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Since: Apr 15, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 11:55 pm
Post subject: New Tacoma
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| Just a quick survey. Does anyone here own a 2005 Tacoma? I'm on the verge
of buying one, and want some opinions about them. kinda going back and
forth between the Tacoma and the new Nissan Frontier. let me know how you
like 'em! TIA
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 8:55 am
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Haywood wrote:
> Just a quick survey. Does anyone here own a 2005 Tacoma?
Yes. I love it. I've got a 4.0L V6 6 speed 4x4 TRD w/ towing Access
Cab. It replaced a 2001 Subaru Outback wagon that replaced a 1996
Nissan King Cab. The Subrau was my first time without a truck, and
while it's a GREAT car, I missed a truck. The Taco is head and
shoulders above the King Cab, but the new Frontier is a nice truck. The
Toyota / Nissan decision was extremely close. Toyota won me over with
the oil filter. <G>
I think the new size is perfect. My last Toyota truck went 300k in 11
years before I drove it to the junkyard. I also investigated the
Dakota, Tundra, F150, Canyon, Frontier, and Silverado before the purchase.
Things I like about my Tacoma:
* _THE SIZE_ - Not too big, but bigger than the old Taco
* Nice power to weight balance.
* TIGHT turn radius & GREAT handling!!!
* Easy access to maintenance items, like the oil filter
* Plastic bed (get a rubber mat to keep stuff in place)
* Tie down system
* Toyota's top-end seats are without peer.
* Off-road and towing ability
Things I don't like (some don't apply to mine):
* Aftermarket manufacturers (like Thule & Yakima) are a bit behind the
curve with bed accessories, due to the new design. I'm sure this will
change.
* The low-end seats stink. Sit in them if you're considering them.
* 6 speed could feel a pit tighter, but it's not _bad_
Why I chose the Taco over others (one man's opinion):
F150 - too big, mushy road feel, auto & V8 only
Silverado - too big, spotty build
Ram - she's a real porker!
Colorado - a real dog, cheap feeling and looking interior
Dakota - Nice, but it just didn't give me the same Karma. <G>
Tundra - V8 & auto only
Frontier - it all came down to the oil filter, I HATED changing the oil
in my King Cab, and the new one isn't that much better. Otherwise, a
really nice truck. If the Toyota dealer had played total price hardball
with me, I would have bought the Frontier.
My truck is 3 months old, with no delivery or warranty issues so far. A
few very early owners reported a cowl leak, which Toyota has a TSB out
for. My truck is not affected.
Have fun,
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 8:55 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:55 am
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"Haywood" <Haywood_Yablome RemoveThis @lycos.comm> wrote in message
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> Just a quick survey. Does anyone here own a 2005 Tacoma? I'm on the
> verge
> of buying one, and want some opinions about them. kinda going back and
> forth between the Tacoma and the new Nissan Frontier. let me know how you
> like 'em! TIA
If the 05 is anything like the 02, be prepared for quite a few people in
adjacent cars to say "Hey...nice truck!" Mostly young women. Is this of any
value to you? 
I have no idea if the Nissan looks as nice, or produces similar results.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: New Tacoma |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:55 pm
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Brad P wrote:
> How do you find your gas mileage with your V6?
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I'm getting 15-17 on 91+, with very little highway driving. I've still
only got about 1200 miles on it, with some towing and off-roading. The
first two tanks were 13-14, so I expect it to get better for a while. I
usually go to Mobil 1 @ 5k. I don't see why the high end of the 16-20
EPA rating shouldn't be possible for a reasonable driver without towing
and four wheeling. We also get 10% ethanol gas where I live.
As a driving habit comparison, my Subaru Outback was rated 24-28, and
pretty much ran 24 MPG all the time from 5k to when I sold it w/ 39k.
That car didn't really hit 24 until about 5k miles, it seemed to take a
long time to break in. I was kind of a lead foot with that car, 'cause
it really seemed to like that sort of thing.
I've seen some gas mileage complaints on some message boards, but
digging a bit turns up the following: 1.) All complaints are actually
*within* the window sticker's advertised EPA ratings. 2.) Many of the
trucks are still inside the first listed oil change (5k) 3.) Many of
the same posters post about how they love the truck's power. <G>
I wonder if some of the complainers didn't look at the ratings, or just
assumed that it would get the same mileage as an older Taco. The older
trucks are smaller, lighter, and lower profile with 55 less HP. Size
and ooomph! aren't free!
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:55 pm
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please.TakeThisOut@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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> Brad P wrote:
>> How do you find your gas mileage with your V6?
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> I'm getting 15-17 on 91+, with very little highway driving. I've still
> only got about 1200 miles on it, with some towing and off-roading. The
> first two tanks were 13-14, so I expect it to get better for a while. I
> usually go to Mobil 1 @ 5k. I don't see why the high end of the 16-20 EPA
> rating shouldn't be possible for a reasonable driver without towing and
> four wheeling. We also get 10% ethanol gas where I live.
You'll hit 21-22 on the highway at 65mph. But, one caveat: Unless the cruise
control's programmed differently in the 05 than the 02, don't bother using
it on roads with significant hills. It doesn't sense the beginning of a hill
until the truck's slowed quite a bit, and then when it finally does, it
floors the gas - seems to go directly to 2nd gear, if I'm listening to the
auto tranny accurately. Most cruise controls are lousy with hills, since
they can see them coming ahead of time, but the Tacoma's is more brutal than
the one on my previous car, a 92 Taurus. That CC would begin by dropping out
of overdrive, and stepping down a gear at a time if necessary.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: New Tacoma |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:55 pm
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please RemoveThis @thankyou.com> sez:
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> I'm getting 15-17 on 91+, with very little highway driving. I've still
> only got about 1200 miles on it, with some towing and off-roading. The
> first two tanks were 13-14, so I expect it to get better for a while. I
> usually go to Mobil 1 @ 5k. I don't see why the high end of the 16-20
> EPA rating shouldn't be possible for a reasonable driver without towing
> and four wheeling. We also get 10% ethanol gas where I live.
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> As a driving habit comparison, my Subaru Outback was rated 24-28, and
> pretty much ran 24 MPG all the time from 5k to when I sold it w/ 39k.
> That car didn't really hit 24 until about 5k miles, it seemed to take a
> long time to break in.<snip>
My Toyota experiences (4 of them - all with Mobil 1) have been that it takes
10,000-15,000 mi. for them to fully break in and start giving you optimum
mileage. Too bad 'bout the 10% ethanol, you have to subtract 10% from what
you'd get for mpg with straight gas.
I prefer to run mid-to-low grade octane fuel in my Tundra/Sequoia ... there
is little or nothing to be gained with paying for the high octane stuff.
Good ridin' to ya,
VLJ
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims
may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons
than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may
sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who
torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with
the approval of their own conscience.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 2:55 pm
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vlj wrote:
> I prefer to run mid-to-low grade octane fuel in my Tundra/Sequoia ... there
> is little or nothing to be gained with paying for the high octane stuff.
I usually agree, except Toyota recommends 91 on this truck. Rumor has
it that it was originally required, but the manual was changed to
"recommended" when fuel prices shot up.
There is a measurable mileage and performance gain with 91 vs. 87 in my
truck. The exhaust note has noticeable pinging running on 87 w/ 10%
ethanol.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 2:55 pm
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Doug Kanter wrote:
> You'll hit 21-22 on the highway at 65mph. But, one caveat: Unless the cruise
> control's programmed differently in the 05 than the 02, don't bother using
> it on roads with significant hills. It doesn't sense the beginning of a hill
> until the truck's slowed quite a bit, and then when it finally does, it
> floors the gas - seems to go directly to 2nd gear, if I'm listening to the
> auto tranny accurately.
Mine doesn't do that as it's a manual tranny, and the '05 has more power
than a 2002. The '02 had 190HP, 220 ft/lbs, the '05 has 245HP, 282
ft/lbs.
I can easily accelerate up a significant hill from 65 in 6th gear, which
might explain the 16 MPG. <G>
During early shopping, I drove some '02's and the power difference is
startling.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 2:55 pm
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please.TakeThisOut@thankyou.com> sez:
> vlj wrote:
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> > I prefer to run mid-to-low grade octane fuel in my Tundra/Sequoia ...
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> > is little or nothing to be gained with paying for the high octane stuff.
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> I usually agree, except Toyota recommends 91 on this truck. Rumor has
> it that it was originally required, but the manual was changed to
> "recommended" when fuel prices shot up.
Hmmm, interesting. I'm thinking 'bout a Tacoma for the kid who is nearing
driving age ... I'll have to look into that a little closer.
> There is a measurable mileage and performance gain with 91 vs. 87 in my
> truck. The exhaust note has noticeable pinging running on 87 w/ 10%
> ethanol.
Again, too bad you have that ethanol shit foisted on you. It's just a
taxpayer subsidized give away to Arther Daniels Midland ...
I do notice a bit of "seat of the pants" performance difference between 85
and 87 octane in my Tundra but haven't had the time or inclination to do any
kind of exhaustive performance comparisons. It burns 85 fine but I am
running at 5000 ft. and higher in elevation.
Good ridin' to ya,
VLJ
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims
may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons
than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may
sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who
torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with
the approval of their own conscience.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 4:55 pm
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"vlj" <v.TakeThisOut@l.j> wrote in message news:WIOdnfUA88xV2RffRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> "B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please.TakeThisOut@thankyou.com> sez:
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>> vlj wrote:
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>> > I prefer to run mid-to-low grade octane fuel in my Tundra/Sequoia ...
> there
>> > is little or nothing to be gained with paying for the high octane
>> > stuff.
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>> I usually agree, except Toyota recommends 91 on this truck. Rumor has
>> it that it was originally required, but the manual was changed to
>> "recommended" when fuel prices shot up.
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> Hmmm, interesting. I'm thinking 'bout a Tacoma for the kid who is nearing
> driving age ... I'll have to look into that a little closer.
How often does he tow something, or haul things that would bother the
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:21 pm
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I'm also looking at a Tacoma or Frontier. The main sticking point for me on the Tacoma is I need a canoe rack. On my current Ranger, I just stick it in the stake pockets, which the Tacoma doesn't have (don't know yet about the Frontier). Barry, in another thread you talked about racks. Have you found anything out? Would it be possible to cut holes in the side rails or attach to the side of the bed? I was also wondering if the cross bars would help in attachment. Anybody know how strong they are?
Also, I've seen some threads about bad paint on the Tacoma, especially at the bottom on the doors. Lots of chipping from road debris thrown up by the front tires I think. Anyone here have any problems? >> Stay informed about: New Tacoma |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:41 pm
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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> sez:
> "vlj" <v.DeleteThis@l.j> wrote in message news:WIOdnfUA88xV2RffRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> > "B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please.DeleteThis@thankyou.com> sez:
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> >> vlj wrote:
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> >> > I prefer to run mid-to-low grade octane fuel in my Tundra/Sequoia ...
> > there
> >> > is little or nothing to be gained with paying for the high octane
> >> > stuff.
> >>
> >> I usually agree, except Toyota recommends 91 on this truck. Rumor has
> >> it that it was originally required, but the manual was changed to
> >> "recommended" when fuel prices shot up.
> >
> > Hmmm, interesting. I'm thinking 'bout a Tacoma for the kid who is
nearing
> > driving age ... I'll have to look into that a little closer.
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> How often does he tow something, or haul things that would bother the
> suspension of a normal car?
Every time he goes out riding his dirtbike. I dunno 'bout you, but I don't
particularly like wedging over two hundred pounds of machine into the trunk
or whiffing fumes from a 5 gallon gas can in the back seat ... You choose
your ride and we'll choose ours, eh?
Good transportin' to ya,
VLJ
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims
may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons
than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may
sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who
torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:55 am
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Love mine,
And resale is higher on the Toy ,If you ever ever need to sell..
"Haywood" <Haywood_Yablome.TakeThisOut@lycos.comm> wrote in message
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> Just a quick survey. Does anyone here own a 2005 Tacoma? I'm on the
> verge
> of buying one, and want some opinions about them. kinda going back and
> forth between the Tacoma and the new Nissan Frontier. let me know how you
> like 'em! TIA<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: New Tacoma |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:55 am
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In article <oPyie.983$kj7.504@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, NoSp RemoveThis @mhere.com
says...
> Love mine,
> And resale is higher on the Toy ,If you ever ever need to sell..
>
> "Haywood" <Haywood_Yablome RemoveThis @lycos.comm> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1cf32bdeef4f9039989722@news.bellatlantic.net...
> > Just a quick survey. Does anyone here own a 2005 Tacoma? I'm on the
> > verge
> > of buying one, and want some opinions about them. kinda going back and
> > forth between the Tacoma and the new Nissan Frontier. let me know how you
> > like 'em! TIA
Thanks for all the response. It seems Toy owners love their trucks! I'm
leaning towards the new Taco myself. Any thoughts about the crew cab vs. the
extended cab? I assume they ride and handle about the same. The wheelbase
is the same...only the bed is shorter? TIA
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