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Since: Apr 14, 2005 Posts: 804
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(Msg. 76) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:55 pm
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631grant wrote:
> Yes, but that truck is a diesel used exclusively to deliver product to
> multiple locations making it efficient to operate. It isn't used to haul
> the wife to the mall or the kids to a soccer game or all the other wasteful
> trips that the truck takes during its lifetime.
> Plowing a driveway is a legitimate use but with a year's worth of fuel
> difference between the 17 mpg truck and a 32 mpg car, you could hire someone
> to plow it. Also, I use a 4 wheeler trailer to haul my firewood so I only
> have to pull the trailer a few times a year and not haul the weight of the
> truck the rest of the year. That's something else you see in Europe. They
> have a lot of trailer hitches for just such occasions.
And it is better that someone else plow my driveway with their 17 MPG
truck rather than me plow it with my 18 MPG truck? Sorry, but that
logic isn't logical.
> My reading comprehension is quite good but it just makes me sick to read
> your drivel.......
If you think what I wrote is drivel, then that confirms your lack of
reading comprehension.
You are just too easy and just can't help yourself from responding to
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Since: Dec 14, 2007 Posts: 22
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(Msg. 77) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:55 pm
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Let me tell you about that Prius. I had the "luxury" of renting one this
week in snowy Wyoming. It's definitely NOT a cold weather car. It's that you
can power on the system and start driving right away...however, the little 4
banger takes a long time to warm up. Aside from that, not sure that
America's willing to give up the rush of mashing a throttle in being pushed
back into your seat. The Prius doesn't do that. I would even think of
attempting to pass on a 2 lane highway. The acceleration stinks! Hybrids are
cool, I'm all about the environment, but couldn't Toyota put a little more
zip into this thing? I would utilize it in the lower half of the US and in a
metropolitan city. Maybe the Camry Hyrbid has some power.
The backup camera in reverse was cool though!!!
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2008 Hyundai Sonata SE- His
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee- Hers
1997 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE- Ours
Home for sale in NW AZ near Las Vegas:
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
"Thee Chicago Wolf" <.@.> wrote in message
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> >And nobody needs a Sonata either. What a gas hog when you can ride a
>>bicycle or drive a Prius!
>
> Dude, the 08 4-cyl Sonata gets better gas mileage and has more
> horsepower than my 02. 09 Sonata is supposed to be even better. I am
> hoping my 02 lasts until Hyundai comes out with their Hybrids (2011?
> 2012?).
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Since: Dec 14, 2007 Posts: 22
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(Msg. 78) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:55 pm
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There ya go Hank!!!
I was wondering the same thing!!!
Although, this thread has had me in stitches while on a layover in Denver
back to Vegas...
--
Steve
2008 Hyundai Sonata SE- His
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee- Hers
1997 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE- Ours
Home for sale in NW AZ near Las Vegas:
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
"Hank" <tunez1.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
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> WOW !!!!! has anybody seen the NEW HYUNDAI GENESIS YET ?
>
>
> Hank
>
>
> "Rob" <bucfan11.TakeThisOut@SPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:13qi03q60tjqne0@corp.supernews.com...
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>> "jp103" <jpoinier110522mi.TakeThisOut@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:htOdnZj-08vuLTXanZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Is that a forward, rear or swivel mounted canon? I personally prefer
>>> the forward mounted to clear the left-lane laggards! With a good strong
>>> rear bumper tailgaters won't bother me.
>>>
>>> John
>>> St Peters wrote:
>>>> Yes, it is cool. But it's not big enough or expensive enough for me.
>>>> I'm waiting for Hyundai to move into production their concept car, the
>>>> Hyundai "Tanker". It has tracks instead of tires and sports an
>>>> optional 50mm cannon. That'll piss off the eco-loony Democrats and
>>>> also make the Republicans in the SUV's think twice before they
>>>> tailgate.
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>
>> With all the diesel smoke, no one will tailgate.
>>
>>
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>>>> <bought2bought.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:b50d16a4-c6ea-4230-bd16-2031c69c1510@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai Genesis!
>>>>> Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the Sonata,
>>>>> but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long
>>>>> way!!!
>>>>
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Since: Jan 01, 2005 Posts: 601
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(Msg. 79) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:55 pm
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"631grant" <tjwitman RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> And why did I lose credibility, Rob. Just because you didn't watch it
> either? Sometimes the facts are hard to accept, I know.
>
Lost me too.
No, I did not and will not see Gore's film. Considering his lifestyle and
how he wants the rest of us to live, he is just a blowhard politician
hypocrite. He has zero respect and credibility with me. When he moves into
a 2 bedroom ranch home, give me a call and we'll talk. >> Stay informed about: Wow! How about that new Genesis! |
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Since: Feb 05, 2008 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 80) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:55 pm
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Hey Steve whats up ? Hey just checked out yours craigslist advertizement
just got one question, what the hell are desert-watercraft toys ??? you
forget I live in the desert too and the only water we have comes ouuta the
bubblers for the plants................ not hardly anywheres big enough for
watercraft
Hank
"Steve R." <fixmypc01 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> There ya go Hank!!!
>
> I was wondering the same thing!!!
>
> Although, this thread has had me in stitches while on a layover in Denver
> back to Vegas...
> --
> Steve
>
> 2008 Hyundai Sonata SE- His
> 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee- Hers
> 1997 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE- Ours
>
>
> Home for sale in NW AZ near Las Vegas:
>
> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
>
>
> "Hank" <tunez1 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
> news:MC9qj.42637$Wt7.10161@newsfe14.phx...
>> WOW !!!!! has anybody seen the NEW HYUNDAI GENESIS YET ?
>>
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
>> "Rob" <bucfan11 RemoveThis @SPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:13qi03q60tjqne0@corp.supernews.com...
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>>> "jp103" <jpoinier110522mi RemoveThis @nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:htOdnZj-08vuLTXanZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Is that a forward, rear or swivel mounted canon? I personally prefer
>>>> the forward mounted to clear the left-lane laggards! With a good
>>>> strong rear bumper tailgaters won't bother me.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>> St Peters wrote:
>>>>> Yes, it is cool. But it's not big enough or expensive enough for me.
>>>>> I'm waiting for Hyundai to move into production their concept car, the
>>>>> Hyundai "Tanker". It has tracks instead of tires and sports an
>>>>> optional 50mm cannon. That'll piss off the eco-loony Democrats and
>>>>> also make the Republicans in the SUV's think twice before they
>>>>> tailgate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred
>>>
>>> With all the diesel smoke, no one will tailgate.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <bought2bought RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:b50d16a4-c6ea-4230-bd16-2031c69c1510@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai Genesis!
>>>>>> Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the
>>>>>> Sonata,
>>>>>> but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long
>>>>>> way!!!
>>>>>
>>
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Since: Jan 22, 2008 Posts: 33
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(Msg. 81) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:47 am
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Hi Edwin,
See, people here accused me of wanting them to 'lower' themselves to my
ideals and lifestyle and blasted me royally for it. Now you say that you
don't want anything to do with Gore until he lowers himself to our
lifestyle............. I said 'our lifestyle' because I suspect I am in the
same lifestyle as you and everyone else here. I don't love the man either
but I watched the movie and he sure makes some good points backed up with
scientific data that is very hard to dispute. You owe it to yourself to at
least watch it. It's almost like the Harry Potter fiasco when it was first
introduced. All the religious people were up in arms about its story line
and forbid their children to see the movies but they had never seen them to
pass judgment on them.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp DeleteThis @snet.net> wrote in message
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> "631grant" <tjwitman DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:jIrqj.67860$Mu4.64794@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>> And why did I lose credibility, Rob. Just because you didn't watch it
>> either? Sometimes the facts are hard to accept, I know.
>>
>
> Lost me too.
>
> No, I did not and will not see Gore's film. Considering his lifestyle and
> how he wants the rest of us to live, he is just a blowhard politician
> hypocrite. He has zero respect and credibility with me. When he moves
> into a 2 bedroom ranch home, give me a call and we'll talk.
> >> Stay informed about: Wow! How about that new Genesis! |
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Since: Jan 01, 2005 Posts: 601
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(Msg. 82) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:55 pm
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"631grant" <tjwitman.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Edwin,
>
> See, people here accused me of wanting them to 'lower' themselves to my
> ideals and lifestyle and blasted me royally for it. Now you say that you
> don't want anything to do with Gore until he lowers himself to our
> lifestyle............. I said 'our lifestyle' because I suspect I am in
> the same lifestyle as you and everyone else here.
I'm not asking anyone to "lower" themself. Material goods, be it a huge
house, big cars, or fancy computer does not have anything to do with the
character of an individual. I think I'm moraly superior to someone that
preaches one thing but actually acts in a different manner.
I don't love the man either
> but I watched the movie and he sure makes some good points backed up with
> scientific data that is very hard to dispute. You owe it to yourself to
> at least watch it. It's almost like the Harry Potter fiasco when it was
> first introduced. All the religious people were up in arms about its
> story line and forbid their children to see the movies but they had never
> seen them to pass judgment on them.
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp.TakeThisOut@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:zquqj.7786$Ch6.6429@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net
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>> "631grant" <tjwitman.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:jIrqj.67860$Mu4.64794@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>> And why did I lose credibility, Rob. Just because you didn't watch it
>>> either? Sometimes the facts are hard to accept, I know.
>>>
>>
>> Lost me too.
>>
>> No, I did not and will not see Gore's film. Considering his lifestyle
>> and how he wants the rest of us to live, he is just a blowhard politician
>> hypocrite. He has zero respect and credibility with me. When he moves
>> into a 2 bedroom ranch home, give me a call and we'll talk.
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Wow! How about that new Genesis! |
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(Msg. 83) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:55 pm
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I hit the send button before I was finished.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp DeleteThis @snet.net> wrote in message
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> "631grant" <tjwitman DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:KKFqj.20461$1f.14202@bignews9.bellsouth.net...
>> Hi Edwin,
>>
>> See, people here accused me of wanting them to 'lower' themselves to my
>> ideals and lifestyle and blasted me royally for it. Now you say that you
>> don't want anything to do with Gore until he lowers himself to our
>> lifestyle............. I said 'our lifestyle' because I suspect I am in
>> the same lifestyle as you and everyone else here.
>
I'm not asking anyone to "lower" themselves. Material goods, be it a huge
house, big cars, or fancy computer does not have anything to do with the
character of an individual. I think I'm morally superior to someone that
preaches one thing but actually acts in a different manner.
Gore wants us to reduce our carbon footprint, yet he maintains a house that
is far beyond what sensible people need to live in, uses a privet jet to get
around an justifies it because he makes donation for carbon credits. Sort
of like buying yourself into heaven.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/28/AR2007...801823.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/02/28/an-inconveniently-easy-hea...ne-gore
>
> I don't love the man either
>> but I watched the movie and he sure makes some good points backed up with
>> scientific data that is very hard to dispute. You owe it to yourself to
>> at least watch it.
By spending my money to see what he as done enriches him and gives him
personal credibility. I'm not going to do that, be him right or wrong. >> Stay informed about: Wow! How about that new Genesis! |
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(Msg. 84) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:55 pm
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HAHAHAHA!!
Changed to the lingo to reflect desert and water toys!!!
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Steve
2008 Sonata SE- His
2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
"Hank" <tunez1.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hey Steve whats up ? Hey just checked out yours craigslist advertizement
> just got one question, what the hell are desert-watercraft toys ??? you
> forget I live in the desert too and the only water we have comes ouuta the
> bubblers for the plants................ not hardly anywheres big enough
> for watercraft
>
> Hank
>
>
> "Steve R." <fixmypc01.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a1uqj.3497$Sa1.193@news02.roc.ny...
>> There ya go Hank!!!
>>
>> I was wondering the same thing!!!
>>
>> Although, this thread has had me in stitches while on a layover in Denver
>> back to Vegas...
>> --
>> Steve
>>
>> 2008 Hyundai Sonata SE- His
>> 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee- Hers
>> 1997 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE- Ours
>>
>>
>> Home for sale in NW AZ near Las Vegas:
>>
>> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
>>
>>
>> "Hank" <tunez1.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:MC9qj.42637$Wt7.10161@newsfe14.phx...
>>> WOW !!!!! has anybody seen the NEW HYUNDAI GENESIS YET ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hank
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rob" <bucfan11.TakeThisOut@SPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:13qi03q60tjqne0@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "jp103" <jpoinier110522mi.TakeThisOut@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:htOdnZj-08vuLTXanZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> Is that a forward, rear or swivel mounted canon? I personally prefer
>>>>> the forward mounted to clear the left-lane laggards! With a good
>>>>> strong rear bumper tailgaters won't bother me.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>> St Peters wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, it is cool. But it's not big enough or expensive enough for me.
>>>>>> I'm waiting for Hyundai to move into production their concept car,
>>>>>> the Hyundai "Tanker". It has tracks instead of tires and sports an
>>>>>> optional 50mm cannon. That'll piss off the eco-loony Democrats and
>>>>>> also make the Republicans in the SUV's think twice before they
>>>>>> tailgate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>> With all the diesel smoke, no one will tailgate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <bought2bought.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:b50d16a4-c6ea-4230-bd16-2031c69c1510@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Just saw a commercial during the Super Bowl for the Hyundai Genesis!
>>>>>>> Too bad i can't afford to buy one, so i have to settle for the
>>>>>>> Sonata,
>>>>>>> but that Genesis is a beauty!! Hyundai has come a long long long
>>>>>>> way!!!
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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(Msg. 85) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:15 pm
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(Msg. 86) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:11 pm
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I reply to you, Matt, because I've read many of your comments over time and
you seem to be knowledgeable; therefore, I still have some hope that you can
'see the light'.  ) It's always healthy to debate both sides of a
dilemna.
"Matt Whiting" <whiting.TakeThisOut@epix.net> wrote in message
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> 631grant wrote:
>> Yes, but that truck is a diesel used exclusively to deliver product to
>> multiple locations making it efficient to operate. It isn't used to haul
>> the wife to the mall or the kids to a soccer game or all the other
>> wasteful trips that the truck takes during its lifetime.
>> Plowing a driveway is a legitimate use but with a year's worth of fuel
>> difference between the 17 mpg truck and a 32 mpg car, you could hire
>> someone to plow it. Also, I use a 4 wheeler trailer to haul my firewood
>> so I only have to pull the trailer a few times a year and not haul the
>> weight of the truck the rest of the year. That's something else you see
>> in Europe. They have a lot of trailer hitches for just such occasions.
>
> And it is better that someone else plow my driveway with their 17 MPG
> truck rather than me plow it with my 18 MPG truck? Sorry, but that logic
> isn't logical.
>
>
>> My reading comprehension is quite good but it just makes me sick to read
>> your drivel.......
>
> If you think what I wrote is drivel, then that confirms your lack of
> reading comprehension.
>
> You are just too easy and just can't help yourself from responding to
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(Msg. 87) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:55 pm
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(Msg. 88) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:55 pm
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tjnamtiw wrote:
> I reply to you, Matt, because I've read many of your comments over time and
> you seem to be knowledgeable; therefore, I still have some hope that you can
> 'see the light'. ) It's always healthy to debate both sides of a
> dilemna.
If only there were a light to see?
Yes, I enjoy a good debate and believe that debates can be both
educational and entertaining.
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(Msg. 89) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:55 pm
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Matt Whiting <whiting.RemoveThis@epix.net> wrote in
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> tjnamtiw wrote:
>> I reply to you, Matt, because I've read many of your comments over
>> time and you seem to be knowledgeable; therefore, I still have some
>> hope that you can 'see the light'. ) It's always healthy to
>> debate both sides of a dilemna.
>
> If only there were a light to see?
>
> Yes, I enjoy a good debate and believe that debates can be both
> educational and entertaining.
>
> Matt
This debate definitely entertained the heck outta me
For the record, I believe the earth is warming. I don't believe anyone has
really figured out why yet. I also believe it is a cyclical event that
there ain't a thing we can do about. I am also a registered Republican but
I do vote for an occasional "D". I can't find anyone I can really align
with this time around though
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(Msg. 90) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:00 am
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Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting.DeleteThis@epix.net> wrote in
> news:NoKrj.173$kD5.2797@news1.epix.net:
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>> tjnamtiw wrote:
>>> I reply to you, Matt, because I've read many of your comments over
>>> time and you seem to be knowledgeable; therefore, I still have some
>>> hope that you can 'see the light'. ) It's always healthy to
>>> debate both sides of a dilemna.
>> If only there were a light to see?
>>
>> Yes, I enjoy a good debate and believe that debates can be both
>> educational and entertaining.
>>
>> Matt
>
> This debate definitely entertained the heck outta me
>
> For the record, I believe the earth is warming. I don't believe anyone has
> really figured out why yet. I also believe it is a cyclical event that
> there ain't a thing we can do about. I am also a registered Republican but
> I do vote for an occasional "D". I can't find anyone I can really align
> with this time around though
Yes, I'm in much the same boat. I'm not a fan of any of the front
runners or any of the "independents in waiting" such as Bloomberg. I
may write in someone's name just so I can say I voted and did my civic
duty, but did so without compromising my beliefs.
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