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(Msg. 46) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:55 pm
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jdoe schrieb:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:53:45 -0700, RF <jvhealey.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>> But you take crude oil from the North Sea and
>> refine it, don't you?
> when are you guys going to get it? the differences in the price of
> fuel is not caused by differences in the price of oil, oil costs the
> same for all countries that import oil, the differences in prices is
> caused by government imposed taxes on fuel, norway has a huge social
> service, womb to tomb care, free education all funded by taxes on fuel
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> Never argue with an idiot.
> They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
With an rate of inflation of 2% pa, after 50 years the oil price today
has to be (1+1/50)^50=e=2.7 times that of 1958.
In Germany its up from 0.40 EUR/litre in 1960 to 1.45 today. The real
problem is this: The USD lost value from 1 USD = 2.20 EUR in 1960 down
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:55 pm
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Roland Franzius turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
> jdoe schrieb:
>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:53:45 -0700, RF <jvhealey.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>> But you take crude oil from the North Sea and
>>> refine it, don't you?
>> when are you guys going to get it? the differences in the price of
>> fuel is not caused by differences in the price of oil, oil costs the
>> same for all countries that import oil, the differences in prices is
>> caused by government imposed taxes on fuel, norway has a huge social
>> service, womb to tomb care, free education all funded by taxes on fuel
>> __________________________________________
>> Never argue with an idiot.
>> They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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> With an rate of inflation of 2% pa, after 50 years the oil price today
> has to be (1+1/50)^50=e=2.7 times that of 1958.
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> In Germany its up from 0.40 EUR/litre in 1960 to 1.45 today. The real
> problem is this: The USD lost value from 1 USD = 2.20 EUR in 1960 down
> to 1 USD = 0.67 EUR in 2008.
>
Yes, people don't seem to get this. The active US policy is to devalue the
dollar against other currencies.
This has the intended effect of making all imports more expensive, with the
hope that exports will be more favorable.
However, we import some huge percent of our oil, and oil is traded in the
dollar. Since the dollar is devalued, the oil costs more dollars per
barrel.
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:10 pm
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Apparently you think you know everything Trader4. You should learn
manners and the practice of polite discourse, because your rude and
insulting comments only discredit YOU!
You should at least be polite to people from other countries so you
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:27 pm
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:55 pm
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:51 pm
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"trader4@optonline.net" <trader4 RemoveThis @optonline.net> wrote:
>On Apr 30, 11:55 am, Bruce <n... RemoveThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>> RF <R... RemoveThis @NoDen.con> wrote:
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>> >America is not a democracy. The corps and the
>> >fatcats hire lobbyists to make sure it stays that way.
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>> Vote Obama, because he will change all that.
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>> Yeah, right!
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>And I suppose there is no political influence, lobbying, corruption
>etc in the great land of Norway. LOL
Of course there is, but not on anything like the scale of the USA,
where the corporate and Jewish lobbies routinely subvert democracy and
skew foreign policy.
Obama says he wants to change all that. If he does manage some minor
change, I suspect that he will only replace one type of influence with
another. If he did show any signs of achieving real change, one or
two bullets in the head would soon put a stop to that. >> Stay informed about: Yikes! Diesel $4.50/gallon |
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:51 pm
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:27 pm
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(Msg. 54) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:31 pm
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:31 pm
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Klark Kent wrote:
> In message news:3892ecc6-4518-4771-91e9-
> a6d6eeb38aa6.TakeThisOut@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com, "trader4@optonline.net"
> <trader4.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> burned some brain cells writing:
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>> And now your anti-semitic side comes out.
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> Uh, have you been paying attention to the Israeli spy cases? Have you read
> the extraordinarily-detailed "The Lobby" by the Harvard professor Stephen
> Walt and the University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer?
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> Or do you just genuflect "anti-semite" to anyone bold and candid enough to
> publicly state that US foreign policy is horifically and dangerously skewed
> towards the wishes and goals of one particular country, and that country
> ISN'T the US?
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:42 pm
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(Msg. 57) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:05 am
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On Apr 30, 1:51 pm, Bruce <n....RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote:
> Of course there is, but not on anything like the scale of the USA,
> where the corporate and Jewish lobbies routinely subvert democracy and
> skew foreign policy.
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> Obama says he wants to change all that. If he does manage some minor
> change, I suspect that he will only replace one type of influence with
> another. If he did show any signs of achieving real change, one or
> two bullets in the head would soon put a stop to that.
Spoken like a true republican. Religious slander, hate, and violence
abound.
The Republican Party-where hate is a family value. >> Stay informed about: Yikes! Diesel $4.50/gallon |
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:09 am
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I realize that Bruce is not a republican, but this stinks of a
republican view.
> Spoken like a true republican. Religious slander, hate, and violence
> abound.
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> The Republican Party-where hate is a family value. >> Stay informed about: Yikes! Diesel $4.50/gallon |
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:40 am
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On May 1, 8:09 am, "weelli...@gmail.com" <weelli... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> I realize that Bruce is not a republican, but this stinks of a
> republican view.
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> > Spoken like a true republican. Religious slander, hate, and violence
> > abound.
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> > The Republican Party-where hate is a family value.- Hide quoted text -
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Another outrageous and disgusting statement, taking this whole thing
eactly where the likes of Bruce want it to go. I'd like to see
where the Republicans in any significant, sanctioned or organized way
engage in religious slander, hate, or violence. It's simply untrue.
I'm a Republican and found Bruce's statements equally offensive. >> Stay informed about: Yikes! Diesel $4.50/gallon |
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:53 am
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Klark Kent <stewart.TakeThisOut@copeland.com`> wrote:
>In message news:3892ecc6-4518-4771-91e9-
>a6d6eeb38aa6@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com, "trader4@optonline.net"
><trader4.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> burned some brain cells writing:
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>> And now your anti-semitic side comes out.
>
>Uh, have you been paying attention to the Israeli spy cases? Have you read
>the extraordinarily-detailed "The Lobby" by the Harvard professor Stephen
>Walt and the University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer?
>
>Or do you just genuflect "anti-semite" to anyone bold and candid enough to
>publicly state that US foreign policy is horifically and dangerously skewed
>towards the wishes and goals of one particular country, and that country
>ISN'T the US?
I couldn't have put it better, Klark. Thank you. >> Stay informed about: Yikes! Diesel $4.50/gallon |
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