Type of Fuel

"Tina" <woodgirl68 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> sez:

<snip> will it make a difference if I
 > don't use premium unleaded?<snip>

Yes, you'll have more money in your bank account. Other than that, the
difference is negligible.

Good refuelin' to ya,
VLJ
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"If it starts to knock I know to switch to
premium,"

Wrong answer. Spark knock in any modern computer controlled engine
is caused either by one of the electronic gizmos failing, or serious
carbon buildup in the combustion chamber.

Both of you will do fine running 87. There is no advantage running
premium in an engine designed for 87.

Ken

Tina wrote:
 > My neighbor and myself had a discussion last evening, she owns a 2003 Camry,
 > 4 cyl. and I just bought the 2005 Tacoma sr5 access cab, 4 cyl., she asked
 > what kind of gas I put in the truck I told her Regular unleaded like my book
 > says, but she puts in premium in the camry, will it make a difference if I
 > don't use premium unleaded? If it starts to knock I know to switch to
 > premium, but I"m still in the break in period ...what does the collective
 > think? Thanks in advance.
 >
 > Tina
 >
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:04:06 -0400, "Tina" <woodgirl68 RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
wrote:

 >My neighbor and myself had a discussion last evening, she owns a 2003 Camry,
 >4 cyl. and I just bought the 2005 Tacoma sr5 access cab, 4 cyl., she asked
 >what kind of gas I put in the truck I told her Regular unleaded like my book
 >says, but she puts in premium in the camry, will it make a difference if I
 >don't use premium unleaded? If it starts to knock I know to switch to
 >premium, but I"m still in the break in period ...what does the collective
 >think? Thanks in advance.
 >

I doubt if the Camry needs premium ... she's wasting $$.
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Tina wrote:
 >what does the collective
 > think?

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:04:06 -0400, "Tina" <woodgirl68.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:

 >My neighbor and myself had a discussion last evening, she owns a 2003 Camry,
 >4 cyl. and I just bought the 2005 Tacoma sr5 access cab, 4 cyl., she asked
 >what kind of gas I put in the truck I told her Regular unleaded like my book
 >says, but she puts in premium in the camry, will it make a difference if I
 >don't use premium unleaded? If it starts to knock I know to switch to
 >premium, but I"m still in the break in period ...what does the collective
 >think? Thanks in advance.

Tina: The computer in the truck adjusts to the gasoline you use,
and Premium is not needed. It will run just fine on regular, and save
you a LOT of money over the long haul.

There are only a few high-performance sports cars built where you
/must/ run Premium. Or people who have added turbochargers or
superchargers to their cars.

If you use Premium in a modern car or truck with EFI, the computer
can sense it (knock sensor) and advance the ignition timing a few
degrees, but you won't be able to tell the performance difference in
everyday driving. You will pick up something under one horsepower,
which might get you to the top of a steep hill a quarter second faster
- big whoop. Save your money.

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:12:13 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:

 > On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 05:04:06 -0400, "Tina" <woodgirl68 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
 >
  >>My neighbor and myself had a discussion last evening, she owns a 2003
  >>Camry, 4 cyl. and I just bought the 2005 Tacoma sr5 access cab, 4 cyl.,
  >>she asked what kind of gas I put in the truck I told her Regular
  >>unleaded like my book says, but she puts in premium in the camry, will
  >>it make a difference if I don't use premium unleaded? If it starts to
  >>knock I know to switch to premium, but I"m still in the break in period
  >>...what does the collective think? Thanks in advance.
 >
 > Tina: The computer in the truck adjusts to the gasoline you use,
 > and Premium is not needed. It will run just fine on regular, and save
 > you a LOT of money over the long haul.
 >
 > There are only a few high-performance sports cars built where you
 > /must/ run Premium. Or people who have added turbochargers or
 > superchargers to their cars.
 >
 > If you use Premium in a modern car or truck with EFI, the computer
 > can sense it (knock sensor) and advance the ignition timing a few
 > degrees, but you won't be able to tell the performance difference in
 > everyday driving. You will pick up something under one horsepower,
 > which might get you to the top of a steep hill a quarter second faster -
 > big whoop. Save your money.
 >
 > --<< Bruce >>--


I think more then that. When pulling a long grade in my '93 3L, I notice
it start to knock and ping, then it will stop with a
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I have a 2005 Tacoma 2.7L VVT and have tried all 3 grades of gasoline. It
does run fine on 87, however, I do notice more power with 89, but no
advantage with 93 over 89. I also have a 2000 Honda Odyssey EX 3.5L VTEC and
notice quite a large difference in performance with 93 over 87 octane,
however, it does run fine on 87. Honda advertised a 5-10 horsepower increase
with premium fuel.
"Tina" <woodgirl68.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > My neighbor and myself had a discussion last evening, she owns a 2003
 > Camry,
 > 4 cyl. and I just bought the 2005 Tacoma sr5 access cab, 4 cyl., she asked
 > what kind of gas I put in the truck I told her Regular unleaded like my
 > book
 > says, but she puts in premium in the camry, will it make a difference if
 > I
 > don't use premium unleaded? If it starts to knock I know to switch to
 > premium, but I"m still in the break in period ...what does the collective
 > think? Thanks in advance.
 >
 > Tina
 >
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"Ken Shelton" <shelton DeleteThis @cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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 > "If it starts to knock I know to switch to
 > premium,"
 >
 > Wrong answer. Spark knock in any modern computer controlled engine
 > is caused either by one of the electronic gizmos failing, or serious
 > carbon buildup in the combustion chamber.
 >
 > Both of you will do fine running 87. There is no advantage running
 > premium in an engine designed for 87.
 >


 > Ken

I stand corrected thanks Ken, I keep forgetting that I also own a 68 Vw Bug
and that does get spark knock from regular gas or if it isn't tweeked just
right, got to run premium in that baby ,no electronic gobble e goop on that
car.

Tina


 > Tina wrote:
  > > My neighbor and myself had a discussion last evening, she owns a 2003
Camry,
  > > 4 cyl. and I just bought the 2005 Tacoma sr5 access cab, 4 cyl., she
asked
  > > what kind of gas I put in the truck I told her Regular unleaded like my
book
  > > says, but she puts in premium in the camry, will it make a difference
if I
  > > don't use premium unleaded? If it starts to knock I know to switch to
  > > premium, but I"m still in the break in period ...what does the
collective
  > > think? Thanks in advance.
  > >
  > > Tina
  > >
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Thanks for all the replys...I'll inform my neighbor but knowing her she
won't believe me, I'll tell her to ask the dealership mechanic

Tina

"Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn.DeleteThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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 > I have a 2005 Tacoma 2.7L VVT and have tried all 3 grades of gasoline. It
 > does run fine on 87, however, I do notice more power with 89, but no
 > advantage with 93 over 89. I also have a 2000 Honda Odyssey EX 3.5L VTEC
and
 > notice quite a large difference in performance with 93 over 87 octane,
 > however, it does run fine on 87. Honda advertised a 5-10 horsepower
increase
 > with premium fuel.
 > "Tina" <woodgirl68.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:nHcqe.29058$iU.20142@lakeread05...
  > > My neighbor and myself had a discussion last evening, she owns a 2003
  > > Camry,
  > > 4 cyl. and I just bought the 2005 Tacoma sr5 access cab, 4 cyl., she
asked
  > > what kind of gas I put in the truck I told her Regular unleaded like my
  > > book
  > > says, but she puts in premium in the camry, will it make a difference
if
  > > I
  > > don't use premium unleaded? If it starts to knock I know to switch to
  > > premium, but I"m still in the break in period ...what does the
collective
  > > think? Thanks in advance.
  > >
  > > Tina
  > >
  > >
 >
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please.DeleteThis@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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 > Tina wrote:
  > >what does the collective
  > > think?
 >
 > RTFM


don't know what that means "RTFM "

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Tina wrote:

Thanks for all the replys...I'll inform my neighbor but knowing her she won't believe me, I'll tell her to ask the dealership mechanic Tina

Modern closed loop engines have high compression and really need more than 87 octane to do their best, The vehicals ECM will try to let you run low octane fuel by retarding the spark to control knock but when it does this it is also reducing power output and MPG too. Give the price of fuel these days and that even plus is only 3 or 4 % more than regular it is kinda silly not to use better fuel because it may actually be cheaper to use it because of increased engine efficency, especailly in hot weather.
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