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Detailing Dude

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:56 pm
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A general question for those more intelligent than I:
Is it acceptable to replace only one front tire? My 2005 Passat TDI had a
nail in the Sidewall. 32000 miles on the original tires. They still have
lots of life in them.
We have insurance on the tires and the dealer replaced the one tire only.
Will this put undo stress on the front end?

Cecil

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Joseph Meehan

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:35 pm
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At 32,000 miles the old tyres are likely to have far less tread than a
new tyre. I If the left/right balance is upset, then if you have a need to
do an emergency stop, it could be enough to cause you to loose control. I
would replace two tyres.

Now you have two new tyres and two older tyres. You want the new ones
on the back. Yes on the back. In that emergency stop you want to keep the
back end in the back, but if the front tyres are holding better, then the
tendency is for the back tyres to loose traction and swing around to the
front giving you no chance of controlling the car. Hopefully you have never
and will never experience this, but do put the good tyres on the back.

This can be serious in the summer, but in snow or on ice, it becomes
much more likely to create a serious safety problem.

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Joseph Meehan

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"Detailing Dude" <detailingdude.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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> A general question for those more intelligent than I:
> Is it acceptable to replace only one front tire? My 2005 Passat TDI had a
> nail in the Sidewall. 32000 miles on the original tires. They still have
> lots of life in them.
> We have insurance on the tires and the dealer replaced the one tire only.
> Will this put undo stress on the front end?
>
> Cecil
>
>

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Jim Behning

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:45 pm
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If your car is like mine there is a brand new full size tire in the
trunk. Well there was until I bought 3 new tires and used the trunk
tire. Next set I had to buy 4 new tires. I would at least have 2 tires
with the same amount of wear on the same axle.

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:35:38 -0500, "Joseph Meehan"
<sligoNoSPAMjoe.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> At 32,000 miles the old tyres are likely to have far less tread than a
>new tyre. I If the left/right balance is upset, then if you have a need to
>do an emergency stop, it could be enough to cause you to loose control. I
>would replace two tyres.
>
> Now you have two new tyres and two older tyres. You want the new ones
>on the back. Yes on the back. In that emergency stop you want to keep the
>back end in the back, but if the front tyres are holding better, then the
>tendency is for the back tyres to loose traction and swing around to the
>front giving you no chance of controlling the car. Hopefully you have never
>and will never experience this, but do put the good tyres on the back.
>
> This can be serious in the summer, but in snow or on ice, it becomes
>much more likely to create a serious safety problem.
>
>--
>Joseph Meehan
>
> Dia 's Muire duit
>
>
>
>"Detailing Dude" <detailingdude.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> A general question for those more intelligent than I:
>> Is it acceptable to replace only one front tire? My 2005 Passat TDI had a
>> nail in the Sidewall. 32000 miles on the original tires. They still have
>> lots of life in them.
>> We have insurance on the tires and the dealer replaced the one tire only.
>> Will this put undo stress on the front end?
>>
>> Cecil
>>
>>
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Lost In Space/Woodchuck

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:53 pm
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just depends if thread depth is close to new tire? Or... maybe it's time for
the other tire to get a hole in sidewall!


"Detailing Dude" <detailingdude RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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>A general question for those more intelligent than I:
> Is it acceptable to replace only one front tire? My 2005 Passat TDI had a
> nail in the Sidewall. 32000 miles on the original tires. They still have
> lots of life in them.
> We have insurance on the tires and the dealer replaced the one tire only.
> Will this put undo stress on the front end?
>
> Cecil
>
>
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none2u

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:52 am
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"Lost In Space/Woodchuck" <hanlon189 DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> just depends if thread depth is close to new tire? Or... maybe it's time
> for the other tire to get a hole in sidewall!
>
>
> "Detailing Dude" <detailingdude DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
> news:5W%wj.20776$y05.8007@newsfe22.lga...
>>A general question for those more intelligent than I:
>> Is it acceptable to replace only one front tire? My 2005 Passat TDI had a
>> nail in the Sidewall. 32000 miles on the original tires. They still have
>> lots of life in them.
>> We have insurance on the tires and the dealer replaced the one tire only.
>> Will this put undo stress on the front end?
>>
>> Cecil
>>
>>
>
>It will not stress your front end. It would be best if its the same brand
>tire and size as the other front tire. It may however make your steering
>wheel slightly off center. And your car may appear to track better , or
>ride smoother after the new tire is installed.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:47 pm
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"Jim Behning" <jimbehning.DeleteThis@doesthisblockpork.mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> If your car is like mine there is a brand new full size tire in the
> trunk. Well there was until I bought 3 new tires and used the trunk
> tire. Next set I had to buy 4 new tires. I would at least have 2 tires
> with the same amount of wear on the same axle.

Yeah I think what I'd do is if the spare is full size, put the spare tire
and a new tire up front and then throw the used-but-good front tire in the
trunk as the spare.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:51 pm
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"Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAMjoe.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> At 32,000 miles the old tyres are likely to have far less tread than a
> new tyre. I If the left/right balance is upset, then if you have a need
> to do an emergency stop, it could be enough to cause you to loose control.
> I would replace two tyres.
>
> Now you have two new tyres and two older tyres. You want the new ones
> on the back. Yes on the back. In that emergency stop you want to keep
> the back end in the back, but if the front tyres are holding better, then
> the tendency is for the back tyres to loose traction and swing around to
> the front giving you no chance of controlling the car. Hopefully you have
> never and will never experience this, but do put the good tyres on the
> back.
>
> This can be serious in the summer, but in snow or on ice, it becomes
> much more likely to create a serious safety problem.

Hmmmm I'm not so sure I agree w/this. We're talking a front-drive car here
so the weight, turning forces, and drive power are all on the front tires
placing more stress and wear on them than the rear tires. Front-drivers are
notorious understeerers too and not overly prone to oversteer. Since the
fronts wear faster than the rears on all front-drivers, the logic above
(best on back) would dictate that you would never therefore rotate the tires
on a front driver...you would wear out the fronts, then move the rears to
the front, and buy new ones for the back. We all know that isn't the case.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:07 am
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"Matt B." <noway.TakeThisOut@hellno.com> wrote in message
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> "Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAMjoe.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> At 32,000 miles the old tyres are likely to have far less tread than a
>> new tyre. I If the left/right balance is upset, then if you have a need
>> to do an emergency stop, it could be enough to cause you to loose
>> control. I would replace two tyres.
>>
>> Now you have two new tyres and two older tyres. You want the new ones
>> on the back. Yes on the back. In that emergency stop you want to keep
>> the back end in the back, but if the front tyres are holding better, then
>> the tendency is for the back tyres to loose traction and swing around to
>> the front giving you no chance of controlling the car. Hopefully you
>> have never and will never experience this, but do put the good tyres on
>> the back.
>>
>> This can be serious in the summer, but in snow or on ice, it becomes
>> much more likely to create a serious safety problem.
>
> Hmmmm I'm not so sure I agree w/this. We're talking a front-drive car
> here so the weight, turning forces, and drive power are all on the front
> tires placing more stress and wear on them than the rear tires.
> Front-drivers are notorious understeerers too and not overly prone to
> oversteer. Since the fronts wear faster than the rears on all
> front-drivers, the logic above (best on back) would dictate that you would
> never therefore rotate the tires on a front driver...you would wear out
> the fronts, then move the rears to the front, and buy new ones for the
> back. We all know that isn't the case.
>>> It depends on if you can really drive or not. The safety issue is the
>>> worn rears breaking loose in winter because they have less traction .
>>> Its not about stopping. It about going around corners and having the
>>> rear slide out . Because the fronts have more traction. However if you
>>> can drive sideways . Like a sprint car. And turn the steering wheel the
>>> correct way. You can get around faster and its more fun too. Everyone
>>> doesn't loose control. (per the poster above. ) But if you just mosey
>>> around, Are an oblivious driver, And have no idea what's going on
>>> around you. Or cant or wont respond quick. Or have trouble with the idea
>>> of driving being work. Then forget what I said. And put the new tires on
>>> the back. Wear out the fronts. Buy two new ones and put them on the
>>> back. And move the rears to the front. As far as wear goes. Assuming I
>>> am starting from new. I wear my fronts down halfway. Rotate them front
>>> to back . Wear the fronts down all the way . At which time one or two
>>> are gone. or have plugs, cuts, or dry rotting maybe . I buy four new
>>> ones and keep the best of the worn ones as a spare.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:51 pm
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"none2u" <none2u.TakeThisOut@notrealatall.bye> wrote in message
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>>>> It depends on if you can really drive or not. The safety issue is the
>>>> worn rears breaking loose in winter because they have less traction .
>>>> Its not about stopping. It about going around corners and having the
>>>> rear slide out . Because the fronts have more traction. However if you
>>>> can drive sideways . Like a sprint car. And turn the steering wheel the
>>>> correct way. You can get around faster and its more fun too. Everyone
>>>> doesn't loose control. (per the poster above. ) But if you just mosey
>>>> around, Are an oblivious driver, And have no idea what's going on
>>>> around you. Or cant or wont respond quick. Or have trouble with the
>>>> idea of driving being work. Then forget what I said. And put the new
>>>> tires on the back. Wear out the fronts. Buy two new ones and put them
>>>> on the back. And move the rears to the front. As far as wear goes.
>>>> Assuming I am starting from new. I wear my fronts down halfway.
>>>> Rotate them front to back . Wear the fronts down all the way . At which
>>>> time one or two are gone. or have plugs, cuts, or dry rotting maybe .
>>>> I buy four new ones and keep the best of the worn ones as a spare.

IIRC we're talking about a late model Passat here...a car likely to have ABS
and possibly even stability control. It's already designed to help you out
quite a bit. I'd keep the best ones on the front where the weight is and
let the car deal with the rest.
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