Transmission Question

"david" <none.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:07:38 -0500, Ted rearranged some electrons to say:
>
>> I have been looking at some mid to late 80's F150's and F250's. The ones
>> that had manual transmissions were all 4 speeds where first gear is a
>> "granny gear". Is this normal? I would think that most of the
>> transmission would be geared more like a car and not have the granny
>> gear.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ted
>
> That was back in the days when trucks weren't considered cars.

Exactly. Anyone with any sense would rather have one of those (I'm guessing
NP) transmissions rather than the Mazda M5ODHD Ranger transmissions that the
F-150's currently get.

CJB
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That manual transmission is the NP435, where NP is New Process -- the
manufacturer.

It is perhaps the most bullet proof transmission to ever come off the
production line. The T5 is very similar, except it has five gears.

I have the NP435 in my '81 Jeep CJ5, and I only use 1st gear when I need to
go very slow over rocks, or to pull stuff -- such as drag my house off of
its foundation. 1st is geared at 6.69:1, 4th is 1:1, 2nd and 3rd pretty much
divide the range equally.

To answer your question, yes it is normal, and no trucks of that era are not
geared like cars.




"Ted" <miamitedNOSPAM.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>I have been looking at some mid to late 80's F150's and F250's. The ones
>that had manual transmissions were all 4 speeds where first gear is a
>"granny gear". Is this normal? I would think that most of the transmission
>would be geared more like a car and not have the granny gear.
>
> Thanks
> Ted
>
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>I have been looking at some mid to late
>80's F150's and F250's. The ones that
> had manual transmissions were all 4
> speeds where first gear is a "granny
> gear". Is this normal? I would think that
> most of the transmission would be
> geared more like a car and not have the
> granny gear.

As I recall, the 80s F series trucks had 3, 4-sp trannys. The Warner
T-18/the NP435 and the SROD. The SROD (single-rail overdrive) had all
forward speeds syncronized, while the T-18 and the NP435 had a spur-gear
as 1st gear (granny gear). The SROD was more 'car like', but still very
strong and capable of truck work.

Dave S (Texas)
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> >I have been looking at some mid to late
>>80's F150's and F250's. The ones that
>> had manual transmissions were all 4
>> speeds where first gear is a "granny
>> gear". Is this normal? I would think that
>> most of the transmission would be
>> geared more like a car and not have the
>> granny gear.
>
> As I recall, the 80s F series trucks had 3, 4-sp trannys. The Warner
> T-18/the NP435 and the SROD. The SROD (single-rail overdrive) had all
> forward speeds syncronized, while the T-18 and the NP435 had a spur-gear
> as 1st gear (granny gear). The SROD was more 'car like', but still very
> strong and capable of truck work.
>
> Dave S (Texas)
>
Seems to me there was a four speed over drive as well, top loader that was
about bullet proof as well, also used in a few of the vans.

Whitelightning
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"david" <none.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:07:38 -0500, Ted rearranged some electrons to say:
>
>> I have been looking at some mid to late 80's F150's and F250's. The ones
>> that had manual transmissions were all 4 speeds where first gear is a
>> "granny gear". Is this normal? I would think that most of the
>> transmission would be geared more like a car and not have the granny
>> gear.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ted
>
> That was back in the days when trucks weren't considered cars.
>
This is true, Now most people who drive them never put anything in the back
or tow anything. I think it might be a macho thing or they are trying to
make up for some shortcoming. Especially those that drive 3/4 and 1 ton
trucks.
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<putt DeleteThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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> >I have been looking at some mid to late
>>80's F150's and F250's. The ones that
>> had manual transmissions were all 4
>> speeds where first gear is a "granny
>> gear". Is this normal? I would think that
>> most of the transmission would be
>> geared more like a car and not have the
>> granny gear.
>
> As I recall, the 80s F series trucks had 3, 4-sp trannys. The Warner
> T-18/the NP435 and the SROD. The SROD (single-rail overdrive) had all
> forward speeds syncronized, while the T-18 and the NP435 had a spur-gear
> as 1st gear (granny gear). The SROD was more 'car like', but still very
> strong and capable of truck work.
>
> Dave S (Texas)
>
>
Is there an easy way to identify the different transmissions?
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On Jan 20, 6:07 pm, "Ted" <miamitedNOS....DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I have been looking at some mid to late 80's F150's and F250's. The ones
> that had manual transmissions were all 4 speeds where first gear is a
> "granny gear". Is this normal? I would think that most of the transmission
> would be geared more like a car and not have the granny gear.
>
> Thanks
> Ted


Thanks for asking this question -- it's been years since I heard
anyone say "granny gear" but thanks to your question and a touch of
Wild Turkey, the memories are coming back to me.

Back in the day -- back when men were MEN and trucks were TRUCKS -- my
friend Bob had a 48 GMC, ugly green with the curved windows on the
rear corners of the cab.

Bob's "little green truck" had a granny gear -- we called it "bulldog
gear." When we would trek back into the Smoky Mountains and
surrounding areas, we often ran out of road. Many a time Bob would
shove the little green truck into bulldog, pull out the hand throttle
(yes, it had a hand choke and hand throttle), we would get out of the
truck, he'd reach through the window to hold the steering wheel, and
we'd walk alongside the truck, watching for stumps, rocks , holes, and
the like while the truck pulled itself along with Bob steering through
the window.

The little green truck also had a spotlight mounted on the driver's
side windshield pillar with the control handle that aimed the
spotlight inside the truck. We had somewhat limited funds at the time
-- being young lads who were employed delivering newspapers, cutting
grass, sacking groceries, and the like -- but we kept two $10 bills
rolled up and stashed inside the spotlight handle, just in case we
needed money.

One time something broke on the carb linkage and we fixed it -- no
kidding -- with a piece of wire cut from a coat hanger that we found
lying alongside the road. Try that with today's truck.

Then there are all the old VW Beetles I owned . . .
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>Is there an easy way to identify the
> different transmissions?

The Certificate label on the driver-side door frame has the trans code.
A=4-sp New Process/B=4-sp SROD/F=4-sp Warner

Dave S (Texas)
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putt RemoveThis @webtv.net wrote:
>> Is there an easy way to identify the
>> different transmissions?
>
> The Certificate label on the driver-side door frame has the trans code.
> A=4-sp New Process/B=4-sp SROD/F=4-sp Warner
>
> Dave S (Texas)
>
Go here. Just about any info you will ever need.

http://www.f150online.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211867
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