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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:43 pm
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Toyota takes 1Q world sales lead from General Motors
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080423/gm_global_sales.html?.v=8

DETROIT (AP) -- Toyota has taken the global automotive sales lead from
General Motors, selling 2.41 million vehicles to GM's 2.25 million
during the first three months of the year.

GM said Wednesday its first-quarter sales dropped across the globe by
less than 1 percent, but Toyota said its sales were up 2.7 percent
during the January-March period.

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Toyota Motor Corp., Japan's top automaker, said its global sales rose on
the back of steady demand in Asia and strong demand in Europe.

General Motors Corp. barely won the global sales race with Toyota last
year. But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by
global vehicle production in 2007.

GM said it posted record sales in three of its four regions, but a 10
percent drop in North America pulled down the overall numbers. Sales
were up 8 percent outside of North America, the Detroit automaker said.

A record 64 percent of GM's sales in the latest quarter came from
outside the United States.

"While the challenges of the U.S. economy continue to put pressure on
the automotive industry there, we saw nearly 20 percent growth in the
Latin America, Africa and Middle East, and 6 percent growth in the Asia
Pacific region," John Middlebrook, GM vice president of global sales,
said in a statement.

GM sold roughly 2.27 million vehicles worldwide in the first quarter of
2007.

Mike DiGiovanni, the company's executive director of global markets and
industry analysis, said Toyota outsold GM in the first quarter of last
year, too, yet GM was able to retake the lead by the end of the year.

He said the company is more focused on turning around its North American
operations and becoming profitable worldwide than it is on beating Toyota.

"We obviously want to win, and we'd like to be No. 1 in sales at the end
of the year," he said. "But really our focus right now is on profitable,
sustainable growth across the world."

There may not be any relief in the U.S., though, in the near-term.

DiGiovanni said the company now is thinking second-quarter sales will be
worse than the first quarter, largely because of rising gasoline prices.
But he said the fundamentals are in place for a recovery in the second
half of the year.

"This is clearly a headwind that we didn't anticipate to be at this
level, so that's factored into our thinking as well," he told reporters
and industry analysts on a conference call.

DiGiovanni said gasoline prices can't be predicted, but GM is preparing
for increases.

"It's affected by so many factors, both political, societal, tangible in
terms of what the actual physical reserves in the ground are and the
cost to get at them. It's affected by refineries. It's affected by
pipelines. It's affected by anything that can go wrong in the whole
chain. And now it's affected by speculation, which is driving part of
it. So I do not think this is something you can forecast," he said.

But DiGiovanni said GM does not use a "lower-bound" forecast anymore,
and it had raised its internal forecast aggressively.

With new cars and crossover vehicles already out or coming this year,
DiGiovanni said the company is well positioned to capture the market as
it continues to shift away from trucks and sport utility vehicles.

"Our portfolio is moving in the direction the market is moving," he
said. "Part of that's luck and part of that's planning."

Toyota, meanwhile, said its worldwide production expanded 7 percent from
a year earlier to 2.54 million vehicles.

Toyota said output of popular, fuel-efficient small cars such as the
Corolla model grew strongly in China, while production of pickup trucks
rose steadily in Thailand during the quarter.

Some analysts say it's only a matter of time before Toyota -- which
built its business in the decades after World War II by imitating
American automakers -- overtakes GM in terms of annual global sales as
well as production.

GM shares rose 62 cents, or 3 percent, to $21.13, in midday trading
Wednesday while Toyota fell 56 cents, or 0.56 percent, to $100.

In the Japanese fiscal year through March 2008, Toyota's global output
rose 6.4 percent from a year earlier to 9.66 million vehicles.

Honda Motor Co., Japan's No. 2 automaker, said its global production
rose 4.5 percent from a year ago to 1.02 million vehicles in the
January-March quarter.

Nissan Motor Co. said its global output rose 9.4 percent from a year ago
to 950,878 vehicles during the quarter.


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"Jim Higgins" <gordian238 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by global
> vehicle production in 2007.

Does that include all the recalled vehicles too? Toyota is also #1 there.

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On Apr 23, 12:43 pm, Jim Higgins <gordian... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Toyota takes 1Q world sales lead from General Motorshttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080423/gm_global_sales.html?.v=8
>
> DETROIT (AP) -- Toyota has taken the global automotive sales lead from
> General Motors, selling 2.41 million vehicles to GM's 2.25 million
> during the first three months of the year.
>
> GM said Wednesday its first-quarter sales dropped across the globe by
> less than 1 percent, but Toyota said its sales were up 2.7 percent
> during the January-March period.
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
> Toyota Motor Corp., Japan's top automaker, said its global sales rose on
> the back of steady demand in Asia and strong demand in Europe.
>
> General Motors Corp. barely won the global sales race with Toyota last
> year. But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by
> global vehicle production in 2007.
>
> GM said it posted record sales in three of its four regions, but a 10
> percent drop in North America pulled down the overall numbers. Sales
> were up 8 percent outside of North America, the Detroit automaker said.
>
> A record 64 percent of GM's sales in the latest quarter came from
> outside the United States.
>
> "While the challenges of the U.S. economy continue to put pressure on
> the automotive industry there, we saw nearly 20 percent growth in the
> Latin America, Africa and Middle East, and 6 percent growth in the Asia
> Pacific region," John Middlebrook, GM vice president of global sales,
> said in a statement.
>
> GM sold roughly 2.27 million vehicles worldwide in the first quarter of
> 2007.
>
> Mike DiGiovanni, the company's executive director of global markets and
> industry analysis, said Toyota outsold GM in the first quarter of last
> year, too, yet GM was able to retake the lead by the end of the year.
>
> He said the company is more focused on turning around its North American
> operations and becoming profitable worldwide than it is on beating Toyota.
>
> "We obviously want to win, and we'd like to be No. 1 in sales at the end
> of the year," he said. "But really our focus right now is on profitable,
> sustainable growth across the world."
>
> There may not be any relief in the U.S., though, in the near-term.
>
> DiGiovanni said the company now is thinking second-quarter sales will be
> worse than the first quarter, largely because of rising gasoline prices.
> But he said the fundamentals are in place for a recovery in the second
> half of the year.
>
> "This is clearly a headwind that we didn't anticipate to be at this
> level, so that's factored into our thinking as well," he told reporters
> and industry analysts on a conference call.
>
> DiGiovanni said gasoline prices can't be predicted, but GM is preparing
> for increases.
>
> "It's affected by so many factors, both political, societal, tangible in
> terms of what the actual physical reserves in the ground are and the
> cost to get at them. It's affected by refineries. It's affected by
> pipelines. It's affected by anything that can go wrong in the whole
> chain. And now it's affected by speculation, which is driving part of
> it. So I do not think this is something you can forecast," he said.
>
> But DiGiovanni said GM does not use a "lower-bound" forecast anymore,
> and it had raised its internal forecast aggressively.
>
> With new cars and crossover vehicles already out or coming this year,
> DiGiovanni said the company is well positioned to capture the market as
> it continues to shift away from trucks and sport utility vehicles.
>
> "Our portfolio is moving in the direction the market is moving," he
> said. "Part of that's luck and part of that's planning."
>
> Toyota, meanwhile, said its worldwide production expanded 7 percent from
> a year earlier to 2.54 million vehicles.
>
> Toyota said output of popular, fuel-efficient small cars such as the
> Corolla model grew strongly in China, while production of pickup trucks
> rose steadily in Thailand during the quarter.
>
> Some analysts say it's only a matter of time before Toyota -- which
> built its business in the decades after World War II by imitating
> American automakers -- overtakes GM in terms of annual global sales as
> well as production.
>
> GM shares rose 62 cents, or 3 percent, to $21.13, in midday trading
> Wednesday while Toyota fell 56 cents, or 0.56 percent, to $100.
>
> In the Japanese fiscal year through March 2008, Toyota's global output
> rose 6.4 percent from a year earlier to 9.66 million vehicles.
>
> Honda Motor Co., Japan's No. 2 automaker, said its global production
> rose 4.5 percent from a year ago to 1.02 million vehicles in the
> January-March quarter.
>
> Nissan Motor Co. said its global output rose 9.4 percent from a year ago
> to 950,878 vehicles during the quarter.
>
> --
> Civis Romanus Sum



All-in-all, I'd say it has turned out to be a nice day for one Jim
Higgins.Nice job there , Jimbo. Probably been waiting patiently for a
while to make this post. Meanwhile, I lost in the office pool by 12
minutes as to the exact time you would post this here.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:18 pm
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On Apr 23, 1:41 pm, "80 Knight" <nos....RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> "Jim Higgins" <gordian....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:gM2dnYt0_dvX-pLVnZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@eaglecomputertechnology...
>
> > But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by global
> > vehicle production in 2007.
>
> Does that include all the recalled vehicles too?  Toyota is also #1 there.

You forget that,as far as recalls go, "Toyota takes care of the
problem."


Kinda funny how that, if this were indeed true, then the number of
recalls should DECREASE!
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:35 pm
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coachrose13.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 23, 12:43 pm, Jim Higgins <gordian....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Toyota takes 1Q world sales lead from General Motorshttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080423/gm_global_sales.html?.v=8
>>
>> DETROIT (AP) -- Toyota has taken the global automotive sales lead from
>> General Motors, selling 2.41 million vehicles to GM's 2.25 million
>> during the first three months of the year.
>>
>> GM said Wednesday its first-quarter sales dropped across the globe by
>> less than 1 percent, but Toyota said its sales were up 2.7 percent
>> during the January-March period.
>>
>> ADVERTISEMENT
>> Toyota Motor Corp., Japan's top automaker, said its global sales rose on
>> the back of steady demand in Asia and strong demand in Europe.
>>
>> General Motors Corp. barely won the global sales race with Toyota last
>> year. But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by
>> global vehicle production in 2007.
>>
>> GM said it posted record sales in three of its four regions, but a 10
>> percent drop in North America pulled down the overall numbers. Sales
>> were up 8 percent outside of North America, the Detroit automaker said.
>>
>> A record 64 percent of GM's sales in the latest quarter came from
>> outside the United States.
>>
>> "While the challenges of the U.S. economy continue to put pressure on
>> the automotive industry there, we saw nearly 20 percent growth in the
>> Latin America, Africa and Middle East, and 6 percent growth in the Asia
>> Pacific region," John Middlebrook, GM vice president of global sales,
>> said in a statement.
>>
>> GM sold roughly 2.27 million vehicles worldwide in the first quarter of
>> 2007.
>>
>> Mike DiGiovanni, the company's executive director of global markets and
>> industry analysis, said Toyota outsold GM in the first quarter of last
>> year, too, yet GM was able to retake the lead by the end of the year.
>>
>> He said the company is more focused on turning around its North American
>> operations and becoming profitable worldwide than it is on beating Toyota.
>>
>> "We obviously want to win, and we'd like to be No. 1 in sales at the end
>> of the year," he said. "But really our focus right now is on profitable,
>> sustainable growth across the world."
>>
>> There may not be any relief in the U.S., though, in the near-term.
>>
>> DiGiovanni said the company now is thinking second-quarter sales will be
>> worse than the first quarter, largely because of rising gasoline prices.
>> But he said the fundamentals are in place for a recovery in the second
>> half of the year.
>>
>> "This is clearly a headwind that we didn't anticipate to be at this
>> level, so that's factored into our thinking as well," he told reporters
>> and industry analysts on a conference call.
>>
>> DiGiovanni said gasoline prices can't be predicted, but GM is preparing
>> for increases.
>>
>> "It's affected by so many factors, both political, societal, tangible in
>> terms of what the actual physical reserves in the ground are and the
>> cost to get at them. It's affected by refineries. It's affected by
>> pipelines. It's affected by anything that can go wrong in the whole
>> chain. And now it's affected by speculation, which is driving part of
>> it. So I do not think this is something you can forecast," he said.
>>
>> But DiGiovanni said GM does not use a "lower-bound" forecast anymore,
>> and it had raised its internal forecast aggressively.
>>
>> With new cars and crossover vehicles already out or coming this year,
>> DiGiovanni said the company is well positioned to capture the market as
>> it continues to shift away from trucks and sport utility vehicles.
>>
>> "Our portfolio is moving in the direction the market is moving," he
>> said. "Part of that's luck and part of that's planning."
>>
>> Toyota, meanwhile, said its worldwide production expanded 7 percent from
>> a year earlier to 2.54 million vehicles.
>>
>> Toyota said output of popular, fuel-efficient small cars such as the
>> Corolla model grew strongly in China, while production of pickup trucks
>> rose steadily in Thailand during the quarter.
>>
>> Some analysts say it's only a matter of time before Toyota -- which
>> built its business in the decades after World War II by imitating
>> American automakers -- overtakes GM in terms of annual global sales as
>> well as production.
>>
>> GM shares rose 62 cents, or 3 percent, to $21.13, in midday trading
>> Wednesday while Toyota fell 56 cents, or 0.56 percent, to $100.
>>
>> In the Japanese fiscal year through March 2008, Toyota's global output
>> rose 6.4 percent from a year earlier to 9.66 million vehicles.
>>
>> Honda Motor Co., Japan's No. 2 automaker, said its global production
>> rose 4.5 percent from a year ago to 1.02 million vehicles in the
>> January-March quarter.
>>
>> Nissan Motor Co. said its global output rose 9.4 percent from a year ago
>> to 950,878 vehicles during the quarter.
>>
>> --
>> Civis Romanus Sum
>
>
>
> All-in-all, I'd say it has turned out to be a nice day for one Jim
> Higgins.Nice job there , Jimbo. Probably been waiting patiently for a
> while to make this post. Meanwhile, I lost in the office pool by 12
> minutes as to the exact time you would post this here.
> -

Perhaps we could work out a deal Smile)

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All-in-all, I'd say it has turned out to be a nice day for one Jim
Higgins.Nice job there , Jimbo. Probably been waiting patiently for a
while to make this post. Meanwhile, I lost in the office pool by 12
minutes as to the exact time you would post this here.

***********************************

I can understand bashing someone badmouthing GM when not deserved, but like
it or not, he posted real facts. Rather that get upset over reality, do
something about it to change people's perception of US made cars or pressure
the car makers to make any needed changes.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:43 am
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"80 Knight" <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Jim Higgins" <gordian238 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gM2dnYt0_dvX-pLVnZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@eaglecomputertechnology...
>> But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by global
>> vehicle production in 2007.
>
> Does that include all the recalled vehicles too? Toyota is also #1 there.
>

Yes, that includes recalled vehicles too. Toyota, unlike GM, recalls
vehicles that they didn't build right so they can be fixed on Toyota's dime.
GM just says screw the customer, let them pay for the repair.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:35 am
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What that article actually says is Toyota out sold GM by a few thousand
vehicles worldwide for THREE months. Toyota also out sold GM in 2007 for a
number of months but at the end of the year GM outsold Toyota word wide.
It is like believing "my team" won the game because they are ahead at the
end of the fist half LOL

Toyota may indeed outsell GM worldwide by the end of the year because GM
does not compete in all of the same market around the world. GM does not
build the same type of midget cars and trucks around the world that the
Japanese build

<coachrose13 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 23, 12:43 pm, Jim Higgins <gordian... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Toyota takes 1Q world sales lead from General
> Motorshttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080423/gm_global_sales.html?.v=8
>
> DETROIT (AP) -- Toyota has taken the global automotive sales lead from
> General Motors, selling 2.41 million vehicles to GM's 2.25 million
> during the first three months of the year.
>
> GM said Wednesday its first-quarter sales dropped across the globe by
> less than 1 percent, but Toyota said its sales were up 2.7 percent
> during the January-March period.
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
> Toyota Motor Corp., Japan's top automaker, said its global sales rose on
> the back of steady demand in Asia and strong demand in Europe.
>
> General Motors Corp. barely won the global sales race with Toyota last
> year. But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by
> global vehicle production in 2007.
>
> GM said it posted record sales in three of its four regions, but a 10
> percent drop in North America pulled down the overall numbers. Sales
> were up 8 percent outside of North America, the Detroit automaker said.
>
> A record 64 percent of GM's sales in the latest quarter came from
> outside the United States.
>
> "While the challenges of the U.S. economy continue to put pressure on
> the automotive industry there, we saw nearly 20 percent growth in the
> Latin America, Africa and Middle East, and 6 percent growth in the Asia
> Pacific region," John Middlebrook, GM vice president of global sales,
> said in a statement.
>
> GM sold roughly 2.27 million vehicles worldwide in the first quarter of
> 2007.
>
> Mike DiGiovanni, the company's executive director of global markets and
> industry analysis, said Toyota outsold GM in the first quarter of last
> year, too, yet GM was able to retake the lead by the end of the year.
>
> He said the company is more focused on turning around its North American
> operations and becoming profitable worldwide than it is on beating Toyota.
>
> "We obviously want to win, and we'd like to be No. 1 in sales at the end
> of the year," he said. "But really our focus right now is on profitable,
> sustainable growth across the world."
>
> There may not be any relief in the U.S., though, in the near-term.
>
> DiGiovanni said the company now is thinking second-quarter sales will be
> worse than the first quarter, largely because of rising gasoline prices.
> But he said the fundamentals are in place for a recovery in the second
> half of the year.
>
> "This is clearly a headwind that we didn't anticipate to be at this
> level, so that's factored into our thinking as well," he told reporters
> and industry analysts on a conference call.
>
> DiGiovanni said gasoline prices can't be predicted, but GM is preparing
> for increases.
>
> "It's affected by so many factors, both political, societal, tangible in
> terms of what the actual physical reserves in the ground are and the
> cost to get at them. It's affected by refineries. It's affected by
> pipelines. It's affected by anything that can go wrong in the whole
> chain. And now it's affected by speculation, which is driving part of
> it. So I do not think this is something you can forecast," he said.
>
> But DiGiovanni said GM does not use a "lower-bound" forecast anymore,
> and it had raised its internal forecast aggressively.
>
> With new cars and crossover vehicles already out or coming this year,
> DiGiovanni said the company is well positioned to capture the market as
> it continues to shift away from trucks and sport utility vehicles.
>
> "Our portfolio is moving in the direction the market is moving," he
> said. "Part of that's luck and part of that's planning."
>
> Toyota, meanwhile, said its worldwide production expanded 7 percent from
> a year earlier to 2.54 million vehicles.
>
> Toyota said output of popular, fuel-efficient small cars such as the
> Corolla model grew strongly in China, while production of pickup trucks
> rose steadily in Thailand during the quarter.
>
> Some analysts say it's only a matter of time before Toyota -- which
> built its business in the decades after World War II by imitating
> American automakers -- overtakes GM in terms of annual global sales as
> well as production.
>
> GM shares rose 62 cents, or 3 percent, to $21.13, in midday trading
> Wednesday while Toyota fell 56 cents, or 0.56 percent, to $100.
>
> In the Japanese fiscal year through March 2008, Toyota's global output
> rose 6.4 percent from a year earlier to 9.66 million vehicles.
>
> Honda Motor Co., Japan's No. 2 automaker, said its global production
> rose 4.5 percent from a year ago to 1.02 million vehicles in the
> January-March quarter.
>
> Nissan Motor Co. said its global output rose 9.4 percent from a year ago
> to 950,878 vehicles during the quarter.
>
> --
> Civis Romanus Sum



All-in-all, I'd say it has turned out to be a nice day for one Jim
Higgins.Nice job there , Jimbo. Probably been waiting patiently for a
while to make this post. Meanwhile, I lost in the office pool by 12
minutes as to the exact time you would post this here.
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On Apr 24, 3:35 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote:
> What that article actually says is Toyota out sold GM by a few thousand
> vehicles worldwide for THREE months.   Toyota also out sold GM in 2007 for a
> number of months but at the end of the year GM outsold Toyota word wide.
> It is like believing "my team" won the game because they are ahead at the
> end of the fist half    LOL
>
> Toyota may indeed outsell GM worldwide by the end of the year because GM
> does not compete in all of the same market around the world.   GM does not
> build the same type of midget cars and trucks around the world that the
> Japanese build
>
> <coachros... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:acab4a32-2a9c-48d6-8b4b-4c58d24c74ef@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 23, 12:43 pm, Jim Higgins <gordian... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Toyota takes 1Q world sales lead from General
> > Motorshttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080423/gm_global_sales.html?.v=8
>
> > DETROIT (AP) -- Toyota has taken the global automotive sales lead from
> > General Motors, selling 2.41 million vehicles to GM's 2.25 million
> > during the first three months of the year.
>
> > GM said Wednesday its first-quarter sales dropped across the globe by
> > less than 1 percent, but Toyota said its sales were up 2.7 percent
> > during the January-March period.
>
> > ADVERTISEMENT
> > Toyota Motor Corp., Japan's top automaker, said its global sales rose on
> > the back of steady demand in Asia and strong demand in Europe.
>
> > General Motors Corp. barely won the global sales race with Toyota last
> > year. But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by
> > global vehicle production in 2007.
>
> > GM said it posted record sales in three of its four regions, but a 10
> > percent drop in North America pulled down the overall numbers. Sales
> > were up 8 percent outside of North America, the Detroit automaker said.
>
> > A record 64 percent of GM's sales in the latest quarter came from
> > outside the United States.
>
> > "While the challenges of the U.S. economy continue to put pressure on
> > the automotive industry there, we saw nearly 20 percent growth in the
> > Latin America, Africa and Middle East, and 6 percent growth in the Asia
> > Pacific region," John Middlebrook, GM vice president of global sales,
> > said in a statement.
>
> > GM sold roughly 2.27 million vehicles worldwide in the first quarter of
> > 2007.
>
> > Mike DiGiovanni, the company's executive director of global markets and
> > industry analysis, said Toyota outsold GM in the first quarter of last
> > year, too, yet GM was able to retake the lead by the end of the year.
>
> > He said the company is more focused on turning around its North American
> > operations and becoming profitable worldwide than it is on beating Toyota.
>
> > "We obviously want to win, and we'd like to be No. 1 in sales at the end
> > of the year," he said. "But really our focus right now is on profitable,
> > sustainable growth across the world."
>
> > There may not be any relief in the U.S., though, in the near-term.
>
> > DiGiovanni said the company now is thinking second-quarter sales will be
> > worse than the first quarter, largely because of rising gasoline prices.
> > But he said the fundamentals are in place for a recovery in the second
> > half of the year.
>
> > "This is clearly a headwind that we didn't anticipate to be at this
> > level, so that's factored into our thinking as well," he told reporters
> > and industry analysts on a conference call.
>
> > DiGiovanni said gasoline prices can't be predicted, but GM is preparing
> > for increases.
>
> > "It's affected by so many factors, both political, societal, tangible in
> > terms of what the actual physical reserves in the ground are and the
> > cost to get at them. It's affected by refineries. It's affected by
> > pipelines. It's affected by anything that can go wrong in the whole
> > chain. And now it's affected by speculation, which is driving part of
> > it. So I do not think this is something you can forecast," he said.
>
> > But DiGiovanni said GM does not use a "lower-bound" forecast anymore,
> > and it had raised its internal forecast aggressively.
>
> > With new cars and crossover vehicles already out or coming this year,
> > DiGiovanni said the company is well positioned to capture the market as
> > it continues to shift away from trucks and sport utility vehicles.
>
> > "Our portfolio is moving in the direction the market is moving," he
> > said. "Part of that's luck and part of that's planning."
>
> > Toyota, meanwhile, said its worldwide production expanded 7 percent from
> > a year earlier to 2.54 million vehicles.
>
> > Toyota said output of popular, fuel-efficient small cars such as the
> > Corolla model grew strongly in China, while production of pickup trucks
> > rose steadily in Thailand during the quarter.
>
> > Some analysts say it's only a matter of time before Toyota -- which
> > built its business in the decades after World War II by imitating
> > American automakers -- overtakes GM in terms of annual global sales as
> > well as production.
>
> > GM shares rose 62 cents, or 3 percent, to $21.13, in midday trading
> > Wednesday while Toyota fell 56 cents, or 0.56 percent, to $100.
>
> > In the Japanese fiscal year through March 2008, Toyota's global output
> > rose 6.4 percent from a year earlier to 9.66 million vehicles.
>
> > Honda Motor Co., Japan's No. 2 automaker, said its global production
> > rose 4.5 percent from a year ago to 1.02 million vehicles in the
> > January-March quarter.
>
> > Nissan Motor Co. said its global output rose 9.4 percent from a year ago
> > to 950,878 vehicles during the quarter.
>
> > --
> > Civis Romanus Sum
>
> All-in-all, I'd say it has turned out to be a nice day for one Jim
> Higgins.Nice job there , Jimbo. Probably been waiting patiently for a
> while to make this post. Meanwhile, I lost in the office pool by 12
> minutes as to the exact time you would post this here.
> -

What is important to note that for a number of years Toyota has been
growing while GM is going down.
They have only met now.
Toyota is bound to grow.
What happens to/with GM and how far down they go and how quickly is an
interesting study.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:09 pm
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It was not too long ago that the pundits and folks you where predicting that
Ford would soon out sell GM in the US. At the time Ford had seven of the
top ten selling vehicle in the US

I believe you are confusing market share with total sales. If you look at
the total world sales figures the market today, you will find it is FIVE
times what it was around the time GM sold around 50% of all the vehicles
sold in the US. Today at around 32% of the market in the US they are
selling more vehicles than they did back then. Wink

LOL

"Gosi" <gosinn.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 24, 3:35 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun....TakeThisOut@lycos.com> wrote:
> What that article actually says is Toyota out sold GM by a few thousand
> vehicles worldwide for THREE months. Toyota also out sold GM in 2007 for
> a
> number of months but at the end of the year GM outsold Toyota word wide.
> It is like believing "my team" won the game because they are ahead at the
> end of the fist half LOL
>
> Toyota may indeed outsell GM worldwide by the end of the year because GM
> does not compete in all of the same market around the world. GM does not
> build the same type of midget cars and trucks around the world that the
> Japanese build
>
> <coachros....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:acab4a32-2a9c-48d6-8b4b-
What is important to note that for a number of years Toyota has been
growing while GM is going down.
They have only met now.
Toyota is bound to grow.
What happens to/with GM and how far down they go and how quickly is an
interesting study.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:22 pm
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On Apr 25, 11:09 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote:
> It was not too long ago that the pundits and folks you where predicting that
> Ford would soon out sell GM in the US.   At the time Ford had seven of the
> top ten selling vehicle in the US
>
> I believe you are confusing market share with total sales.   If you look at
> the total world sales figures the market today, you will find it is FIVE
> times what it was around the time GM sold around 50% of all the vehicles
> sold in the US.   Today at around 32% of the market in the US they are
> selling more vehicles than they did back then.       Wink
>
>  LOL
>
> "Gosi" <gos... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c5556d45-535f-4263-b56d-5a3b7e1407aa@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 24, 3:35 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote:> What that article actually says is Toyota out sold GM by a few thousand
> > vehicles worldwide for THREE months.   Toyota also out sold GM in 2007 for
> > a
> > number of months but at the end of the year GM outsold Toyota word wide.
> > It is like believing "my team" won the game because they are ahead at the
> > end of the fist half    LOL
>
> > Toyota may indeed outsell GM worldwide by the end of the year because GM
> > does not compete in all of the same market around the world.   GM does not
> > build the same type of midget cars and trucks around the world that the
> > Japanese build
>
> > <coachros... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > news:acab4a32-2a9c-48d6-8b4b-
>
> What is important to note that for a number of years Toyota has been
> growing while GM is going down.
> They have only met now.
> Toyota is bound to grow.
> What happens to/with GM and how far down they go and how quickly is an
> interesting study.

FWIW GM is closing down plants and fighting the UAW in order to be
able to cut costs.
GM is losing money hand over fist.
It is a fashinating study of how not to run a company.
It is interesting that GM is doing ok outside the US.
They are better off closing down the US operations.
The question is when they will spin the US operations off.
It will then be interesting to see how the two companies will do.
GMJekyll vs GMHyde.
Following the slow death of GM is like being on a safari and seing an
elephant under attach by lions.
The Elephant has fallen on one knee now.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:42 am
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On Apr 26, 6:22 am, Gosi <gos... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 11:09 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It was not too long ago that the pundits and folks you where predicting that
> > Ford would soon out sell GM in the US.   At the time Ford had seven of the
> > top ten selling vehicle in the US
>
> > I believe you are confusing market share with total sales.   If you look at
> > the total world sales figures the market today, you will find it is FIVE
> > times what it was around the time GM sold around 50% of all the vehicles
> > sold in the US.   Today at around 32% of the market in the US they are
> > selling more vehicles than they did back then.       Wink
>
> >  LOL
>
> > "Gosi" <gos... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:c5556d45-535f-4263-b56d-5a3b7e1407aa@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 24, 3:35 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote:> What that article actually says is Toyota out sold GM by a few thousand
> > > vehicles worldwide for THREE months.   Toyota also out sold GM in 2007 for
> > > a
> > > number of months but at the end of the year GM outsold Toyota word wide.
> > > It is like believing "my team" won the game because they are ahead at the
> > > end of the fist half    LOL
>
> > > Toyota may indeed outsell GM worldwide by the end of the year because GM
> > > does not compete in all of the same market around the world.   GM does not
> > > build the same type of midget cars and trucks around the world that the
> > > Japanese build
>
> > > <coachros... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > news:acab4a32-2a9c-48d6-8b4b-
>
> > What is important to note that for a number of years Toyota has been
> > growing while GM is going down.
> > They have only met now.
> > Toyota is bound to grow.
> > What happens to/with GM and how far down they go and how quickly is an
> > interesting study.
>
> FWIW GM is closing down plants and fighting the UAW in order to be
> able to cut costs.
> GM is losing money hand over fist.
> It is a fashinating study of how not to run a company.
> It is interesting that GM is doing ok outside the US.
> They are better off closing down the US operations.
> The question is when they will spin the US operations off.
> It will then be interesting to see how the two companies will do.
> GMJekyll vs GMHyde.
> Following the slow death of GM is like being on a safari and seing an
> elephant under attach by lions.
> The Elephant has fallen on one knee now.

Rick Wagoner got paid $14.4m for ‘07 which is more money than the top
9 executives of Toyota, combined.
It is $39,452.05 per day (including weekends)
The rats are taking as much with them as they can from the sinking
ship.
How many cars does GM need to fool onto its customers every day just
to pay one stupid guy who is rapidly running the company to the
ground?
Actually GM is not making any money on the cars.
GM is losing money on every car so the money to pay the top rats is
taken from shareholders.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:41 pm
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On Apr 23, 9:55 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" <e....RemoveThis@snet.net> wrote:
> <coachros....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> All-in-all, I'd say it has turned out to be a nice day for one Jim
> Higgins.Nice job there , Jimbo. Probably been waiting patiently for a
> while to make this post. Meanwhile, I lost in the office pool by 12
> minutes as to the exact time you would post this here.
>
> ***********************************
>
> I can understand bashing someone badmouthing GM when not deserved, but like
> it or not, he posted real facts.  Rather that get upset over reality, do
> something about it to change people's perception of US made cars or pressure
> the car makers to make any needed changes.
> -

I DID try to change people's perception of US made cars. I tried to
bomb Consumer Reports headquarters, but my defective, Toyota-made bomb
was suddenly recalled, but I am happy that at least they did "take
care of me".
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:47 pm
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On Apr 23, 10:43 pm, "Mike" <m... RemoveThis @localnet.com> wrote:
> "80 Knight" <nos... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
>
> news:SNSdnaF7Rb0x6ZLVnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> > "Jim Higgins" <gordian... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:gM2dnYt0_dvX-pLVnZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@eaglecomputertechnology...
> >> But Toyota overtook GM as the world's top automaker as measured by global
> >> vehicle production in 2007.
>
> > Does that include all the recalled vehicles too?  Toyota is also #1 there.
>
>   Yes, that includes recalled vehicles too. Toyota, unlike GM, recalls

> GM just says screw the customer, let them pay for the repair.

Let's see, here. Toyota now sells more vehicles than GM does, and
RECALLS more vechicles that it sells! They must make a helluva lot of
cars that "they didn't build right!" Myself, I'll just continue to
buy GM, and not worry about having my vehicle recalled to begin with.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:19 am
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On Apr 26, 9:42 am, Gosi <gos... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 6:22 am, Gosi <gos... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 25, 11:09 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... DeleteThis @lycos.com> wrote:
>
> > > It was not too long ago that the pundits and folks you where predicting that
> > > Ford would soon out sell GM in the US.   At the time Ford had seven of the
> > > top ten selling vehicle in the US
>
> > > I believe you are confusing market share with total sales.   If you look at
> > > the total world sales figures the market today, you will find it is FIVE
> > > times what it was around the time GM sold around 50% of all the vehicles
> > > sold in the US.   Today at around 32% of the market in the US they are
> > > selling more vehicles than they did back then.       Wink
>
> > >  LOL
>
> > > "Gosi" <gos... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:c5556d45-535f-4263-b56d-5a3b7e1407aa@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com....
> > > On Apr 24, 3:35 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... DeleteThis @lycos.com> wrote:> What that article actually says is Toyota out sold GM by a few thousand
> > > > vehicles worldwide for THREE months.   Toyota also out sold GM in 2007 for
> > > > a
> > > > number of months but at the end of the year GM outsold Toyota word wide.
> > > > It is like believing "my team" won the game because they are ahead at the
> > > > end of the fist half    LOL
>
> > > > Toyota may indeed outsell GM worldwide by the end of the year because GM
> > > > does not compete in all of the same market around the world.   GM does not
> > > > build the same type of midget cars and trucks around the world that the
> > > > Japanese build
>
> > > > <coachros... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > news:acab4a32-2a9c-48d6-8b4b-
>
> > > What is important to note that for a number of years Toyota has been
> > > growing while GM is going down.
> > > They have only met now.
> > > Toyota is bound to grow.
> > > What happens to/with GM and how far down they go and how quickly is an
> > > interesting study.
>
> > FWIW GM is closing down plants and fighting the UAW in order to be
> > able to cut costs.
> > GM is losing money hand over fist.
> > It is a fashinating study of how not to run a company.
> > It is interesting that GM is doing ok outside the US.
> > They are better off closing down the US operations.
> > The question is when they will spin the US operations off.
> > It will then be interesting to see how the two companies will do.
> > GMJekyll vs GMHyde.
> > Following the slow death of GM is like being on a safari and seing an
> > elephant under attach by lions.
> > The Elephant has fallen on one knee now.
>
> Rick Wagoner got paid $14.4m for ‘07 which is more money than the top
> 9 executives of Toyota, combined.
> It is $39,452.05 per day (including weekends)
> The rats are taking as much with them as they can from the sinking
> ship.
> How many cars does GM need to fool onto its customers every day just
> to pay one stupid guy who is rapidly running the company to the
> ground?
> Actually GM is not making any money on the cars.
> GM is losing money on every car so the money to pay the top rats is
> taken from shareholders.

It is quite informative to look at the trends in Detroit.
It is now the poorest city in the US.
It reached its peak in 1950 and has been declining ever since.
It had 1.8 million people 1950 and is down to 900.000 now and decline
predicted for the next decades.
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