Sebring driving noise

at the risk of saying "Me too", I had a similar event recently and it
turned out to be a front wheel bearing.

This was at a relatively low 30,000 km. I think there may be a quality
issue with these bearings as that is way too soon imho.

I was not able to get any "co-pay" in the work "due to the age of the
vehicle"
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wheel bearing

Spam Hater wrote:

> My wife's 2001 V6 Sebring Sedan has developed a loud driving noise.
> It doesn't appear to be the tires and is sometimes almost like a growl,
> which becomes loud after 50kph (30mph).
> It started about a month back.
>
> Any ideas what it is?
> I suspect a bearing in a wheel or the drive train.
>
> TIA.
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In article <EvKdnZ7eb6TyTGPeRVn-qQ RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
"maxpower" <damnnickname RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Spam Hater" <iHate RemoveThis @spam.net> wrote in message
> news:iHate-8ADABA.22381623022006@news.telus.net...
> > My wife's 2001 V6 Sebring Sedan has developed a loud driving noise.
> > It doesn't appear to be the tires and is sometimes almost like a growl,
> > which becomes loud after 50kph (30mph).
> > It started about a month back.
> >
> > Any ideas what it is?
> > I suspect a bearing in a wheel or the drive train.
> >
> > TIA.
>
> If you sway the vehicle from side to side as the noise is happening will it
> change or go away as you do it?
> Possibly a wheel bearing.
>
> Glenn Beasley
> Chrysler Tech
Many THX Glenn and philthy and rickety for your replies.
I tried the side to side Glenn suggested, also a road curve to the left
then right.
Turning to the left I had the noise, even worse on the road curve at
about 40mph.
Turning to the right much less or even no noise on the road curve.
So shall I conclude the right wheel bearing is the problem?

This car is 5 months before the 5 yr power train guarantee runs out.
The Docs say contact your dealer to get the coverage details.
Surely the drive wheel bearings are part of the drive train?
Does anyone know?

TIA; Gerry
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> In article <EvKdnZ7eb6TyTGPeRVn-qQ RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
> "maxpower" <damnnickname RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Spam Hater" <iHate RemoveThis @spam.net> wrote in message
> > news:iHate-8ADABA.22381623022006@news.telus.net...
> > > My wife's 2001 V6 Sebring Sedan has developed a loud driving noise.
> > > It doesn't appear to be the tires and is sometimes almost like a
growl,
> > > which becomes loud after 50kph (30mph).
> > > It started about a month back.
> > >
> > > Any ideas what it is?
> > > I suspect a bearing in a wheel or the drive train.
> > >
> > > TIA.
> >
> > If you sway the vehicle from side to side as the noise is happening will
it
> > change or go away as you do it?
> > Possibly a wheel bearing.
> >
> > Glenn Beasley
> > Chrysler Tech
> Many THX Glenn and philthy and rickety for your replies.
> I tried the side to side Glenn suggested, also a road curve to the left
> then right.
> Turning to the left I had the noise, even worse on the road curve at
> about 40mph.
> Turning to the right much less or even no noise on the road curve.
> So shall I conclude the right wheel bearing is the problem?
>
> This car is 5 months before the 5 yr power train guarantee runs out.
> The Docs say contact your dealer to get the coverage details.
> Surely the drive wheel bearings are part of the drive train?
> Does anyone know?
>
> TIA; Gerry

Depends on the service contract and who it was purchased with. read the
coverage guide that came with it when you bought it. But yes, most do
consider a wheel bearing power train.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
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In article <waydnQPYOeDbW5_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
"maxpower" <damnnickname.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Depends on the service contract and who it was purchased with. read the
> coverage guide that came with it when you bought it.
It's Chrysler's warranty; in Canada.

> But yes, most do
> consider a wheel bearing power train.
I'm was hoping that, but I just booked service and was advised the
bearings are not covered by the CDN Chrysler PT warranty.
They said that warranty covers engine to driving axle; the bearings
being just outside of the coverage. Darn!
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no the wheel bearing s are not

Spam Hater wrote:

> In article <EvKdnZ7eb6TyTGPeRVn-qQ.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
> "maxpower" <damnnickname.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "Spam Hater" <iHate.DeleteThis@spam.net> wrote in message
> > news:iHate-8ADABA.22381623022006@news.telus.net...
> > > My wife's 2001 V6 Sebring Sedan has developed a loud driving noise.
> > > It doesn't appear to be the tires and is sometimes almost like a growl,
> > > which becomes loud after 50kph (30mph).
> > > It started about a month back.
> > >
> > > Any ideas what it is?
> > > I suspect a bearing in a wheel or the drive train.
> > >
> > > TIA.
> >
> > If you sway the vehicle from side to side as the noise is happening will it
> > change or go away as you do it?
> > Possibly a wheel bearing.
> >
> > Glenn Beasley
> > Chrysler Tech
> Many THX Glenn and philthy and rickety for your replies.
> I tried the side to side Glenn suggested, also a road curve to the left
> then right.
> Turning to the left I had the noise, even worse on the road curve at
> about 40mph.
> Turning to the right much less or even no noise on the road curve.
> So shall I conclude the right wheel bearing is the problem?
>
> This car is 5 months before the 5 yr power train guarantee runs out.
> The Docs say contact your dealer to get the coverage details.
> Surely the drive wheel bearings are part of the drive train?
> Does anyone know?
>
> TIA; Gerry
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In article <4406EBAC.8C48A2DB.TakeThisOut@cac.net>, philthy <dbrider.TakeThisOut@cac.net>
wrote:

> no the wheel bearing s are not

It was the right front wheel bearing as suspected and the left one was
headed in the same direction.
So at a big bill my dealer replaced both front wheel bearings and wife's
Sebring is as quiet as new.

This situation has me concerned as this '01 Sebring has only about 20k
miles on it.
I'm wondering if:
-The original bearings just happened to be a bad batch.
-The original bearings were improperly installed.
- There is a design problem with these front bearings. The service rep
said 40k miles is the normal bearing life on this car. I find this very
poor as we have driven several other Chrysler FWD cars over 80k miles
since '86 and have never replaced the front wheel bearings.
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> In article <4406EBAC.8C48A2DB DeleteThis @cac.net>, philthy <dbrider DeleteThis @cac.net>
> wrote:
>
> > no the wheel bearing s are not
>
> It was the right front wheel bearing as suspected and the left one was
> headed in the same direction.
> So at a big bill my dealer replaced both front wheel bearings and wife's
> Sebring is as quiet as new.
>
> This situation has me concerned as this '01 Sebring has only about 20k
> miles on it.
> I'm wondering if:
> -The original bearings just happened to be a bad batch.
> -The original bearings were improperly installed.
> - There is a design problem with these front bearings. The service rep
> said 40k miles is the normal bearing life on this car. I find this very
> poor as we have driven several other Chrysler FWD cars over 80k miles
> since '86 and have never replaced the front wheel bearings.

If the vehicle ever hit something or was involved in an accident, If you
live in an area like I do with huge potholes throughout the city, that could
cause it. But the bearings do last longer then 40k.
Sometimes the person that is working on the vehicle will think the bearing
on one side is bad and replace it because of the noise. Then finds out it
wasn't the faulty one and now they have to sell you the other side to
actually fix the problem. Is this why they told you both bearings were bad??
Highly unlikely with that mileage that both bearings were bad, but I guess
it could happen.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
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In article <FJCdnbqe6YxvF5TZRVn-iQ.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
"maxpower" <damnnickname.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > This situation has me concerned as this '01 Sebring has only about 20k
> > miles on it.
> > I'm wondering if:
> > -The original bearings just happened to be a bad batch.
> > -The original bearings were improperly installed.
> > - There is a design problem with these front bearings. The service rep
> > said 40k miles is the normal bearing life on this car. I find this very
> > poor as we have driven several other Chrysler FWD cars over 80k miles
> > since '86 and have never replaced the front wheel bearings.
>
> If the vehicle ever hit something or was involved in an accident,
No.
>If you
> live in an area like I do with huge potholes throughout the city, that could
> cause it.
No. Just the normal rough Canadian winter spring roads, which several
previous FWD Chrysler cars have handled. Over 80K miles on previous
with no bearing troubles.

> But the bearings do last longer then 40k.
Yes, that's always been my previous experience.

> Sometimes the person that is working on the vehicle will think the bearing
> on one side is bad and replace it because of the noise. Then finds out it
> wasn't the faulty one and now they have to sell you the other side to
> actually fix the problem. Is this why they told you both bearings were bad??
> Highly unlikely with that mileage that both bearings were bad, but I guess
> it could happen.
He agreed with my analysis that the right bearing was the major noise
maker, but he also found the left one had some noise so it was felt to
be wise to replace it at the same time.

With the service rep saying they usually last 40K miles, only twice what
we got, but still so soon, I got wondering why the Sebring bearings fail
so soon.
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> In article <FJCdnbqe6YxvF5TZRVn-iQ.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
> "maxpower" <damnnickname.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > This situation has me concerned as this '01 Sebring has only about 20k
> > > miles on it.
> > > I'm wondering if:
> > > -The original bearings just happened to be a bad batch.
> > > -The original bearings were improperly installed.
> > > - There is a design problem with these front bearings. The service
rep
> > > said 40k miles is the normal bearing life on this car. I find this
very
> > > poor as we have driven several other Chrysler FWD cars over 80k miles
> > > since '86 and have never replaced the front wheel bearings.
> >
> > If the vehicle ever hit something or was involved in an accident,
> No.
> >If you
> > live in an area like I do with huge potholes throughout the city, that
could
> > cause it.
> No. Just the normal rough Canadian winter spring roads, which several
> previous FWD Chrysler cars have handled. Over 80K miles on previous
> with no bearing troubles.
>
> > But the bearings do last longer then 40k.
> Yes, that's always been my previous experience.
>
> > Sometimes the person that is working on the vehicle will think the
bearing
> > on one side is bad and replace it because of the noise. Then finds out
it
> > wasn't the faulty one and now they have to sell you the other side to
> > actually fix the problem. Is this why they told you both bearings were
bad??
> > Highly unlikely with that mileage that both bearings were bad, but I
guess
> > it could happen.
> He agreed with my analysis that the right bearing was the major noise
> maker, but he also found the left one had some noise so it was felt to
> be wise to replace it at the same time.
>
> With the service rep saying they usually last 40K miles, only twice what
> we got, but still so soon, I got wondering why the Sebring bearings fail
> so soon.

That bearing is the same on the Caravan, LH and of course Sebring. Same
design,same construction.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
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aftermarket bearinmgs 60 to 100 bucs how much at dealer 200.00+??
labor time???

Spam Hater wrote:

> In article <4406EBAC.8C48A2DB.DeleteThis@cac.net>, philthy <dbrider.DeleteThis@cac.net>
> wrote:
>
> > no the wheel bearing s are not
>
> It was the right front wheel bearing as suspected and the left one was
> headed in the same direction.
> So at a big bill my dealer replaced both front wheel bearings and wife's
> Sebring is as quiet as new.
>
> This situation has me concerned as this '01 Sebring has only about 20k
> miles on it.
> I'm wondering if:
> -The original bearings just happened to be a bad batch.
> -The original bearings were improperly installed.
> - There is a design problem with these front bearings. The service rep
> said 40k miles is the normal bearing life on this car. I find this very
> poor as we have driven several other Chrysler FWD cars over 80k miles
> since '86 and have never replaced the front wheel bearings.
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In article <7ZidnXJzEp5ElZfZRVn-uA.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
"maxpower" <damnnickname.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> That bearing is the same on the Caravan, LH and of course Sebring. Same
> design,same construction.
Interesting as my '95 LH is over 80K miles and the bearings are OK.
So Chrysler got a very bad batch, probably from a lower cost supplier.

It still concerns me that the service rep said 40K miles is the normal
life of current bearings in the Sebring.
Has Chrysler's bearing quality become much lower?

In article <440A15D3.9841B108.DeleteThis@cac.net>, philthy <dbrider.DeleteThis@cac.net>
wrote:

> aftermarket bearinmgs 60 to 100 bucs how much at dealer 200.00+??
> labor time???
You're very close.
Bearings= 2@ $105.=$210.
Labour= @2.1 units (hrs?)=$225.
NB: In Canadian $s, currently about 86¢ US.

I'm going to take up this issue of these very poor quality bearings with
Chrysler.
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Not sure about your particular vehicle, but on the 99 convertibles the
wheel bearing is part of the "hub assembly". It is not serviceable, not
lubricatable, and must be replaced as a unit. Parts are $65-$90 per
side on the Net.

These hubs are known to have a very low lifespan, it's a common
problem. I have no idea what the labor cost to replace is, but it's a
fairly complicated job.

Any real competent mechanic can do it, no need to go to a dealer.


In article <1140791609.977212.54740.RemoveThis@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
rickety <ricklugg.RemoveThis@iname.com> wrote:

> at the risk of saying "Me too", I had a similar event recently and it
> turned out to be a front wheel bearing.
>
> This was at a relatively low 30,000 km. I think there may be a quality
> issue with these bearings as that is way too soon imho.
>
> I was not able to get any "co-pay" in the work "due to the age of the
> vehicle"
>
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