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LT

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:42 pm
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I'm looking to buy a used (but not older) Pilot. Mileage isn't a concern as
I only drive ~10 miles per year. Per Consumer Reports, it appears 2006 is
much better that 2005. Anyone agree?
Thanks

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:55 pm
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LT wrote:
> I'm looking to buy a used (but not older) Pilot. Mileage isn't a concern as
> I only drive ~10 miles per year. Per Consumer Reports, it appears 2006 is
> much better that 2005. Anyone agree?
> Thanks

If you only drive 10 miles per year, rent a pilot from Enterprise or
Hertz for that.

jeff

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:55 pm
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> If you only drive 10 miles per year, rent a pilot from Enterprise or Hertz
> for that.

He'd be better off taking a taxi or a limo.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:55 pm
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Brian Smith wrote:
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Dpvlj.20749$9t4.14930@trnddc08...
>> If you only drive 10 miles per year, rent a pilot from Enterprise or Hertz
>> for that.
>
> He'd be better off taking a taxi or a limo.

Or a bicycle, bus or train.

Jeff
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LT

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:55 pm
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Sorry, dropped the "k". I drive approx 10K miles per year. Regardless, 06
or 05?
Thanks
LT


"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Brian Smith wrote:
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Dpvlj.20749$9t4.14930@trnddc08...
>>> If you only drive 10 miles per year, rent a pilot from Enterprise or
>>> Hertz for that.
>>
>> He'd be better off taking a taxi or a limo.
>
> Or a bicycle, bus or train.
>
> Jeff
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:34 pm
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On Jan 22, 9:21 pm, "LT" <lorentheod....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, dropped the "k".  I drive approx 10K miles per year.  Regardless, 06
> or 05?
> Thanks
> LT
>
>
stop kidding yourself and buy an Odyssey minivan
the Pilot is just an Odyssey with a SUV-like body
need AWD? buy a Sienna AWD
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:34 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:57 pm
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I have an '05 that has been flawless.

G-Man


"LT" <lorentheodore.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking to buy a used (but not older) Pilot. Mileage isn't a concern
> as I only drive ~10 miles per year. Per Consumer Reports, it appears 2006
> is much better that 2005. Anyone agree?
> Thanks
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:40 pm
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop RemoveThis @nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Xns9A2EA9EFB23FDthefrogprince RemoveThis @69.28.173.184>,
> Larry in AZ <usenet2 RemoveThis @DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>
>> > stop kidding yourself and buy an Odyssey minivan
>> > the Pilot is just an Odyssey with a SUV-like body
>> > need AWD? buy a Sienna AWD
>>
>> The Pilot may be built on the Odyssey frame, but the drive train is out
>> of
>> the Acura MDX. Much heavier duty, and the vehicle rides considerably
>> higher
>> and differently.
>>
>> It *IS NOT* an Odyssey.
>
> It's much more an Odyssey than it isn't. The drivetrain is virtually
> identical save for the awd portion.

Thanks for nothing guys......
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:45 am
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>From: lorentheodore.RemoveThis@hotmail.com (LT)
>Per Consumer Reports, it appears 2006 is much better that
>2005.

How so? What do they say?

I have 05 Pilot 5,700 miles on it. The one thing I dont care for is the
road noise seems a bit high.

Ray
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:45 am
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QUAKEnSHAKE wrote:

> I have 05 Pilot 5,700 miles on it. The one thing I dont care for is the
> road noise seems a bit high.
>
> Ray

---------------------------

Ray, it's probably tire noise.

http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=27265&highlight=noise...res+ori

Follow the links in the thread.

'Curly'
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:58 pm
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"QUAKEnSHAKE" <QUAKEnSHAKE.TakeThisOut@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> >From: lorentheodore.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (LT)
>>Per Consumer Reports, it appears 2006 is much better that
>>2005.
>
> How so? What do they say?
>
> I have 05 Pilot 5,700 miles on it. The one thing I dont care for is the
> road noise seems a bit high.
>
> Ray
----------------
Consumers rates them close. but rates the 05 lower than the 06 in electrical
system and climate control. They do rate the 06 lower for squeaks and
rattles....
thx
LT
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Rick Frazier

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:41 pm
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LT wrote:

> I'm looking to buy a used (but not older) Pilot. Mileage isn't a concern as
> I only drive ~10 miles per year. Per Consumer Reports, it appears 2006 is
> much better that 2005. Anyone agree?
> Thanks
>
>
Don't know anyone here that's had problems with the 2006, and my wife
put over 60,000 miles on the 2005 we bought at year end about two years
ago with only a single problem...

She described a problem with the air conditioning, where the air wasn't
as cold as it used to be, with a corresponding "noise" over near the
glovebox. The local dealer (clearly a bunch of Putzes) took the vehicle
in and changed out the "cabin filter" which sits behind the glovebox.
Of course, no help for the described problem. Once I finally had time
to look at it, I found the little motor that moves the arm that
controls the air distribution (Not sure what it's called, perhaps the
"damper motor") was malfunctioning. When she changed from defroster to
air conditioning (central vents) the motor might move the arm a bit, but
then it would just jitter between two small steps. I took the motor out
and determined there was a "comb" that didn't make contact with a
pattern on a gear, and as a result, the motor couldn't verify it's
movement.... A minor bend to the comb make it work just fine for about
5000, and has since required another adjustment to keep it working. The
local dealer representative (already described as Putz) didn't respond
to the original complaint by debugging the actual problem, only swapping
in a $100 filter and hoping the problem would go away... As I find this
typical with most dealerships (I once worked as a Chrysler line mechanic
in the mid 70's and was the troubleshooter for return problems, so this
isn't a surprise to me), I'm not particularly surprised, but given
everytyhing else on this vehicle has been perfect, it's too bad that
dealerships haven't changed in the last 30+ years....

I wouldn't have a qualm with either the 2005 0r 2006, but given you
state you drive only 10 miles a year, I'd just call a limo, save the
bucks and have a great time instead. Hell, if I drove under a thousand
miles a year, I could have a limo at my beck and call for a whole lot
less than my insurance costs alone, let alone the cost of purchasing and
maintaining a vehicle... (and I live in the sticks, over 25 miles from
the nearest "town"...)

--Rick
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:49 pm
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Larry in AZ wrote:

> Waiving the right to remain silent, ACAR <getoutanpush.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> said:
>
>
>>On Jan 22, 9:21˙pm, "LT" <lorentheod....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Sorry, dropped the "k". ˙I drive approx 10K miles per year. ˙Regardles
>>>s, 06 or 05?
>>>Thanks
>>>LT
>>>
>>>
>>
>>stop kidding yourself and buy an Odyssey minivan
>>the Pilot is just an Odyssey with a SUV-like body
>>need AWD? buy a Sienna AWD
>
>
> The Pilot may be built on the Odyssey frame, but the drive train is out of
> the Acura MDX. Much heavier duty, and the vehicle rides considerably higher
> and differently.
>
> It *IS NOT* an Odyssey.
>
Having seen both Pilot (wife bought a 2005 pilot) and Odyssey, and after
co-worker's Odessey took a rear-end collision that totalled it, I looked
into structure of both. (I Previously was a Journeyman body and
Fenderman, so even minor changes are apparent) I wouldn't begin to
think they are the same vehicle... Perhaps a portion of the drivetrain
is similar, but the body structure is definitely different. As
indicated above, a Pilot *IS NOT* an Odyssey. I wouln't put them in
even similar classes. If you're looking for similarities, the Pilot and
the Ridgeline are obvious brothers...
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:02 pm
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Larry in AZ wrote:

> Waiving the right to remain silent, motsco_ <motsco_ RemoveThis @interbaun.com> said:
>
>
>>QUAKEnSHAKE wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have 05 Pilot 5,700 miles on it. The one thing I dont care for is the
>>>road noise seems a bit high.
>>>
>>>Ray
>>
>>---------------------------
>>
>>Ray, it's probably tire noise.
>
>
> The stock tires and wheels on the 05 are junk. Mine lose air regularly.
>
Though I haven't seen any problem with losing air, I would agree the
stock tires are junk, just as are the tires of just about any typical
vehicle coming out of the major manufacturers. Unless you are buying a
serious "sports/performance" vehicle like Corvette, Camaro, Mustang GT,
etc., you will always get junk tires from the factory.

Our 2005 pilot has a bit over 60,000 miles on it and the tires are
already suffering from hydroplaning problems... OK, so one shouldn't
expect stock tires to make 90K miles without issues, but they clearly
could for only a relatively few dollars more.... Even the (non stock)
tires on my Toyota Tacoma 4wd put out over 90K miles before I couldn't
stand the noise (but they still had decent tread and weren't
hydroplaning). With the stock Pilot tires, I couldn't belive the way
they didn't handle when I recently drove the vehicle in a recent
rainstorm. My wife put over 60K miles on the vehicle in less than two
years and never complained, but I was all over the lane during a
rainstorm the first time I drove it recently. Looking at the tread,
there's still reasonable depth there, but the pattern is just not
conducive to shedding the rain, so (f course) it's like driving on wet
ice when it rains here. (It's not unusual to see a couple of inches in
an hour when it rains here, and , as we have no freeways, the roadways
aren't exactly designed for high speed use or water runoff).
I'm just about ready to put a good set of Michelins on it (which cured
every problem I had with the Toyota).

--rick
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