Ford Tempo Brakes: Can't Remove Caliper Pens

First, you cant do it with a standard allen wrench. The application calls
for an allen SOCKET. The L shaped allen everyone has bends and limits the
torque applied.


Second, give the head a couple good sharp blows with a hammer. Not on
side, on the top. That will loosen the bond enough to get it started with
a healthy grunt.


"Larry R Harrison Jr" <noone RemoveThis @noone.net> wrote in
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> I am trying to fix the brakes on my Ford Tempo (earlier thread) and am
> at the point of trying to remove those 2 screws that hold the caliper
> on.
>
> Excuse my language, but good God DAMN!!!
>
> They apparently are 3/8" allen-wrenches, and I have an
> allen-wrench--but try try try as I may, that damn screw WILL NOT MOVE!
> It won't budge an inch.
>
> What kind of tool do I need to remove this thing? It's on so tight, I
> don't think even a freaking CRANE could get this thing off.
>
> What tool would work, and also if I may--why do these freaks think
> they have to put something on so dag-deemed tight? Who do they think
> is working on these cars, Godzilla?
>
> LRH
>
>
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Thanks for the replies. What was needed was a T-47 "star socket," I think
3/8 is the right size.

The Chilton Manual I was borrowing said I needed "Tork Park Number
xxx-xxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxx" or something like that. I'm like--wouldn't T-47 Star
Socket make the point?

The other thing, too--pardon me for sounding like the rank weekend warrior I
admit to being, but why in the world can't they decide ONE single type of
screw--be it bolt, single-slot screw, philips-head screw, allen,
star-socket--whatever--and have every single last thing in the world be
assembled with that one type and absolutely NOTHING else at all? Why all the
types? It clearly isn't necessary.

Sure, the different SIZES are; after all, you're talking about applications
that could range from eyeglasses to bridges, obviously you're going to have
a huge running of the gamut with sizes, makes sense. But with all these
different TYPES, I'm thinking--standardize already. For crying out loud, you
have to own like $1000 worth of tools to work on anything, and that is just
ridiculous.

On the other hand, my computer basically only needs 2-philips head
screwdrivers in TOTAL for everything. I can use my Philips head screwdriver
and ratchet set and work on 99 1/2% of everything around my house--including
all the furniture & any appliances. Why do cars have to have such a HUGE
running of the gamut? It just makes no sense to me.

Frankly, their ought to be a law mandating that car makers can use only ONE
type, total, for everything right down to the sun visors and the engine
bolts. You are allowed to use EITHER a bolt, an allen, a star socket, a
slotted screw, or a Phililps head screw for every last
thing--size-variations obviously would be allowed (no way the same screw
that holds up the sun visor could be the same one that holds the engine in
place), but as for types--it would be forbidden BY LAW to have ANY and I
mean ANY variations in "type" of screws. No variations allowed, none,
whatsoever. Period. That way, a car owner could simply own the various sizes
of ONE TYPE and fix every last thing on his/her car.

LRH
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No offence but, I think your idea is pretty darn close to what Hitler had in mind with the "peoples car". Just my observation.

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"Larry R Harrison Jr" <larrytucaz.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in news:bIgLe.2997
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> --it would be forbidden BY LAW to have ANY and I
> mean ANY variations in "type" of screws.

Then they should outlaw phillips... would you like that?



I was about to make the same comment.."why would they use allen on a tempo?
Ford only uses torx or hex bolt."

But I figgered you could see if it were a star shape or not.

cheers
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Larry R Harrison Jr, I feel your pain. We have standard sizes (thoe they vary from standard to metric). in some cases it may even make sense to have different patterns (dont want flathead in high torque, and cant have star in eyeglass size). With cars what usually happens is they get the seatbelts from company A and the Door hinges from company B. besides, all the people at craftsman would lose there job if all i had to buy was an allen wrench set. what I hate more is when you have to buy a custom tool to work on the 2005 model, when the 2004 model could be done with something standard, and its the exact same setup!!!!
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Thanks for the clarifications. I suppose if it saves assembly-line time and
thus keeps the price of the car down (to say nothing of the importance of
preventing on-the-job injuries), I suppose I could see it. But then, if
that's the case, why not use the Torx on everything--from eyeglasses to
bridges, if it's so good?

Just keep us weekend-warriors from having to spend so much money on tools
(to say nothing of the clutter of keeping up with so many); after all, we're
doing this ourselves to save money to begin with.

LRH
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