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NewRVguy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:55 am
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I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on the
highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am getting
11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the same
as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me what
kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas mileage
will increase after break in period of the truck right?
I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across country
with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
load I am concerned !

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:55 am
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How hard are you driving it?

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"NewRVguy" <Rvrookie DeleteThis @rvrookie.com> wrote in message
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 > I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
the
 > highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am
getting
 > 11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
 > rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the
same
 > as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
 > Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me what
 > kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas mileage
 > will increase after break in period of the truck right?
 > I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across country
 > with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
 > load I am concerned !
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:55 am
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"NewRVguy" <Rvrookie.DeleteThis@rvrookie.com> wrote in message
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 >I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
 >the
 > highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am
 > getting
 > 11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
 > rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the
 > same
 > as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
 > Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me what
 > kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas mileage
 > will increase after break in period of the truck right?
 > I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across country
 > with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
 > load I am concerned !
 >
That sounds correct. Hemi is a gas guzzling performance engine,

I knew a guy that bouhght one then a few days later took it back in exhange
for a diesel


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SnoMan




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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:00 am
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NewRVguy wrote:
I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on the
highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am getting
11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the same
as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me what
kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas mileage
will increase after break in period of the truck right?
I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across country
with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
load I am concerned !


I have never talked to anyone with a Hemi in a big truck that did not get poor MPG and there is a couple of reasons for that. One is the engines power band, its rating looks impressive on paper and in ads but a engine that peaks it torque at over 4000 RPM and HP above 5000 RPM is not going to play well in a heavy RV because relative to its implied HP rating, the avalible torque at lower RPMs and engine efficency is not great. (A GM 6.0 for example while having a lower HP rating has a lower RPM HP and torque peak with better low RPM efficency and does a lot better in a heavy RV) The second problem is that Dodge in their infinate wisdom left out the ability and possibility of have a front axle disconnect or lockout hubs to cut front axle power loss when it 2WD. The front axle and diff is always turning and that will cost you at least 1 MPG or so on the average and a bit more when it is colder or speeds are very high. I am sorry to say there is not magic fix here. I will never understand why Chrysler did not spend another 100 bucks on 35K truck to enable and include the installation of lockout hubs to disengage axle in 2wd. It can only be for saving money and simpling 4wd operation but it is not MPG freindly on highway. Back 30 years ago when I first started driving 4x4's you could tell when the hubs were not disengaged in general performace at speed and MPG too. If you plan to travel a lot, the Dodge 4x4 is not a good choice MPG wise with hemi and you would do better with a Ford or Chevy. Even the old V10 would do about the same MPG wise as the new Hemi but it would tow like crazy too and badly embrass the higher rated Hemi in towing performance. It is sad that you have two choices in your truck, a 5.7 or a Cummins and nothing in the middle.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:55 am
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11.8 MPG>

That sounds correct. Hemi is a gas guzzling performance engine
 > I knew a guy that bouhght one then a few days later took it back in
exhange
 > for a diesel


I thought of doing that but I always thought that once you bought a new
truck it was YOURS. With it being "driven off the lot" and registered with
my plate on it wouldn't it have to be sold back to them for like a $5000
loss ?


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:55 am
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NewRVguy wrote:
 > 11.8 MPG>
 >
 > That sounds correct. Hemi is a gas guzzling performance engine
 >
  >>I knew a guy that bouhght one then a few days later took it back in
 >
 > exhange
 >
  >>for a diesel
 >
 >
 >
 > I thought of doing that but I always thought that once you bought a new
 > truck it was YOURS. With it being "driven off the lot" and registered with
 > my plate on it wouldn't it have to be sold back to them for like a $5000
 > loss ?

Yep! Some people don't care. You'll lose a bit less if you sell it on
your own. I have a Hemi Durango 4x4 with 3.55 gears. When it was new I
only got about 12mpg highway at 75mph. I get about 17mpg now with 16K
on it. Around town I get 14.5mpg. Towing I get about 10mpg at 65mph
pulling a 5000lb trailer.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:12 am
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NewRVguy wrote:
11.8 MPG>

That sounds correct. Hemi is a gas guzzling performance engine
> I knew a guy that bouhght one then a few days later took it back in
exhange
> for a diesel


I thought of doing that but I always thought that once you bought a new
truck it was YOURS. With it being "driven off the lot" and registered with
my plate on it wouldn't it have to be sold back to them for like a $5000
loss ?


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If it did not have enough miles on it and you fussed about it they might. Tell them they misrepresented the MPG to you. A friend recently bought a Dmax crew cab truck and was looking at Dodge Cummins trucks but the price (chevy was 2 grand cheaper from rebates) and the lack of disengaging front axle moved him to a chevy. Also the reason I brought it up, He was having some issues with getting few dealer installed option installed on it and he finailly got it worked out okay for all parties involved but just before they did the dealer offered to give him his money back on truck even though it had 2000 miles on it because they wanted him happy and it was a reputable dealer. You could try talking to them and see what they say but you will never be happy with that hemi towing a big trailer power of MPG and I would be ready for 8 to 9 MPG towing a big trailer at best. ALso for what it is worth my friend tried out a 6.0 gas powered crew cab for several days and he got around 15 mpg with it on the road and he is not a slow driver and the power was good too. With the Dmax he has now he is getting 18.5 mpg with same driving and in both cases the trip MPG monitor was clos to actuall MPG when it was filled up. If max MPG is your goal in a Dodge towing go for a Cummins with a 6 speed and skip the automatic.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:24 am
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:47:51 GMT, "NewRVguy" <Rvrookie.TakeThisOut@rvrookie.com>
wrote:

 >I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on the
 >highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am getting
 >11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
 >rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the same
 >as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
 >Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me what
 >kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas mileage
 >will increase after break in period of the truck right?
 >I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across country
 >with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
 >load I am concerned !
 >


Here is a repeat of my post on this subject a while ago.

I have a 2004 2500 4x4 reg cab hemi with 5sp standard. In 15K miles
the best ever tank was 14.5 mpg highway with no trailer or load.

Overall average is about 13.5. Towing a 6000 lb trailer I get about 10
mpg and our friends with a Cummins diesel and a heavier trailer leave
us in the dust going up hill while using less fuel.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:50 pm
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"NewRVguy" <Rvrookie.DeleteThis@rvrookie.com> wrote in message
news:X36ue.1774506$6l.811677@pd7tw2no...
 >I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
 >the
 > highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am
 > getting
 > 11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
 > rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the
 > same
 > as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
 > Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me what
 > kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas mileage
 > will increase after break in period of the truck right?
 > I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across country
 > with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
 > load I am concerned !
 >
You bought a BIG TRUCK with a advertised hi-performance engine. What the
heck did you expect??? You might pick up a couple mpg when it loosens up a
bit and when you start to drive like you have a egg under the gas pedal.
What you have is pretty much what you are going to get.

I still don't understand why people buy something as large as a full size
truck and with such horrible aerodynamics, a big engine, 3:55 or 4:10's and
then bitch about horrible mileage.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:08 pm
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11.8 mpg on a 3/4 ton....sounds about right to me but then again i may just
be used to feeding that v10 and my heavy foot!


"NewRVguy" <Rvrookie.TakeThisOut@rvrookie.com> wrote in message
news:X36ue.1774506$6l.811677@pd7tw2no...
 > I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
the
 > highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am
getting
 > 11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
 > rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the
same
 > as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
 > Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me what
 > kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas mileage
 > will increase after break in period of the truck right?
 > I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across country
 > with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with no
 > load I am concerned !
 >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:55 pm
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you're getting 'average' expect much less pulling.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:01 pm
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Christopher Thompson wrote:
11.8 mpg on a 3/4 ton....sounds about right to me but then again i may just
be used to feeding that v10 and my heavy foot!




Yes the V10 used some fuel when you put your foot into it but they would pull a trailer good too and a lot better than a 5.7m "Hemi" with a higher paper HP rating.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:55 pm
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15 MPG on the highway and 10 MPG in the city is not much to ask. My father
has a massive class A motorhome that gets 11 MPG on the hwy.


"Roy" <Roy.DeleteThis@home.net> wrote in message news:d9c4to02e4e@news3.newsguy.com...
 >
 > "NewRVguy" <Rvrookie.DeleteThis@rvrookie.com> wrote in message
 > news:X36ue.1774506$6l.811677@pd7tw2no...
  > >I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
  > >the
  > > highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am
  > > getting
  > > 11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
  > > rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the
  > > same
  > > as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
  > > Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me
what
  > > kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas
mileage
  > > will increase after break in period of the truck right?
  > > I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across
country
  > > with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with
no
  > > load I am concerned !
  > >
 > You bought a BIG TRUCK with a advertised hi-performance engine. What the
 > heck did you expect??? You might pick up a couple mpg when it loosens up a
 > bit and when you start to drive like you have a egg under the gas pedal.
 > What you have is pretty much what you are going to get.
 >
 > I still don't understand why people buy something as large as a full size
 > truck and with such horrible aerodynamics, a big engine, 3:55 or 4:10's
and
 > then bitch about horrible mileage.
 >
 > Roy
 >
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:55 pm
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nice and easy, not out to race with it


"TBone" <t-bonenospam.RemoveThis@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > How hard are you driving it?
 >
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 >
 >
 > "NewRVguy" <Rvrookie.RemoveThis@rvrookie.com> wrote in message
 > news:X36ue.1774506$6l.811677@pd7tw2no...
  > > I just bought a 2005 POWER WAGON (2500). I have only driven it 200 KM on
 > the
  > > highway now since I got it a few days ago and the computer says I am
 > getting
  > > 11.8 MPG. This sounds REALLY BAD. My window sticker did not show an EPA
  > > rating and when I called the dealer they just said that it will get the
 > same
  > > as the 1500 with Hemi with to me sounds like a quit bullshit answer.
  > > Anybody else out there driving a 2500 Ram with Hemi that can tell me
what
  > > kind of City/Hwy gas mileage I can expect? I imagine that the gas
mileage
  > > will increase after break in period of the truck right?
  > > I am also planning on towing a 5500 lb (dry) Travel Trailer across
country
  > > with it and was hoping for 10 MPG with that but if it is 11.8 MPG with
no
  > > load I am concerned !
  > >
  > >
 >
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:55 pm
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I talked with a guy today with a 2500/Hemi and he recommended I wait it out
because he got 12 HWY when new but now with 25K on it he is getting 17 HWY


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 > NewRVguy wrote:
  > > 11.8 MPG>
  > >
  > > That sounds correct. Hemi is a gas guzzling performance engine
  > >
   > >>I knew a guy that bouhght one then a few days later took it back in
  > >
  > > exhange
  > >
   > >>for a diesel
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > I thought of doing that but I always thought that once you bought a new
  > > truck it was YOURS. With it being "driven off the lot" and registered
with
  > > my plate on it wouldn't it have to be sold back to them for like a $5000
  > > loss ?
 >
 > Yep! Some people don't care. You'll lose a bit less if you sell it on
 > your own. I have a Hemi Durango 4x4 with 3.55 gears. When it was new I
 > only got about 12mpg highway at 75mph. I get about 17mpg now with 16K
 > on it. Around town I get 14.5mpg. Towing I get about 10mpg at 65mph
 > pulling a 5000lb trailer.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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