Traction Control question

I believe it works with both brakes and throttle. Mine ('06 Cooper)
works pretty well -- subtle but effective -- on any loss of traction
while the car is in motion, but not so well in a standing start on
packed snow or ice. In situations where I am perfectly able to make a
smooth start on my own, this thing applies the brakes. These
unexpected jerks are startling and annoying. I have the optional
system that addresses cornering skids in addition to straight-line
traction loss, and I think it's worthwhile overall. I wish I could
turn off just the part that gives unwanted assistance when I
accelerate from a stop.

"El Gordo" <gord.TakeThisOut@smithottawa-make-obvious-changes.calm> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I was just wondering what the ASC uses to control the car. Does it cut back
>on the throttle, or does it apply the brakes?
>
>With winter driving here in Canada, the ASC kicks in a lot. If it's using
>the brakes then I think I'd want to turn it off on those extra slippery
>days.
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>'05 Cooper S, if it makes any difference.
>


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S1500 wrote:
> El Gordo wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was just wondering what the ASC uses to control the car. Does it
>> cut back on the throttle, or does it apply the brakes?
>>
>> With winter driving here in Canada, the ASC kicks in a lot. If it's
>> using the brakes then I think I'd want to turn it off on those extra
>> slippery days.
>>
>> Thanks for any info.
>>
>> '05 Cooper S, if it makes any difference.
>>
> You mean DSC? If slip = reduces throttle.
>
> It's snowy here in MN, and I turn it off all the time now. Otherwise
> getting to my destination would take forever.

My '03 has DSC and except in deep snow I leave DSC on. There is one hill
that I absolutely could not make it up except for DSC keeping the car
reasonably straight despite my best efforts to divert the car into the
ditch. If DSC is off the tires spin no matter how little throttle I give
and how few steering inputs I provide.

It works on both brakes and throttle. But since it is ABS I do not
understand from the original post why the problem with it using the
brakes? Unless you are on sheer ice or deep snow I find ABS to work
better than I have ever been able to cope with it (and I have been
driving/racing for years now).
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> S1500 wrote:
>> El Gordo wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was just wondering what the ASC uses to control the car. Does it cut
>>> back on the throttle, or does it apply the brakes?
>>>
>>> With winter driving here in Canada, the ASC kicks in a lot. If it's
>>> using the brakes then I think I'd want to turn it off on those extra
>>> slippery days.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>
>>> '05 Cooper S, if it makes any difference.
>>>
>> You mean DSC? If slip = reduces throttle.
>>
>> It's snowy here in MN, and I turn it off all the time now. Otherwise
>> getting to my destination would take forever.

I meant ASC, as in the lever to disable/re-enable it says "ASC". I don't
have the super-sporty 17" wheel model with DSC, I just have ASC.
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