Mileage Question

2000, QC, 4x4 AT, LWB, I post 13-14mpg avg around town, my over the road avg
is 19.5, indicating about 22mpg while at cruise speeds of 65-70mph

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"azwiley1" <azwiley1 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
> you average, inner city and highway?
>
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> Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
> you average, inner city and highway?

I get about 125% of a Chebbie 1/2-ton, while making about 2.5x the power,
and weighing about 50% more

About 19MPG in mixed (50/50) driving... 21 on straight highway runs. 23 if
I keep it in the right lane at 55. 15-16 if I'm playing "make the rice
rockets look even sillier".
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"azwiley1" <azwiley1 DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
> you average, inner city and highway?
>

19.4 MPG or so as I travel about 80% Freeway (68-70mph) and 20% city
(25-55mph, not to mention the times I go 0mph). The heated seats allow for
an extra .2mpg as I'm not shivering down the road. I also get 11-12 MPG
when towing my Arctic Fox 24-5N 55-65 mph.

'03 2500
HO
4wd
LB
6sp
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<azwiley1.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> > Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
> > you average, inner city and highway?
> >
>

My 2500, 04, six speed, 4X4 gets 19 to 20 mixed city and slow highway. At 80
it's gets about 14.

Al
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"azwiley1" <azwiley1.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
> you average, inner city and highway?
05 QC 4X4 auto w/4:11 rear, 14.5 city, 19.5 highway at 60mph mt

Roy
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Tom Lawrence wrote:
>>Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
>>you average, inner city and highway?
>
>
> I get about 125% of a Chebbie 1/2-ton, while making about 2.5x the power,
> and weighing about 50% more
>
> About 19MPG in mixed (50/50) driving... 21 on straight highway runs. 23 if
> I keep it in the right lane at 55. 15-16 if I'm playing "make the rice
> rockets look even sillier".
>
>

Yeah right on the 2.5 x power. If the gas truck is geared properly, it
will pull just about as much as a oil burner will. It is all in the
gearing. Deisel are usually geared correct to match their narrow
power/RPM range to the load while gas truck are rarely geared properly.
I have hualed a 13k loaded equipment trailer a few time with my K3500
with not problems or big fuss. Heck 30 years ago I was hualing 23k grain
trailers 20 miles to a mill at harvest time before there was even the
dream of a CTD dodge with a 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4wd with a 350, a 4 speed and
4.10 axle ratios and NEVER had a problem getting the load moving or
keeping it moving. It was traction limited in 2wd first/granny gear even
when loaded and would frequently leave marks into the surface of the
county roads when starting out because on the high torque loads placed
are contact point of tire to road. I could even pull the loads out of
the field in 4 lo most of the time if the ground was not too soft and
again it was traction limited not power limited. A freind pulled too
with a F250 and a 351 with 3.54 axles and a automatic but he would stall
out with a load in soft ground and not even be able to spin the tires
even in low range. It was no match for my old GMC in pulling power. That
truck was one of the last of the beasts before emmissions set in big
time. I used to pull a load 4 horse trailer with it a lot too and never
had any problem hold speed in 4th on any interstate hill and got 10 to
11 MPG doing it too. One time when I was redoing a dam I hauled 2ea 5k
cement drain pipes at once on a equipment float with a total weight of
close to 15k 60 miles on the interstate atspeed limit without any real
problems. You just need the gears and the proper drive line, not a oil
burner to move a lot of weight.

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"TheSnoMan" <admin.TakeThisOut@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> Tom Lawrence wrote:
>>>Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
>>>you average, inner city and highway?
>>
>>
>> I get about 125% of a Chebbie 1/2-ton, while making about 2.5x the power,
>> and weighing about 50% more
>>
>> About 19MPG in mixed (50/50) driving... 21 on straight highway runs. 23
>> if I keep it in the right lane at 55. 15-16 if I'm playing "make the
>> rice rockets look even sillier".
>>
>>
>
> Yeah right on the 2.5 x power. If the gas truck is geared properly, it
> will pull just about as much as a oil burner will. It is all in the
> gearing. Deisel are usually geared correct to match their narrow power/RPM
> range to the load while gas truck are rarely geared properly. I have
> hualed a 13k loaded equipment trailer a few time with my K3500 with not
> problems or big fuss. Heck 30 years ago

Give us a break with the 30 year old stuff. Get current will ya.
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currently im gettin on average 19.5 on my 05 6 speed. i drive mostly city to
and from work. some highway on off days running errans but not much.

"azwiley1" <azwiley1 RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
you
> average, inner city and highway?
>
>
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> Yeah right on the 2.5 x power. If the gas truck is geared properly, it
> will pull just about as much as a oil burner will.

You just don't get it do you? First, I doubt you know anythign about Tom's
truck. Second, gearing will elt you do about anything, at a sacrifice of
something else. To get a gasser to pull what a diesel will, you can lower
the gearing, at the sacrifice of top end speed and fuel mileage.

> Deisel are usually geared correct to match their narrow power/RPM range to
> the load while gas truck are rarely geared properly.

More bullshit. Factory gearing almost always allows an engine to run at
1500-2500RPM while crusing at highway speeds in top gear. Try doing the
math.

> I have hualed a 13k loaded equipment trailer a few time with my K3500 with
> not problems or big fuss.

Think how much easier it would have been with a diesel. Oh... sorry... thats
right, you don't know that since you've never owned one.

> Heck 30 years ago I was hualing 23k grain trailers 20 miles to a mill at
> harvest time before there was even the dream of a CTD dodge

Actually, I'll bet there was a dream of a CTD Dodge, since the late 70's was
when Dodge put a small diesel in the pickups to begin with.

> with a 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4wd with a 350, a 4 speed and 4.10 axle ratios and
> NEVER had a problem getting the load moving or keeping it moving.

Never said you had a problem, but wouldn't it be nice to double or triple
your fuel mileage while doing all that work?

> It was traction limited in 2wd first/granny gear even when loaded and
> would frequently leave marks into the surface of the county roads when
> starting out because on the high torque loads placed are contact point of
> tire to road.

Which is fancied up lack of knowledge speak for: Couldn't get enough
traction to move the load at high RPM, and don't have enough power at low
RPM to turn the tires.

> truck was one of the last of the beasts before emmissions set in big time.

Yup, it was all because of emissions that power went away.....

> I used to pull a load 4 horse trailer with it a lot too and never had any
> problem hold speed in 4th on any interstate hill and got 10 to 11 MPG
> doing it too.

Wow, all of 10-11 MPG? I get 25MPG at 60MPH pulling a 6000lb trailer. When I
pull in the 4wd, I don't worry about using more fuel, because it doesn't.


> One time when I was redoing a dam I hauled 2ea 5k cement drain pipes at
> once on a equipment float with a total weight of close to 15k 60 miles on
> the interstate atspeed limit without any real problems. You just need the
> gears and the proper drive line, not a oil burner to move a lot of weight.

You aren't getting this. At all. Its FUEL EFFICIENCY that we like. Plus,
some of what you describe shows exactly how limited you are with a gasoline
engine in a hauling truck.

Increasing sales of diesel powered trucks of all brands don't lie.

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"TheSnoMan" <admin.RemoveThis@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> Tom Lawrence wrote:
>>>Hey all you CDT (and other Diesel) owners, what kind of fuel mileage do
>>>you average, inner city and highway?
>>
>>
>> I get about 125% of a Chebbie 1/2-ton, while making about 2.5x the power,
>> and weighing about 50% more
>>
>> About 19MPG in mixed (50/50) driving... 21 on straight highway runs. 23
>> if I keep it in the right lane at 55. 15-16 if I'm playing "make the
>> rice rockets look even sillier".
>>
>>
>
> Yeah right on the 2.5 x power. If the gas truck is geared properly, it
> will pull just about as much as a oil burner will. It is all in the
> gearing. Deisel are usually geared correct to match their narrow power/RPM
> range to the load while gas truck are rarely geared properly. I have
> hualed a 13k loaded equipment trailer a few time with my K3500 with not
> problems or big fuss. Heck 30 years ago I was hualing 23k grain trailers
> 20 miles to a mill at harvest time before there was even the dream of a
> CTD dodge with a 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4wd with a 350, a 4 speed and 4.10 axle
> ratios and NEVER had a problem getting the load moving or keeping it
> moving. It was traction limited in 2wd first/granny gear even when loaded
> and would frequently leave marks into the surface of the county roads when
> starting out because on the high torque loads placed are contact point of
> tire to road. I could even pull the loads out of the field in 4 lo most of
> the time if the ground was not too soft and again it was traction limited
> not power limited. A freind pulled too with a F250 and a 351 with 3.54
> axles and a automatic but he would stall out with a load in soft ground
> and not even be able to spin the tires even in low range. It was no match
> for my old GMC in pulling power. That truck was one of the last of the
> beasts before emmissions set in big time. I used to pull a load 4 horse
> trailer with it a lot too and never had any problem hold speed in 4th on
> any interstate hill and got 10 to 11 MPG doing it too. One time when I was
> redoing a dam I hauled 2ea 5k cement drain pipes at once on a equipment
> float with a total weight of close to 15k 60 miles on the interstate
> atspeed limit without any real problems. You just need the gears and the
> proper drive line, not a oil burner to move a lot of weight.
>
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"Tom Lawrence" <tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> Yeah right on the 2.5 x power.
>
> Yeah.... right. I figure about 250HP at the crank for a typical 1/2-ton
> V8. I'm easily at 625HP at the flywheel, so by my math, that's two and a
> half times more.
>
>> If the gas truck is geared properly, it will pull just about as much as a
>> oil burner will.
>
> So will a golf cart.... but it's gonna be REEEAAAALLLLLYYYYYY
> SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWW
>
>> It is all in the gearing.
>
> Nope... it's all in the horsepower. You want to move a load of <X> lbs.
> at <Y> speed, you need <Z> HP. Period.
>

It's actually all about the torque. Horsepower doesn't really do anything;
just a mathmatical expression of Torque:RPM relationship. Torque is the
force that gets you moving, spins your tires, wins races, tugs the 80k
trailer, etc. That's why a 250hp tractor trailer will do so much more than
a 250hp rice burner.
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God Damn, ask a simple question about mileage and this is what I get! Glad
to see the group is still as dysphunctional as ever! <VBFG>

"Matthew Warren" <msuuarren DeleteThis @bluefrog.com> wrote in message
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> "Tom Lawrence" <tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>> Yeah right on the 2.5 x power.
>>
>> Yeah.... right. I figure about 250HP at the crank for a typical 1/2-ton
>> V8. I'm easily at 625HP at the flywheel, so by my math, that's two and a
>> half times more.
>>
>>> If the gas truck is geared properly, it will pull just about as much as
>>> a oil burner will.
>>
>> So will a golf cart.... but it's gonna be REEEAAAALLLLLYYYYYY
>> SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWW
>>
>>> It is all in the gearing.
>>
>> Nope... it's all in the horsepower. You want to move a load of <X> lbs.
>> at <Y> speed, you need <Z> HP. Period.
>>
>
> It's actually all about the torque. Horsepower doesn't really do
> anything; just a mathmatical expression of Torque:RPM relationship.
> Torque is the force that gets you moving, spins your tires, wins races,
> tugs the 80k trailer, etc. That's why a 250hp tractor trailer will do so
> much more than a 250hp rice burner.
>
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> sheesh and what's the torque?

Flywheel? I dunno... a little over 1100 at the wheels on the dyno, but
that was an inertial dyno. A load dyno would probably show more.

Those poor stock U-joints....
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"Tom Lawrence" <tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > sheesh and what's the torque?
>
> Flywheel? I dunno... a little over 1100 at the wheels on the dyno, but
> that was an inertial dyno. A load dyno would probably show more.
>
> Those poor stock U-joints....

they havent broke yet? *grin*


>
>
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