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Since: Sep 06, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:52 am
Post subject: more ebay
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Below is a post from a fellow ebay seller in response to ebay's ridiculous
new policy of not allowing sellers to leave feedback.
This policy will allow buyers to leave neg feedback for no legitimate
reason, and I have seen that there is a certain percentage of people who can
not be pleased no matter what, and who love to leave neg feedback just
because they can. (just as some trolls like to lie and hurl insults at
others on newsgroups from behind the safety of their keyboards just because
they can)
I know that some sellers of junk would like for buyers to be intimidated
from leavinig well deserved neg feedback out of fear of receiving undeserved
neg feedback in return, so understand ebay's rationale, just think it will
lead to tons of bad feedbacks for sellers. Sellers will still be able to
file NPB's for deadbeat bidders, but often that is not adequate. It
indicates to me that ebay is becoming nervous about competing services and
is trying to find methods to make their system more attractive to buyers,
since many buyers are abandoning ebay and ebay dies without buyers.
My response will probably be to cancel bids & block any bidders who have a
history of leaving neg feedback.
George Taylor <tex1gt RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
As an A2 seller of about 5000 items ..with 3 negative feedbacks..all from
non-pay bidders..I would like to point out (that)sellers are ebay customers
and pay fees. Buyers are NOT ebay customers and pay NOTHING! Why do you
feel it proper to empower those with whom you have no relationship nor
collect any monies over your customers? My customers are not your
customers. You have no business interfering until I fail to perform..and
then your business is with me..not my customers. Taking away my ability to
keep ebay safe from bad buyers only weakens ebay..not make it stronger. You
need to get your priorities straight. George Taylor |
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Since: Nov 14, 2004
Posts: 252
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:22 pm
Post subject: Re: more ebay [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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As a (mostly) buyer, I might disagree with the characterization that
buyers are not customers of eBay...
a) I am both a buyer AND a seller, albeit mostly a buyer; I want to be
able to complain
or answer a complaint when I'm treated badly, whether I'm a buyer
or a seller
b) Even when I'm a buyer I pay the eBay fees indirectly when an item
is sold to me
c) eBay deals with me directly, via their computer interface, as does
the seller;
without the buyer (just as without the seller) there is no eBay
That said, I too, disagree with sellers not being able to leave factual
feedback;
as a buyer, when I find the seller of an item I'm interested in has a habit
of flaming buyers who complain, I'm not likely to bid on his items, because
a) multiple buyers are obviously unhappy with him
b) people with an attitude/temper are not people I want to do business
with;
there's no excuse for sellers to be other than polite and factual,
especially
when writing in a place where potential buyers see it... they're
stupid for doing it |
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Since: Dec 18, 2004
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:51 pm
Post subject: Re: more ebay [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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They are just going through another one of their phases, that makes no
real sense. Then everytime the top-dog leaves, it is their excuse to
raise prices. They said prices are going down, but big deal. They
dropped the posting fee slightly, but raised the final value fee
greatly. They only told half the story, the half that they want
people and the media to hear. Their own forums are filling up fast
with angry comments. Business is hurting and it is affecting their
pockets and their shareholder's pockets.. The sellers foot the bill,
yet many are disgruntled. Either way, their glory days are just about
over. It's just the same-old, same-old. They don't really like
occasional sellers and are trying hard to make some of them bow out.
Looks like they found a way. >> Stay informed about: more ebay |
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Since: Nov 19, 2007
Posts: 42
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:21 pm
Post subject: Re: more ebay [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Feb 3, 2:22 pm, WayneC <Way....RemoveThis@linkline.moc> wrote:
> As a (mostly) buyer, I might disagree with the characterization that
> buyers are not customers of eBay...
> a) I am both a buyer AND a seller, albeit mostly a buyer; I want to be
> able to complain
> or answer a complaint when I'm treated badly, whether I'm a buyer
> or a seller
> b) Even when I'm a buyer I pay the eBay fees indirectly when an item
> is sold to me
> c) eBay deals with me directly, via their computer interface, as does
> the seller;
> without the buyer (just as without the seller) there is no eBay
>
> That said, I too, disagree with sellers not being able to leave factual
> feedback;
> as a buyer, when I find the seller of an item I'm interested in has a habit
> of flaming buyers who complain, I'm not likely to bid on his items, because
> a) multiple buyers are obviously unhappy with him
> b) people with an attitude/temper are not people I want to do business
> with;
> there's no excuse for sellers to be other than polite and factual,
> especially
> when writing in a place where potential buyers see it... they're
> stupid for doing it
Minor point: If buyers use Pay Pal, then they are customers of eBay.
In a way, that fee is insurance against the seller getting your credit
card number.
FWIW, I got a Jefferson clock with a broken (crack from center to
edge, round glass. The USPS said that there was dirt in the crack that
indicated it was there before shipping. As ir worked fine, I didn't
bother following up when the seller "didn't return my call." >> Stay informed about: more ebay |
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Since: Jan 27, 2007
Posts: 318
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:58 am
Post subject: Re: more ebay [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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eBay has gotten to big for its britches and this is one of the results.
Also, it gets more complicated to list an item for sale. What used to
take a few minutes now has become a tiresome involved procedure.
Hence, I rely more on Craig's List these days...
JT
Barry wrote:
> Below is a post from a fellow ebay seller in response to ebay's ridiculous
> new policy of not allowing sellers to leave feedback.
> This policy will allow buyers to leave neg feedback for no legitimate
> reason, and I have seen that there is a certain percentage of people who can
> not be pleased no matter what, and who love to leave neg feedback just
> because they can. (just as some trolls like to lie and hurl insults at
> others on newsgroups from behind the safety of their keyboards just because
> they can)
> I know that some sellers of junk would like for buyers to be intimidated
> from leavinig well deserved neg feedback out of fear of receiving undeserved
> neg feedback in return, so understand ebay's rationale, just think it will
> lead to tons of bad feedbacks for sellers. Sellers will still be able to
> file NPB's for deadbeat bidders, but often that is not adequate. It
> indicates to me that ebay is becoming nervous about competing services and
> is trying to find methods to make their system more attractive to buyers,
> since many buyers are abandoning ebay and ebay dies without buyers.
> My response will probably be to cancel bids & block any bidders who have a
> history of leaving neg feedback.
>
> George Taylor <tex1gt.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> As an A2 seller of about 5000 items ..with 3 negative feedbacks..all from
> non-pay bidders..I would like to point out (that)sellers are ebay customers
> and pay fees. Buyers are NOT ebay customers and pay NOTHING! Why do you
> feel it proper to empower those with whom you have no relationship nor
> collect any monies over your customers? My customers are not your
> customers. You have no business interfering until I fail to perform..and
> then your business is with me..not my customers. Taking away my ability to
> keep ebay safe from bad buyers only weakens ebay..not make it stronger. You
> need to get your priorities straight. George Taylor
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: more ebay |
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