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Steve Lusardi wrote:
> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes
> awhile to reach that
> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft,
> let alone a support
> for one? Steve

That's about what I thought. It really does take
a long time to heat up in the winter. Even after
letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes, it took
quite a while to heat up. Much longer than my 5.9
gas engine. And it was only about 20* out. I
installed the Dodge winter cover, too.

The sector shaft is through the middle of the
steering box. The pitman arm is connected to it.
Apparently due to weight and strain, that shaft
can wear out rather quickly and cause poor
steering response.

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> Steve Lusardi wrote:
>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
>> for one? Steve
>
> That's about what I thought. It really does take a long time to heat up
> in the winter. Even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes, it took
> quite a while to heat up. Much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. And it was
> only about 20* out. I installed the Dodge winter cover, too.

Letting a Cummins idle isn't really the best thing for it. The cooling
system is real efficent, so it will warm a bit then cool. You'd be better
off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. Or plug it in.
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".boB" <bobcowan035.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Steve Lusardi wrote:
>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
>> for one? Steve
>
> That's about what I thought. It really does take a long time to heat up
> in the winter. Even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes, it took
> quite a while to heat up. Much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. And it was
> only about 20* out. I installed the Dodge winter cover, too.
>
> The sector shaft is through the middle of the steering box. The pitman
> arm is connected to it. Apparently due to weight and strain, that shaft
> can wear out rather quickly and cause poor steering response.
>
> http://www.thedieselgarage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58674
>
>
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> .boB
> 2006 FXDI hot rod
> 2008 Mustang Coupe
> 2007 Ram 2500 CTD/Auto/4x4
> 1965 FFR Cobra - 427W EFI, Damn Fast.

I see big trucks all the time that have a canvas screen in front of their
radiators, and it's only like a quarter open. We drove last night down from
a town 30 miles from us. Nearly a white out on the freeway. Slow going on
a bad stretch of road. When I got home, I had icicles on my front grill,
and the temp gauge was one needle width under the 190.

Steve
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"Roy" <Roy.TakeThisOut@home.net> wrote in message news:gid3nb02f2d@news1.newsguy.com...
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> ".boB" <bobcowan035.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> Steve Lusardi wrote:
>>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
>>> for one? Steve
>>
>> That's about what I thought. It really does take a long time to heat up
>> in the winter. Even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes, it
>> took quite a while to heat up. Much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. And
>> it was only about 20* out. I installed the Dodge winter cover, too.
>
> Letting a Cummins idle isn't really the best thing for it. The cooling
> system is real efficent, so it will warm a bit then cool. You'd be better
> off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. Or plug it in.

I start mine up daily and let it warm up before I get in it. My manual says
nothing about letting it warm up. Where I live is four miles from the
freeway. Am I supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before I get on
the freeway? What's the difference between letting it warm it up in the
driveway and driving it slow for fifteen minutes?

Steve
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SteveB wrote:
> I see big trucks all the time that have a canvas
> screen in front of
> their radiators, and it's only like a quarter
> open.

Dodge sells a radiator cover. From what I read,
it's the best around. I paid $135 for it at the
dealer. It took me about 15 minutes to install.
And that includes opening the box and reading the
instructions. It has flaps to open and close
depending on the weather. Driving down the
highway last night I had only two flaps open.
Engine temp was just a little below 200*; right
where it is supposed to be.

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2007 Ram 2500 CTD/Auto/4x4
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>> ".boB" <bobcowan035 DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>> Steve Lusardi wrote:
>>>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>>>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
>>>> for one? Steve
>>>
>>> That's about what I thought. It really does take a long time to heat up
>>> in the winter. Even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes, it
>>> took quite a while to heat up. Much longer than my 5.9 gas engine. And
>>> it was only about 20* out. I installed the Dodge winter cover, too.
>>
>> Letting a Cummins idle isn't really the best thing for it. The cooling
>> system is real efficent, so it will warm a bit then cool. You'd be better
>> off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. Or plug it in.
>
> I start mine up daily and let it warm up before I get in it. My manual
> says nothing about letting it warm up. Where I live is four miles from
> the freeway. Am I supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before I
> get on the freeway?

Nope, in your case, start it up and stand on it. Let us know how that works
for you.
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>>> ".boB" <bobcowan035.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Steve Lusardi wrote:
>>>>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>>>>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
>>>>> for one? Steve
>>>>
>>>> That's about what I thought. It really does take a long time to heat
>>>> up in the winter. Even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes,
>>>> it took quite a while to heat up. Much longer than my 5.9 gas engine.
>>>> And it was only about 20* out. I installed the Dodge winter cover,
>>>> too.
>>>
>>> Letting a Cummins idle isn't really the best thing for it. The cooling
>>> system is real efficent, so it will warm a bit then cool. You'd be
>>> better off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. Or
>>> plug it in.
>>
>> I start mine up daily and let it warm up before I get in it. My manual
>> says nothing about letting it warm up. Where I live is four miles from
>> the freeway. Am I supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before I
>> get on the freeway?
>
> Nope, in your case, start it up and stand on it. Let us know how that
> works for you.

If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it off.
I'll do whatever I want with it. But I'm afraid that with your control
freak issues, it will not be okay. In that case, just cope. You're an
adult.

BTW, page 254 of the owner's manual sez:

If temperatures are below 32 F, operate the engine at moderate speeds for
five minutes before full loads are applied.

Re: lower temps, on the same page, it sez:

Avoid prolonged idling in ambient temperatures below 0 F.

There is information on manifold air preheating, engine block heaters, etc,
also.

You DO have an owner's manual, don't you?

No, you only WANT to own a Dodge truck some day? ................

sigh .......................

As to the OPs question, and others who have contributed, the best thing to
do is read your manual until you understand it. Particularly the WAIT TO
START light, if your truck is so equipped.

Steve

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>>>>> Steve Lusardi wrote:
>>>>>> About 190 to 210. You will notice that it takes awhile to reach that
>>>>>> temp. in cold weather. What is a sector shaft, let alone a support
>>>>>> for one? Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> That's about what I thought. It really does take a long time to heat
>>>>> up in the winter. Even after letting it idle tonight for 10 minutes,
>>>>> it took quite a while to heat up. Much longer than my 5.9 gas engine.
>>>>> And it was only about 20* out. I installed the Dodge winter cover,
>>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> Letting a Cummins idle isn't really the best thing for it. The cooling
>>>> system is real efficent, so it will warm a bit then cool. You'd be
>>>> better off starting it and driving easy for about 15 minutes imo. Or
>>>> plug it in.
>>>
>>> I start mine up daily and let it warm up before I get in it. My manual
>>> says nothing about letting it warm up. Where I live is four miles from
>>> the freeway. Am I supposed to drive around for fifteen minutes before I
>>> get on the freeway?
>>
>> Nope, in your case, start it up and stand on it. Let us know how that
>> works for you.
>
> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it off.

Is that supposed to impress anybody here?

I told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. Ya should have
listened.

Folks gotta be smilin' now.

> I'll do whatever I want with it. But I'm afraid that with your control
> freak issues, it will not be okay. In that case, just cope. You're an
> adult.

You asked a question I answered YOU expilcitly. Now your unhappy. Next time
don't ask.

> BTW, page 254 of the owner's manual sez:
>
> If temperatures are below 32 F, operate the engine at moderate speeds for
> five minutes before full loads are applied.
>
> Re: lower temps, on the same page, it sez:
>
> Avoid prolonged idling in ambient temperatures below 0 F.
>
> There is information on manifold air preheating, engine block heaters,
> etc, also.
>
> You DO have an owner's manual, don't you?
>
> No, you only WANT to own a Dodge truck some day? ..

Yup, ya got me sherlock, I never owned a Dodge truck and have no knowledge
of diesels.


>
> sigh .......................
>
> As to the OPs question, and others who have contributed, the best thing to
> do is read your manual until you understand it. Particularly the WAIT TO
> START light, if your truck is so equipped.

What Dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent' have a wait to
start light?
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"Roy" <Roy.RemoveThis@home.net> wrote
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>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it off.
>
> Is that supposed to impress anybody here?
>
> I told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. Ya should have
> listened.
>
> Folks gotta be smilin' now.
>
>
> What Dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent' have a wait to
> start light?

My '06 has one, but it only comes on in cold weather. The weather where I
live does not activate it, so I have never seen it. So, it does, but it
doesn't. I'm sorry if I embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck.
The sales lady was sure happy.

Steve
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> "Roy" <Roy.TakeThisOut@home.net> wrote
>>>
>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it off.
>>
>> Is that supposed to impress anybody here?
>>
>> I told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. Ya should
>> have listened.
>>
>> Folks gotta be smilin' now.
>>
>>
>> What Dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent' have a wait to
>> start light?
>
> My '06 has one, but it only comes on in cold weather. The weather where I
> live does not activate it, so I have never seen it. So, it does, but it
> doesn't. I'm sorry if I embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my truck.
> The sales lady was sure happy.

The only one that should be embarrassed is you. But you don't get it, but
you will.
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>> "Roy" <Roy RemoveThis @home.net> wrote
>>>>
>>>> If it's okay with you, I wrote a check for my truck, and I drove it
>>>> off.
>>>
>>> Is that supposed to impress anybody here?
>>>
>>> I told you to to run along before you embarrassed yourself. Ya should
>>> have listened.
>>>
>>> Folks gotta be smilin' now.
>>>
>>>
>>> What Dodge diesel truck made in the last 14 years dosent' have a wait
>>> to start light?
>>
>> My '06 has one, but it only comes on in cold weather. The weather where
>> I live does not activate it, so I have never seen it. So, it does, but
>> it doesn't. I'm sorry if I embarrassed anyone by paying cash for my
>> truck. The sales lady was sure happy.
>
> The only one that should be embarrassed is you. But you don't get it, but
> you will.

You gonna stalk me, or what?
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>>>> BTW, we'll be driving the Dodge, and I'll report on the mileage.
>>>
>>> To Hawaii? That will be interesting.
>>
>> Hey, look, everyone! I got another bite!
>>
>> You make it too easy, Roy.

Well, the mileage on the DODGE was 17.2

The mileage on the 757 was 2.56 gallons per mile. 188 passengers and a full
crew, so some math head will have to figure the mpg per person.

Kauai, Hawaii. Saw all of it, every beach, every main section of road, and
most waterfalls. A highly suggested trip, sharply contrasting from the Las
Vegas carnival atmosphere of the larger islands. I'd move there is a
heartbeat, and could still keep in touch with Roy.

Steve
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