Using Lucas Oil Stabilizer

On Nov 5, 11:09 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <michealartind....DeleteThis@eastlink.ca>
wrote:
> "Ted" <the_busmas....DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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> news:1194320226.857841.268900@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
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> > Do any of you have any opinions or experience using Lucas Oil
> > Stabilizer/Fuel System Lubricant? At the very least, can it do any
> > damage?
>
> I would not use any additives while underwarrentee. Having said that, with
> my 04 with almost 150000km, I have used lucas Tranny conditioner.
>
> Lucas products are not bad, but, you are ignoring the bigger problem. I am
> pretending that I wont have to rebuild my transmission.
>
> Micheal

The reason I mention this is that when I owned a new Honda, despite
the manual stating that no additives need nor should be used, I was
nonetheless charged for the inclusion of "Oil Stabilizer" when having
the oil changed at the dealer. Further, when I had my Malibu's oil
changed at the dealer, they too used an "oil stabilizer". So it just
seemed natural that I'd also use one when changing the oil myself. It
does seem to quiet the engine and make it a bit peppier than before.
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"Ted" <the_busmaster RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 5, 11:09 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <michealartind... RemoveThis @eastlink.ca>
> wrote:
>> "Ted" <the_busmas... RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194320226.857841.268900@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Do any of you have any opinions or experience using Lucas Oil
>> > Stabilizer/Fuel System Lubricant? At the very least, can it do any
>> > damage?
>>
>> I would not use any additives while underwarrentee. Having said that,
>> with
>> my 04 with almost 150000km, I have used lucas Tranny conditioner.
>>
>> Lucas products are not bad, but, you are ignoring the bigger problem. I
>> am
>> pretending that I wont have to rebuild my transmission.
>>
>> Micheal
>
> The reason I mention this is that when I owned a new Honda, despite
> the manual stating that no additives need nor should be used, I was
> nonetheless charged for the inclusion of "Oil Stabilizer" when having
> the oil changed at the dealer. Further, when I had my Malibu's oil
> changed at the dealer, they too used an "oil stabilizer". So it just
> seemed natural that I'd also use one when changing the oil myself. It
> does seem to quiet the engine and make it a bit peppier than before.
>
Sounds to me like another sneaky way to get a few bucks out of the customer.
The manufacturers are the ones who know what the oil requirements are, not
the dealers. The dealers may think it is worthwhile, but I would not pay for
something not recommended by the manufacturer or requested by me.

Engine noise and performance are highly subjective. Haven't you noticed how
much better your car runs after you have had it washed and waxed? My son
tells me that his airplane engine automatically runs noisier and rougher
when over water or mountains. :>)

Don Young

Don Young
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On Nov 6, 9:29 pm, "Don Young" <no... RemoveThis @nonesuch.com> wrote:
> "Ted" <the_busmas... RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> > On Nov 5, 11:09 pm, "Micheal Artindale" <michealartind... RemoveThis @eastlink.ca>
> > wrote:
> >> "Ted" <the_busmas... RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1194320226.857841.268900@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > Do any of you have any opinions or experience using Lucas Oil
> >> > Stabilizer/Fuel System Lubricant? At the very least, can it do any
> >> > damage?
>
> >> I would not use any additives while underwarrentee. Having said that,
> >> with
> >> my 04 with almost 150000km, I have used lucas Tranny conditioner.
>
> >> Lucas products are not bad, but, you are ignoring the bigger problem. I
> >> am
> >> pretending that I wont have to rebuild my transmission.
>
> >> Micheal
>
> > The reason I mention this is that when I owned a new Honda, despite
> > the manual stating that no additives need nor should be used, I was
> > nonetheless charged for the inclusion of "Oil Stabilizer" when having
> > the oil changed at the dealer. Further, when I had my Malibu's oil
> > changed at the dealer, they too used an "oil stabilizer". So it just
> > seemed natural that I'd also use one when changing the oil myself. It
> > does seem to quiet the engine and make it a bit peppier than before.
>
> Sounds to me like another sneaky way to get a few bucks out of the customer.
> The manufacturers are the ones who know what the oil requirements are, not
> the dealers. The dealers may think it is worthwhile, but I would not pay for
> something not recommended by the manufacturer or requested by me.
>
> Engine noise and performance are highly subjective. Haven't you noticed how
> much better your car runs after you have had it washed and waxed? My son
> tells me that his airplane engine automatically runs noisier and rougher
> when over water or mountains. :>)
>
> Don Young
>
> Don Young

When I was in the Air Force, we were told unequivicably that washing
and waxing a car will improve mileage!! Who are we to doubt the US
Government?
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Ted <the_busmaster.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in news:1194320226.857841.268900@
22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

> Do any of you have any opinions or experience using Lucas Oil
> Stabilizer/Fuel System Lubricant? At the very least, can it do any
> damage?
>

purhase 'stabilized' oil before doing oil changes!.....WTF is stabilized
oil?
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In my experience with the cars I've owned (my cars average 400,000 km)
I start using Lucas in my gas cars when they start getting near the
end of their lives and it's time for a rebuild or disposal. I've got a
turbo diesel with 450,000 on it now and using Lucas to really quiet
down the top end (rebuild awaits). As afraid as I was that it was just
an oil thickener, the oil pressure range did not change, nor take
longer to drop after a cold start. The oil just did something
different when I pull out the dipstick. It "droops" off like warm
syrup. And the top end noise is almost gone. That's all I care about.
If that motor's gonna go, it's gonna go. I'm just prolonging it until
I can get the time together to pull the engine.

I think stabilized is just another's term for chemical composition
differences. Just check out the uproar over whether some synthetics
are truly synthetics or petro-based synthetic yadda yadda yadda.

How about doing/using what makes you feel better?

Cheers,
Andy
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On Nov 17, 10:28 am, "madme...@gmail.com" <madme... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> In my experience with the cars I've owned (my cars average 400,000 km)
> I start using Lucas in my gas cars when they start getting near the
> end of their lives and it's time for a rebuild or disposal. I've got a
> turbo diesel with 450,000 on it now and using Lucas to really quiet
> down the top end (rebuild awaits). As afraid as I was that it was just
> an oil thickener, the oil pressure range did not change, nor take
> longer to drop after a cold start. The oil just did something
> different when I pull out the dipstick. It "droops" off like warm
> syrup. And the top end noise is almost gone. That's all I care about.
> If that motor's gonna go, it's gonna go. I'm just prolonging it until
> I can get the time together to pull the engine.
>
> I think stabilized is just another's term for chemical composition
> differences. Just check out the uproar over whether some synthetics
> are truly synthetics or petro-based synthetic yadda yadda yadda.
>
> How about doing/using what makes you feel better?
>
> Cheers,
> Andy

I agree wholeheartedly!! I was just concerned over whether it might
do some damage...like you said, I was afraid of putting in a simple
oil thickener especially as both my cars are new with less than 10,000
miles on them. But to the point, I noticed that the cars do run
smoother and quieter which like yourself is all I'm concerned with.
But I will say this much: I teach driver's ed, and when I put some of
the Lucas gas additive into that poor abused vehicle (04 Malibu 4
cyl), it runs like a bandit!! So I will in fact keep using it...time
will tell the ultimate results... thanks for your input.. Ted
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On Nov 10, 10:50 pm, Kjun <KjunRa....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ted <the_busmas....DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote in news:1194320226.857841.268900@
> 22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Do any of you have any opinions or experience using Lucas Oil
> > Stabilizer/Fuel System Lubricant? At the very least, can it do any
> > damage?
>
> purhase 'stabilized' oil before doing oil changes!.....WTF is stabilized
> oil?

"Stabilized" oil to me simply means that a viscosity component has
been changed. If you were to look at the demonstration for Lucas Oil
Stabilizer, two identical gears, one with the stuff and one with plain
oil get turned at the same speed. The treated oil clings to the
gears, climbing to the top of the shaft. If this in fact works the
same in the engine (it seems to for me), then it's worth the price.
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