chip for 2005 300C Hemi?

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 02:18:31 +0000, Ritz wrote:

 > A friend of mine was just given (yes, GIVEN) a new 300C Hemi. I haven't
 > paid much attention to Chrysler since I sold my 300M, but he's asked me
 > if anyone produces a "chip" for the '05 hemi.
 >
 > If anyone has a lead on non-vaporware companies with performance-tuned
 > chips for this car/engine, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
 >
 > Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
 > were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.

What do you mean by normally aspirated? The term usually applies to a
carburated engine, nobody makes a carburated engine anymore except for
lawn mowers.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

Daniel J. Stern wrote:
 > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Ritz wrote:
 >
 >
  >>A friend of mine was just given (yes, GIVEN) a new 300C Hemi. I haven't
  >>paid much attention to Chrysler since I sold my 300M, but he's asked me
  >>if anyone produces a "chip" for the '05 hemi. If anyone has a lead on
  >>non-vaporware companies with performance-tuned chips for this
  >>car/engine, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
 >
 >
 > Yeah, because the 300C Hemi is *so* lacking in performance from the
 > factory.
 >
 >
  >>Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
  >>were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.
 >
 >
 > Your buddy is an idiot in need of a clue.


Thanks for the completely unhelpful response. A simple "no" would have
sufficed.

C<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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General Schvantzkoph wrote:
 > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 02:18:31 +0000, Ritz wrote:
 >
 >
  >>A friend of mine was just given (yes, GIVEN) a new 300C Hemi. I haven't
  >>paid much attention to Chrysler since I sold my 300M, but he's asked me
  >>if anyone produces a "chip" for the '05 hemi.
  >>
  >>If anyone has a lead on non-vaporware companies with performance-tuned
  >>chips for this car/engine, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
  >>
  >>Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
  >>were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.
 >
 >
 > What do you mean by normally aspirated? The term usually applies to a
 > carburated engine, nobody makes a carburated engine anymore except for
 > lawn mowers.

Actually, no. The term applies to engines that don't use forced
induction (turbo or supercharging).

Wow, 2 completely non-helpful responses. I'm on a roll.

Cheers,

C<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

"Ritz" <ritz DeleteThis @mordor.net> wrote in message
news:Dtwnd.24343$hc5.12537263@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
| General Schvantzkoph wrote:
| > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 02:18:31 +0000, Ritz wrote:
| >
| >
| >>A friend of mine was just given (yes, GIVEN) a new 300C Hemi. I haven't
| >>paid much attention to Chrysler since I sold my 300M, but he's asked me
| >>if anyone produces a "chip" for the '05 hemi.
| >>
| >>If anyone has a lead on non-vaporware companies with performance-tuned
| >>chips for this car/engine, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
| >>
| >>Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
| >>were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.
| >
| >
| > What do you mean by normally aspirated? The term usually applies to a
| > carburated engine, nobody makes a carburated engine anymore except for
| > lawn mowers.
|
| Actually, no. The term applies to engines that don't use forced
| induction (turbo or supercharging).
|
| Wow, 2 completely non-helpful responses. I'm on a roll.
|
| Cheers,
|
| C

My recommendation is to leave the car as it is. It's performance is top notch
already and why mess with voiding the manufacturers warranty by doing
unnecessary modifications?
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

James C. Reeves wrote:
 >
 > My recommendation is to leave the car as it is. It's performance is top notch
 > already and why mess with voiding the manufacturers warranty by doing
 > unnecessary modifications?

That's my advice too, but it's not my car. So I agreed to help my
friend by asking some questions online. I drove it a couple of days ago
for the first time and thought it was *plenty* fast.

Cheers,

C<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Ritz wrote:

 > Thanks for the completely unhelpful response. A simple "no" would have
 > sufficed.

I prefer my "no"s to be fancy.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, General Schvantzkoph wrote:

  > > Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
  > > were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.
 >
 > What do you mean by normally aspirated? The term usually applies to a
 > carburated engine, nobody makes a carburated engine anymore except for
 > lawn mowers.

No, "Normally aspirated" is a term that does not refer in any way to the
fuel delivery system. It simply means there is no forced induction device
(supercharger or turbocharger).<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Ritz wrote:

  > > My recommendation is to leave the car as it is. It's performance is
  > > top notch already and why mess with voiding the manufacturers warranty
  > > by doing unnecessary modifications?

 > That's my advice too, but it's not my car. So I agreed to help my
 > friend by asking some questions online.

The most helpful thing you can do for your friend is to pass along --
verbatim -- the responses you're (he's) getting.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

I would recommend that instead of trying to add power to the engine, he
concentrates on reducing weight. Replace the tires with flat resistent ones
and dump the spare tire. If he is the only one in the car, remove a few
bolts and take out the extra seats. The door panels could also be removed
and thereby exposing the window motors which are quite heavy. Glue the
windows in place (that was standard feature on earyl 300M's) and remove the
window motors and regulators. If he is really serious, the ac and radio has
got to go.


"Ritz" <ritz DeleteThis @mordor.net> wrote in message
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 > James C. Reeves wrote:
  >>
  >> My recommendation is to leave the car as it is. It's performance is top
  >> notch already and why mess with voiding the manufacturers warranty by
  >> doing unnecessary modifications?
 >
 > That's my advice too, but it's not my car. So I agreed to help my friend
 > by asking some questions online. I drove it a couple of days ago for the
 > first time and thought it was *plenty* fast.
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > C<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

"Ritz" <ritz.RemoveThis@mordor.net> wrote in message
news:XDTmd.13002$hc5.6237540@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
 > A friend of mine was just given (yes, GIVEN) a new 300C Hemi. I haven't
 > paid much attention to Chrysler since I sold my 300M, but he's asked me
 > if anyone produces a "chip" for the '05 hemi.
 >
 > If anyone has a lead on non-vaporware companies with performance-tuned
 > chips for this car/engine, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
 >
 > Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
 > were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.
 >
 > Any info would be greatly appreciated.
 >
 > Cheers,

These guys make one for the Hemi Ram, it's just a matter of time before they
show up for the 300c.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.jetchip.com/" target="_blank">http://www.jetchip.com/</a>

These cars do have great power, but more is always better. By the way
you're better off googling than asking about power chips on Usenet as you
can see by the helpful advice you've gotten so far.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

"Rick Blaine" <CafeAmericana.TakeThisOut@Casablanca.Ma> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Ritz" <ritz.TakeThisOut@mordor.net> wrote in message
 > news:XDTmd.13002$hc5.6237540@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
  > > A friend of mine was just given (yes, GIVEN) a new 300C Hemi. I haven't
  > > paid much attention to Chrysler since I sold my 300M, but he's asked me
  > > if anyone produces a "chip" for the '05 hemi.
  > >
  > > If anyone has a lead on non-vaporware companies with performance-tuned
  > > chips for this car/engine, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
  > >
  > > Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
  > > were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.
  > >
  > > Any info would be greatly appreciated.
  > >
  > > Cheers,
 >
 > These guys make one for the Hemi Ram, it's just a matter of time before
they
 > show up for the 300c.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.jetchip.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.jetchip.com/</font</a>>
 >
 > These cars do have great power, but more is always better. By the way
 > you're better off googling than asking about power chips on Usenet as you
 > can see by the helpful advice you've gotten so far.
 >

No, actually your not better off.

If you google all you get is the chip manufacturers sales literature which
"proves" that if you drop $500 into their chip that your car will run like
greased lighting with a 50% improvement, sip gas like it's the last tankful
it will ever see, and quadruple the longtivity of your vehicle so that your
grandchildren will still be driving it.

If you ask here on Usenet where you will find people who DON'T have
a vested interest in these chips, you will get the truth which is they do
absolutely nothing that can be measured on a dyno, in return for emptying
your wallet.

The only time chipping a car does anything is if you have a turbocharger
and the chip you put in allows you to increase boost past the computer's
preprogrammed limit. Of course your turbo won't last longer than a
$5 whore on the docks when the ships come in, but if you know how to
increase boost in a turbo you probably know this too.

Ted<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi? 

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 > "Rick Blaine" <CafeAmericana.DeleteThis@Casablanca.Ma> wrote in message
 > news:QTAnd.282977$%k.34533@pd7tw2no...
 >
  >>"Ritz" <ritz.DeleteThis@mordor.net> wrote in message
  >>news:XDTmd.13002$hc5.6237540@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
  >>
   >>>A friend of mine was just given (yes, GIVEN) a new 300C Hemi. I haven't
   >>>paid much attention to Chrysler since I sold my 300M, but he's asked me
   >>>if anyone produces a "chip" for the '05 hemi.
   >>>
   >>>If anyone has a lead on non-vaporware companies with performance-tuned
   >>>chips for this car/engine, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
   >>>
   >>>Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
   >>>were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.
   >>>
   >>>Any info would be greatly appreciated.
   >>>
   >>>Cheers,
  >>
  >>These guys make one for the Hemi Ram, it's just a matter of time before
 >
 > they
 >
  >>show up for the 300c.
  >>
  >>http://www.jetchip.com/
  >>
  >>These cars do have great power, but more is always better. By the way
  >>you're better off googling than asking about power chips on Usenet as you
  >>can see by the helpful advice you've gotten so far.
  >>
 >
 >
 > No, actually your not better off.
 >
 > If you google all you get is the chip manufacturers sales literature which
 > "proves" that if you drop $500 into their chip that your car will run like
 > greased lighting with a 50% improvement, sip gas like it's the last tankful
 > it will ever see, and quadruple the longtivity of your vehicle so that your
 > grandchildren will still be driving it.
 >
 > If you ask here on Usenet where you will find people who DON'T have
 > a vested interest in these chips, you will get the truth which is they do
 > absolutely nothing that can be measured on a dyno, in return for emptying
 > your wallet.
 >
 > The only time chipping a car does anything is if you have a turbocharger
 > and the chip you put in allows you to increase boost past the computer's
 > preprogrammed limit. Of course your turbo won't last longer than a
 > $5 whore on the docks when the ships come in, but if you know how to
 > increase boost in a turbo you probably know this too.

I think you've sent a new record for the amount of missinformation in
one post. The performance chips can make some improvement in normally
aspirated vehicles, especially those with auto trannies. They can
modify spark timing, fuel maps and shift points and this can all
increase performance, but at the expense of something else, typically
fuel economy.

And increasing the boost in a turbocharged engine isn't much harder on
the turbo, it is the engine internals that take most of the grief.

I'll take your word on the whore, I have no experience there.


Matt<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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i have heard there is some stuff on the way the new n.g.c software is playing
hell with the programers

Ritz wrote:

 > Daniel J. Stern wrote:
  > > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Ritz wrote:
  > >
  > >
   > >>A friend of mine was just given (yes, GIVEN) a new 300C Hemi. I haven't
   > >>paid much attention to Chrysler since I sold my 300M, but he's asked me
   > >>if anyone produces a "chip" for the '05 hemi. If anyone has a lead on
   > >>non-vaporware companies with performance-tuned chips for this
   > >>car/engine, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
  > >
  > >
  > > Yeah, because the 300C Hemi is *so* lacking in performance from the
  > > factory.
  > >
  > >
   > >>Personally, for normally aspirated engines, I always thought that chips
   > >>were rather useless, but my buddy insists that he wants to do this.
  > >
  > >
  > > Your buddy is an idiot in need of a clue.
 >
 > Thanks for the completely unhelpful response. A simple "no" would have
 > sufficed.
 >
 > C<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: chip for 2005 300C Hemi?