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Since: Jan 03, 2004 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 2:37 pm
Post subject: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket Archived from groups: rec>autos>makers>vw>watercooled (more info?)
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Hello,
I recently did some work on my coolant system (replacing a hose and the
thermostat, cleaning out the rear heat exchanger, new hose clamps, etc.)
on my 1983 VW Vanagon with a 1985 1.9L engine. After one failed
bleeding of the coolant system (tried to do it by myself), I finally got
the system bled properly and it seemed to be running quite well and at a
lower temp than before. However, it now seems that I am leaking coolant
out of my head gaskets, primarily the driver's side, but Ive also seen a
drop hanging off the passenger side, and I can smell vaporized coolant
when I park after driving for long enough. I do not believe it is
leaking into the cylinder, as I do not see any white smoke out the
exhaust or have any starting problems. I am and always have used
phosphate-free coolant.
I have had a similar problem before when I had my thermostat replaced
which resulted in a massive coolant leak out of the head gasket while
~100 miles from home. After getting the head gaskets replaced, the van
ran slightly hot but with no leaks. Fortunately this time I identified
the leak before leaving town. Now I am wondering whether I should just
attempt to tighten down the head bolts or go ahead with a full gasket
replacement. I expect either way this is either going to be tedious
(if I do it myself in the nice, cold, midwest winter weather) or
expensive (if I take it to a shop). I have been interested in expanding
my repair skill set into more engine work, but Im not sure if now is the
best time for it. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.
aloha
Mike Braden >> Stay informed about: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket |
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Since: Sep 07, 2004 Posts: 378
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Tightening the heads will do nothing to fix your problem! What you will find
is the heads are pitted where the big black rubber gaskets go around the
heads. Depending how bad the pits are will determine if you need to replace
the heads or not. Usually once repaired it should last about 50,000 miles
before the problem happens again. If you never had the "water boxer" engine
apart before you may be in for some real headaches!
"Mike Braden" <mbraden.RemoveThis@pnhs.purdue.edu> wrote in message
news:bt71d9$fng$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu...
> Hello,
>
> I recently did some work on my coolant system (replacing a hose and the
> thermostat, cleaning out the rear heat exchanger, new hose clamps, etc.)
> on my 1983 VW Vanagon with a 1985 1.9L engine. After one failed
> bleeding of the coolant system (tried to do it by myself), I finally got
> the system bled properly and it seemed to be running quite well and at a
> lower temp than before. However, it now seems that I am leaking coolant
> out of my head gaskets, primarily the driver's side, but Ive also seen a
> drop hanging off the passenger side, and I can smell vaporized coolant
> when I park after driving for long enough. I do not believe it is
> leaking into the cylinder, as I do not see any white smoke out the
> exhaust or have any starting problems. I am and always have used
> phosphate-free coolant.
>
> I have had a similar problem before when I had my thermostat replaced
> which resulted in a massive coolant leak out of the head gasket while
> ~100 miles from home. After getting the head gaskets replaced, the van
> ran slightly hot but with no leaks. Fortunately this time I identified
> the leak before leaving town. Now I am wondering whether I should just
> attempt to tighten down the head bolts or go ahead with a full gasket
> replacement. I expect either way this is either going to be tedious
> (if I do it myself in the nice, cold, midwest winter weather) or
> expensive (if I take it to a shop). I have been interested in expanding
> my repair skill set into more engine work, but Im not sure if now is the
> best time for it. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> aloha
> Mike Braden<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Since: Jul 22, 2003 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:45 am
Post subject: Re: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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This problem happens to all water cooled vans. My dad just had his heads
replaced after about 75000 miles on his camper. If you want, there are about 2
companies out of california that sell kits, with or without engine, to convert
to a rabbit motor. Extreme perhaps, but something to consider. >> Stay informed about: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I have had the heads replaced less than 50000 miles ago (more like 5000
miles ago). So you are suggesting that I should at least remove the
heads and inspect them. I guess I should go buy a space heater so I
can have this done before spring....
Thanks,
Mike
Woodchuck wrote:
> Tightening the heads will do nothing to fix your problem! What you will find
> is the heads are pitted where the big black rubber gaskets go around the
> heads. Depending how bad the pits are will determine if you need to replace
> the heads or not. Usually once repaired it should last about 50,000 miles
> before the problem happens again. If you never had the "water boxer" engine
> apart before you may be in for some real headaches!
>
> "Mike Braden" <mbraden.DeleteThis@pnhs.purdue.edu> wrote in message
> news:bt71d9$fng$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu...
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I recently did some work on my coolant system (replacing a hose and the
>>thermostat, cleaning out the rear heat exchanger, new hose clamps, etc.)
>>on my 1983 VW Vanagon with a 1985 1.9L engine. After one failed
>>bleeding of the coolant system (tried to do it by myself), I finally got
>>the system bled properly and it seemed to be running quite well and at a
>>lower temp than before. However, it now seems that I am leaking coolant
>>out of my head gaskets, primarily the driver's side, but Ive also seen a
>>drop hanging off the passenger side, and I can smell vaporized coolant
>>when I park after driving for long enough. I do not believe it is
>>leaking into the cylinder, as I do not see any white smoke out the
>>exhaust or have any starting problems. I am and always have used
>>phosphate-free coolant.
>>
>>I have had a similar problem before when I had my thermostat replaced
>>which resulted in a massive coolant leak out of the head gasket while
>>~100 miles from home. After getting the head gaskets replaced, the van
>>ran slightly hot but with no leaks. Fortunately this time I identified
>>the leak before leaving town. Now I am wondering whether I should just
>>attempt to tighten down the head bolts or go ahead with a full gasket
>>replacement. I expect either way this is either going to be tedious
>>(if I do it myself in the nice, cold, midwest winter weather) or
>>expensive (if I take it to a shop). I have been interested in expanding
>>my repair skill set into more engine work, but Im not sure if now is the
>>best time for it. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>aloha
>>Mike Braden
>
>
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Since: Sep 07, 2004 Posts: 378
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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If the repair was done correctly is should last longer than 5K! Who did
them? Might be able to offer some hints after it's apart.
"Mike Braden" <mbraden DeleteThis @pnhs.purdue.edu> wrote in message
news:btc265$akg$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu...
> I have had the heads replaced less than 50000 miles ago (more like 5000
> miles ago). So you are suggesting that I should at least remove the
> heads and inspect them. I guess I should go buy a space heater so I
> can have this done before spring....
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Woodchuck wrote:
> > Tightening the heads will do nothing to fix your problem! What you will
find
> > is the heads are pitted where the big black rubber gaskets go around the
> > heads. Depending how bad the pits are will determine if you need to
replace
> > the heads or not. Usually once repaired it should last about 50,000
miles
> > before the problem happens again. If you never had the "water boxer"
engine
> > apart before you may be in for some real headaches!
> >
> > "Mike Braden" <mbraden DeleteThis @pnhs.purdue.edu> wrote in message
> > news:bt71d9$fng$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu...
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>I recently did some work on my coolant system (replacing a hose and the
> >>thermostat, cleaning out the rear heat exchanger, new hose clamps, etc.)
> >>on my 1983 VW Vanagon with a 1985 1.9L engine. After one failed
> >>bleeding of the coolant system (tried to do it by myself), I finally got
> >>the system bled properly and it seemed to be running quite well and at a
> >>lower temp than before. However, it now seems that I am leaking coolant
> >>out of my head gaskets, primarily the driver's side, but Ive also seen a
> >>drop hanging off the passenger side, and I can smell vaporized coolant
> >>when I park after driving for long enough. I do not believe it is
> >>leaking into the cylinder, as I do not see any white smoke out the
> >>exhaust or have any starting problems. I am and always have used
> >>phosphate-free coolant.
> >>
> >>I have had a similar problem before when I had my thermostat replaced
> >>which resulted in a massive coolant leak out of the head gasket while
> >>~100 miles from home. After getting the head gaskets replaced, the van
> >>ran slightly hot but with no leaks. Fortunately this time I identified
> >>the leak before leaving town. Now I am wondering whether I should just
> >>attempt to tighten down the head bolts or go ahead with a full gasket
> >>replacement. I expect either way this is either going to be tedious
> >>(if I do it myself in the nice, cold, midwest winter weather) or
> >>expensive (if I take it to a shop). I have been interested in expanding
> >>my repair skill set into more engine work, but Im not sure if now is the
> >>best time for it. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >>aloha
> >>Mike Braden
> >
> >
> ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Need advice on '83 Van leaking head gasket |
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