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Robert Black

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:40 am
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It says,and I quote on page 17 in the 1960 Studebakers owners manual,when
describing how to use Flightomatic,
"For extra quick getaway from a standing start on models equipped with the
V-8 engine,push the accelerator all the way to the floorboard".

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:52 am
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Then shift from neutral to drive, instant wheel hop.
I loved going to the midnight drags, and watching the high school kids
drag race. lots of flying drive shafts, and U-joints. LOL

Bob Whiten
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:40 am
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Ah the bese was an old tarry back road, no one cars around, put it in
reverse,get up to 5-10 in reverse and drop it in low. Tires smoking car
still going backwards, gigantic reverse curl for all to see. with the
non-positrack cars that black line could be as long as an 1/8 mile if the
road was good.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:29 am
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I believe the technical term for this technique is called a "neutral
slam" - at least that's what we called along Woodward Ave in the early
70's.

Not real healthy for the tranny either. Limped home one night in my
parents 56 T-Bird after trying to impress a Corvette driving girl with
a neutral slam.
T-Bird needed a tranny rebuild including torque converter and I was
not allowed to drive it again until I was 25.

1963R2


zzbob RemoveThis @webtv.net (Wagonmaster) wrote in message news:<25863-41AEBBC3-170 RemoveThis @storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>...
 > Then shift from neutral to drive, instant wheel hop.
 > I loved going to the midnight drags, and watching the high school kids
 > drag race. lots of flying drive shafts, and U-joints. LOL
 >
 > Bob Whiten
 > Wagonmaster
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore</font" target="_blank">http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore</font</a>><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:40 am
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We used to call it 'neutral drop', or for the real abusive....'a reverse
drop'
Reverse drops were cool because you could back into your own burnout smoke
and pretend you were Jack Chrisman, 'Zookeeper John Mulligan' (my all-time
digger driver), or Wild Willie Borsch (My favorite AA/FA driver)...

Just remember to clean the rubber off the lower rear quarter panel...
Jeff (don't ask me why..my temple hurts just remembering that piece of info)
Rice



"1963r2" wrote...
 >I believe the technical term for this technique is called a "neutral
 > slam" - at least that's what we called along Woodward Ave in the early
 > 70's.
 >
 > Not real healthy for the tranny either. Limped home one night in my
 > parents 56 T-Bird after trying to impress a Corvette driving girl with
 > a neutral slam.
 > T-Bird needed a tranny rebuild including torque converter and I was
 > not allowed to drive it again until I was 25.
 >
 > 1963R2
 >
 >
 > zzbob.DeleteThis@webtv.net (Wagonmaster) wrote in message
 > news:<25863-41AEBBC3-170.DeleteThis@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>...
  >> Then shift from neutral to drive, instant wheel hop.
  >> I loved going to the midnight drags, and watching the high school kids
  >> drag race. lots of flying drive shafts, and U-joints. LOL
  >>
  >> Bob Whiten
  >> Wagonmaster
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore</font" target="_blank">http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore</font</a>><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:40 am
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Did that in my Dad's almost new 54 Ford Custom. I was 13. Besides getting
into a whole boat load of trouble, it took me all summer long of mowing
lawns to pay my Dad back for the repair costs. (usually got .75 cents to a
$1 per mow)

One thing for sure, I was in really good shape by the end of the summer
since all I had was a push mower. (That was also the summer I learned how
to sharpen a reel mower --- really really good using only hand tools :<)
--
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"1963r2" <jford RemoveThis @greenbaynet.com> wrote in message
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 > I believe the technical term for this technique is called a "neutral
 > slam" - at least that's what we called along Woodward Ave in the early
 > 70's.
 >
 > Not real healthy for the tranny either. Limped home one night in my
 > parents 56 T-Bird after trying to impress a Corvette driving girl with
 > a neutral slam.
 > T-Bird needed a tranny rebuild including torque converter and I was
 > not allowed to drive it again until I was 25.
 >
 > 1963R2
 >
 >
 > zzbob RemoveThis @webtv.net (Wagonmaster) wrote in message
news:<25863-41AEBBC3-170 RemoveThis @storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>...
  > > Then shift from neutral to drive, instant wheel hop.
  > > I loved going to the midnight drags, and watching the high school kids
  > > drag race. lots of flying drive shafts, and U-joints. LOL
  > >
  > > Bob Whiten
  > > Wagonmaster
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore</font" target="_blank">http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore</font</a>><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:40 pm
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I did a different version of the 'reverse drop' in my first Stude, '62
GT.

Started in low, wound her up and then I shifted to drive and *tried*
to go back to low,so I could hold her in second....but...uh was a bit
excited and dropped her into reverse instead. Wow, was that ever a
tire smoking, squealing, bit of excitement!

My next thought was ( hey I was 18 at the time, and GTs weren't that
valuable yet), leave it in reverse and see what would happen.

Damned if the old gal didn't slow down, stop, and then start backing
up! Worked good in all the forward gears as well! I did turn the
Maypop tires into Gonnapops though.

Never did have a problem with that Flight-O-Matic, even after that.
..






On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:29:01 GMT, "Jeff Rice"
<DEEPNHOCKnospahm.RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

 >We used to call it 'neutral drop', or for the real abusive....'a reverse
 >drop'
 >Reverse drops were cool because you could back into your own burnout smoke
 >and pretend you were Jack Chrisman, 'Zookeeper John Mulligan' (my all-time
 >digger driver), or Wild Willie Borsch (My favorite AA/FA driver)...
 >
 >Just remember to clean the rubber off the lower rear quarter panel...
 >Jeff (don't ask me why..my temple hurts just remembering that piece of info)
 >Rice
 >
 >
 >
 >"1963r2" wrote...
  >>I believe the technical term for this technique is called a "neutral
  >> slam" - at least that's what we called along Woodward Ave in the early
  >> 70's.
  >>
  >> Not real healthy for the tranny either. Limped home one night in my
  >> parents 56 T-Bird after trying to impress a Corvette driving girl with
  >> a neutral slam.
  >> T-Bird needed a tranny rebuild including torque converter and I was
  >> not allowed to drive it again until I was 25.
  >>
  >> 1963R2
  >>
  >>
  >> zzbob.RemoveThis@webtv.net (Wagonmaster) wrote in message
  >> news:<25863-41AEBBC3-170.RemoveThis@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net>...
   >>> Then shift from neutral to drive, instant wheel hop.
   >>> I loved going to the midnight drags, and watching the high school kids
   >>> drag race. lots of flying drive shafts, and U-joints. LOL
   >>>
   >>> Bob Whiten
   >>> Wagonmaster
   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore" target="_blank">http://community.webtv.net/zzbob/StudebakersandMore</a>
 >

Ron/Champ 6

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1962 Lark Daytona Convertible (Boomerang)
1995 VW Passat (Vanilla..yuk)
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:48 am
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This reminds me of a story...

But then most things do.

At the high school I went to one of the students tried this reverse
drop one day with a Ambassador station wagon.
Why?
I wondered that myself as I thought, "Does your mom know what you're
doing to her car?" My same thought when the kid drove through Burger
King's parking lot with the four door Torino with chrome wheels and a
hood scoop.
Anyway he was backingup and hit drive... The tires started wailing
and the rubber was flying... and then...
Yup, you guessed it... THUMP THUMP THUMP goes the drive shaft.

Growing up in the country gave us an odd look at the high school
parking lot. There was "Bear" Shagla in his '53 Buick, Ed Ostrowski
with his Pontiac Hearse along with a 70 Chevy Dump Truck, Bronco rag
top, a 67 Ranchero w/ 427 (too cool) and othe rassorted oddball
vehicles. Oh yeah and on the way you would pass Will Weatherby driving
his 8N Ford tractod to school. One girl even used to ride her horse to
school. Guess that's what happens when your school is surrounded by
cow pastures.
Me? Well the folks didn't like me driving to school much so it was
usually the bus. But when I did it was the 125 dollar '68 GTO I had
just fixed up.
I did have a Stude at the time, it just wasn't road worthy or I
would have driven it.

Steve Grant
a.k.a. the Madd Doodler

get your 2005 Studebaker calendar now!

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:40 pm
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Slightly off topic as far as car make but my first car was a '64 Impala SS
327 w/powerglide.Got it at age 15.Studied the owners manual whch stated in
bold letters DO NOT attempt to manualy shift vehicle from drive to low under
acceleration at speeds in excess of 35 mph.Turned 16 and rolled out the
black on black SS with new Cragers all around and off to town I went.Cruised
for a bit and headed the 7 miles home.Thought about that passage in the
owners manual and slowed the car down until the speedo read just a hair
under 35 and pulled back the console shifter while my right foot slammed
down.

The car stopped immediately,there was a very loud crunching noise,and when I
looked underneath it looked like the entire trans guts were scattered on the
road.
Guess the manual was right<G>

Bob40
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:40 pm
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 > Anyway he was backingup and hit drive... The tires started wailing
 >and the rubber was flying... and then...
 > Yup, you guessed it... THUMP THUMP THUMP goes the drive shaft.

In 1961, at the service station that I was running, I made two nice stripes in
the parking lot with my '57 Pres, Classic with TT. My friend decides that he is
going to cross them to make a tic toe toe pattern. He didn't get very far with
a (IIRC) '54 Packard Pacific. A rear axle broke. He got a new axle shaft in a
junk yard and replaced it in the parking lot. He was driving his parents' car
and they never new. I was driving my own car.

One time going down a state highway in (IIRC) a '56 Mercury, I discovered no
brakes when someone pulled out of a side road. I threw it in reverse and
gassed the engine at the same time. No accident, just a lot of noise and tire
smoke. Of course, ratcheting reverse and split brake systems eliminated this
sort of thing.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:40 pm
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"Studegary" <studegary.TakeThisOut@aol.comjunkbloc> wrote in message
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 > One time going down a state highway in (IIRC) a '56 Mercury, I discovered
 > no
 > brakes when someone pulled out of a side road. I threw it in reverse and
 > gassed the engine at the same time. No accident, just a lot of noise and
 > tire
 > smoke. Of course, ratcheting reverse and split brake systems eliminated
 > this
 > sort of thing.
 >
I had two reverse engagements while moving forward at fairly high speed.
The first was accidental. I was driving my folk's '55 Dodge station wagon
with the Powerflight lever on the dash. I had run it up to about 55 in Low
(only a two-speed tranny). I gave the lever a flip toward Drive only to see
the lever move on past High and into Reverse. There was a tremendous crash
and the accelerator dropped to the floor. I stopped and eventually worked
up enough nerve to see what had happened. As it turned out, the jolt had
knocked the throttle linkage loose. I put it back on, started the engine
and gingerly moved the lever to Drive. It moved out as if nothing had
happened. I turned around and went home (but I didn't tell my folks). The
tranny never gave any trouble the rest of the time they had the car. The
second time was on purpose (sort of like Gary's story). I was driving my
'61 Cruiser toward Providence, RI in heavy traffic. Suddenly in my lane
there was a jagged piece of sheet metal in the road. I straddled it, but
didn't clear it. It made a heck of a racket, but didn't seem to be a
problem. That is, no problem until I was going down a hill with a red light
at the bottom. I had five other people in the car with me- no brakes at
all. I pulled on to the shoulder and jerked the car in to Reverse. Again,
lots of noise, then sliding sounds, but I came to a safe stop. Again, the
tranny was non the worse for wear. That piece of sheet metal had hit the
inside of my left rear wheel and smashed the brake cylinder loose from the
line. I traded the car three years later with 65,000 miles and the
Flightomatic was still working perfectly.
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