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nobody

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Since: Jul 16, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:43 am
Post subject: air conditioning
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Car: Camry 4-cycl, 1994.

I had it refilled last summer and I was surprised that it stopped working
earlier this month. I'm not sure if it's out of refrigerant again, leaked,
or something else is broken. Are there a few steps to diagnose the
problem. When I turn on the air, I can hear different noise like it would
sound when working but just no cold air out. Is it possible that it wasn't
filled correctly that it was out of it sooner than it should?

Thanks for the help,

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mred

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:43 am
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On Jul 15, 11:43 pm, nobody <spamfreeDeleteThis....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Car: Camry 4-cycl, 1994.
>
> I had it refilled last summer and I was surprised that it stopped working
> earlier this month. I'm not sure if it's out of refrigerant again, leaked,
> or something else is broken. Are there a few steps to diagnose the
> problem. When I turn on the air, I can hear different noise like it would
> sound when working but just no cold air out. Is it possible that it wasn't
> filled correctly that it was out of it sooner than it should?
>
> Thanks for the help,

With a car that old it sounds like a leak to me .

They should have put in refrigerant with a dye in it so they can tell
where it is leaking , with ultra-violet light.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:05 am
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On Jul 16, 7:43 am, mred <m....DeleteThis@295.ca> wrote:
>
> With a car that old it sounds like a leak to me .
>
> They should have put in refrigerant with a dye in it so they can tell
> where it is leaking , with ultra-violet light.

Thanks for the suggestion. How long can refrigerant last at regular
use? I didn't have to refill until last year.
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johngdole

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:14 pm
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Do you see bubbles in the sight glass on the drier can?

Like old struts and speakers, by the time you felt it it was bad
enough. These systems typically leak about 0.5 to 1 oz every year. And
that's considered new and "completely sealed." Good thing parts stores
carry $20 all-in-one gauged cans. It's a rough ball-park method so
don't over charge it.

www.id-usa.com

Depending on the system a small recharge every 3-4 years should help.
But if it leaked out since last summer then you probably have a big
leak than 0.5-1 oz/year Wink Wink Wink



On Jul 16, 6:05 am, cpliu <spamfree....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for the suggestion. How long can refrigerant last at regular
> use? I didn't have to refill until last year.
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Ralph Mowery

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:53 pm
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"cpliu" <spamfreeliu.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 7:43 am, mred <m....RemoveThis@295.ca> wrote:
>
> With a car that old it sounds like a leak to me .
>
> They should have put in refrigerant with a dye in it so they can tell
> where it is leaking , with ultra-violet light.

>>Thanks for the suggestion. How long can refrigerant >>last at regular
>>use? I didn't have to refill until last year.

The refrigerant will last forever. It is not used. but just changes from
liquid to gas and back again. It is not like oil and never needs changing.
It can leak out and you have to add more. If it leaks out quickly, then
find the leak.


I had a new1991 Camry with over 190,000 on it when I sold it in 2007 and
never had anything done to the airconditioner and it cooled the car fine in
90+ deg heat.
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FR

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:10 pm
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On Jul 15, 11:43 pm, nobody <spamfreeDeleteThis....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Car: Camry 4-cycl, 1994.
>
> I had it refilled last summer and I was surprised that it stopped working
> earlier this month. I'm not sure if it's out of refrigerant again, leaked,
> or something else is broken. Are there a few steps to diagnose the
> problem. When I turn on the air, I can hear different noise like it would
> sound when working but just no cold air out. Is it possible that it wasn't
> filled correctly that it was out of it sooner than it should?
>
> Thanks for the help,

I had to replace the expansion valve and seals in my 92 Camry.

The expansion valve o-rings were leaking and you cannot see this as the
expansion valve is enclosed in the expansion coil air box.
I was told this was a common problem with Camrys.

I bought a seal kit and expansion valve at Advance Autoparts and tore into
the dash. Took me about 8 hours.
Replaced the freon and it cools very well now. No more leaks!

It is such a pain in the ass to take apart the dash be sure to have all
replacement parts for reassembly.

Good luck!
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johngdole

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:32 pm
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Sure, there was a recall of expansion valves in all Toyotas of early
1990s. The defective expansion valves corroded and let refrigerant
out. I would think by 94 these were fixed. Maybe not.

SSCP01 JUN 93 Campaign - A/C Expansion Valve

Most owners would probably think that their ACs were just weak after a
while and needed a recharge, instead they were driving around with
defective expansion valves!




On Jul 18, 6:10 pm, "FR" <4bor... RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> I had to replace the expansion valve and seals in my 92 Camry.
>
> The expansion valve o-rings were leaking and you cannot see this as the
> expansion valve is enclosed in the expansion coil air box.
> I was told this was a common problem with Camrys.
>
> I bought a seal kit and expansion valve at Advance Autoparts and tore into
> the dash. Took me about 8 hours.
> Replaced the freon and it cools very well now. No more leaks!
>
> It is such a pain in the ass to take apart the dash be sure to have all
> replacement parts for reassembly.
>
> Good luck!
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whitefamily1

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:08 am
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On Jul 16, 1:43 pm, nobody <spamfreeDeleteThis... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Car: Camry 4-cycl, 1994.
>
> I had it refilled last summer and I was surprised that it stopped working
> earlier this month. I'm not sure if it's out of refrigerant again, leaked,
> or something else is broken. Are there a few steps to diagnose the
> problem. When I turn on the air, I can hear different noise like it would
> sound when working but just no cold air out. Is it possible that it wasn't
> filled correctly that it was out of it sooner than it should?
>
> Thanks for the help,

Have a look at your sight glass, located on the receiver/drier, to
see how the refrigerant charge is holding up, as in

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dskuSNzpQ0s&feature=related

If it has a foamy or streaky look, the refrigerant is low.
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I'm Right

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Since: May 22, 2008
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:57 pm
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AC Refrigerent (freon) lasts 1,000's of yeras. Barney rubble still has his
original freon, because his AC doesn't leak
YOU have a leak.


"cpliu" <spamfreeliu DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 7:43 am, mred <m... DeleteThis @295.ca> wrote:
>
> With a car that old it sounds like a leak to me .
>
> They should have put in refrigerant with a dye in it so they can tell
> where it is leaking , with ultra-violet light.

Thanks for the suggestion. How long can refrigerant last at regular
use? I didn't have to refill until last year.
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