wonders though.

"robrobrob" wrote in message

| "DR RASTIS FAF00FNIK" wrote:
| >Why not use it for a headrest?
| >I TOTALLY enjoy jamming those with the loud booming stereos! it works
| >GREAT,
| >sometimes blows up the amp or pops the speakers. All we do is key up
| >TWO
| >high power VHF or UHF transmitters at the same time, on the same
| >frequency.
| >The resulting squeal comes thru their system AT FULL VOLUME
| >hahaha.Since it
| >gets directly into the amp and cabling the head end volume controls
| >DONT
| >WORK.
| >I wish i had a picture of some of the looks we get
| >
| >Yeah..use the boomtube for a headrest..that will work.
| >
| >
| >"Bob" wrote in message
| >
| >>
| >> I just installed a Bazooka EL8A 8" amplified sub in my 1996 Ford
| >> Explorer. Does anyone have any recommendations on the best
| >location
| >> for it? Now I have it just behind the rear seat facing back
| >towards
| >> the rear hatch due to wire length restrictions, but I'm
| >willing to
| >> extend the wires if there is a better location for it.
| >>
| >> Thanks.</font>
|
| I've never heard of two VHF transmitters jamming boom cars. Where did
| you discover this intriguing technique?
|
|
|
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"John Riggs" wrote in message

 > I'm a tech, and I've never heard such a thing. I have seen EMP devices
 > deployed that work wonders though.
 > | I've never heard of two VHF transmitters jamming boom cars. Where did
 > | you discover this intriguing technique?


Try it..it works. You can simulate it with two hand held radios and a boom
box. Simply put the two handhelds on the same channel, key them both and
listen to what it does to the boombox.
The resulting "beatnote" will be detected in the boombox.

 >
 >
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...but then, with the amount of wattage necessary to accomplish this
feat, won't it be in violation of FCC regulations? I believe it does, since
it would interfere with radio and television reception. You see, the very
nature of what you propose dictates that it must violate those regulations,
and I certainly hate paying fines, particularly large federal ones.

"DR RASTIS FAF00FNIK" wrote in message

|
| "John Riggs" wrote in message
|
| > I'm a tech, and I've never heard such a thing. I have seen EMP
devices
| > deployed that work wonders though.
| > | I've never heard of two VHF transmitters jamming boom cars. Where did
| > | you discover this intriguing technique?
|
|
| Try it..it works. You can simulate it with two hand held radios and a boom
| box. Simply put the two handhelds on the same channel, key them both and
| listen to what it does to the boombox.
| The resulting "beatnote" will be detected in the boombox.
|
| >
| >
|
|
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"John Riggs" wrote in message

 > ...but then, with the amount of wattage necessary to accomplish this
 > feat, won't it be in violation of FCC regulations? I believe it does,
since
 > it would interfere with radio and television reception. You see, the very
 > nature of what you propose dictates that it must violate those
regulations,
 > and I certainly hate paying fines, particularly large federal ones.
 >
 > |
 > | Try it..it works. You can simulate it with two hand held radios and a
boom
 > | box. Simply put the two handhelds on the same channel, key them both and
 > | listen to what it does to the boombox.
 > | The resulting "beatnote" will be detected in the boombox.

Oh jeez..give me a break! it doesnt take thousands of watts. It's about as
bad as doing 40 in a 35MPH zone.
I suppose your 100 % honest on your income tax right? I bet if they make a
mistake in your favor at the store you point it right out don't you?
Did you ever operate a CB set without a license when it used to be required?
Do you have a FRS/GMRS radio, and if so what is your FCC issued Callsign?
I doubt the FCC is going to bother with you if you rip up some Hip-Hop's
piece of shit stereo. Your NOT going to "decimate" radios and TV's for
miles..just one assholes boombox.....
What kind of a "Tech" are you, that you can't figure this out?
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Nope, in only takes screwing up someone's reception to be in violation,
and *I am* 100% honest on my income tax...so much the IRS wants to send me
more money (go figure ).
Yes, you might get a ticket the first time, but subsequent noncompliance
could land a person in jail for a year in addition to a fine....techs get it
worst of all, because we know better.

Sorry, Charlie.


"DR RASTIS FAF00FNIK" wrote in message

|
| "John Riggs" wrote in message
|
| > ...but then, with the amount of wattage necessary to accomplish this
| > feat, won't it be in violation of FCC regulations? I believe it does,
| since
| > it would interfere with radio and television reception. You see, the
very
| > nature of what you propose dictates that it must violate those
| regulations,
| > and I certainly hate paying fines, particularly large federal ones.
| >
| > |
| > | Try it..it works. You can simulate it with two hand held radios and a
| boom
| > | box. Simply put the two handhelds on the same channel, key them both
and
| > | listen to what it does to the boombox.
| > | The resulting "beatnote" will be detected in the boombox.
|
| Oh jeez..give me a break! it doesnt take thousands of watts. It's about as
| bad as doing 40 in a 35MPH zone.
| I suppose your 100 % honest on your income tax right? I bet if they make a
| mistake in your favor at the store you point it right out don't you?
| Did you ever operate a CB set without a license when it used to be
required?
| Do you have a FRS/GMRS radio, and if so what is your FCC issued Callsign?
| I doubt the FCC is going to bother with you if you rip up some Hip-Hop's
| piece of shit stereo. Your NOT going to "decimate" radios and TV's for
| miles..just one assholes boombox.....
| What kind of a "Tech" are you, that you can't figure this out?
|
|
|
|
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