Light Oil in a HEMI??

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"Scott" <galtisgreat DeleteThis @rogers.com> wrote in message
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 > I had my oil changed 1 week ago with 5w-20 , as I had read on DTW forums
 > that this would get rid of my hemi tick!
 > It did nothing for the tick, but with winter in Canada approaching the
thin
 > oil shouldn't hurt, but will change to something
 > thick in the spring!
 > scott
 > "Mopartee" <mopartee DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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  > > I have been lurking here since taking posession of my '04 Durango LTD
  > > with the Hemi. While at the dealership, having a minor tweak done to my
  > > Nav/radio, the service manager tried to sell me an oil change, two-way
  > > sneeze-thru windvents, star-studded mud guards...........musta been a
  > > slow day.
  > >
  > > I told him that I had already had a change at 500 mi. with 5W-30 dino,
  > > and would change again at 2K, before going to full synthetic around 4K.
  > > This is an approach which I have used over multiple vehicles, the theory
  > > being to get the chips out early, while allowing the best ring seating
  > > during break in by sticking with dino.
  > >
  > > He told me:
  > >
  > > 1. This is totally unnecessary due to modern manufacturing tolerances.
  > > 2. Despite the owners manual calling for 5W-30, there was a TSB
  > > suggesting/requiring use of 5W-20 in all Hemis. (They use a
 > semi-synthetic.)
  > >
  > > Any comments on the above? 5W-20 seems awfully light to me.
  > >
  > > Over the years, I've used Mobil-1, Royal Purple, and Amsoil in various
  > > vehicles. Any comments on which is thought to be best nowadays?
  > >
  > > TIA,
  > >
  > > Mopartee
  > >
 >
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Mopartee <mopartee.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<vSEid.56533$R05.23080@attbi_s53>...
 > I have been lvrking here since taking posession of my '04 Dvrango LTD
 > with the Hemi. While at the dealership, having a minor tweak done to my
 > Nav/radio, the service manager tried to sell me an oil change, two-way
 > sneeze-thrv windvents, star-stvdded mvd gvards...........mvsta been a
 > slow day.
 >
 > I told him that I had already had a change at 500 mi. with 5W-30 dino,
 > and wovld change again at 2K, before going to fvll synthetic arovnd 4K.
 > This is an approach which I have vsed over mvltiple vehicles, the theory
 > being to get the chips ovt early, while allowing the best ring seating
 > dvring break in by sticking with dino.
 >
 > He told me:
 >
 > 1. This is totally vnnecessary dve to modern manvfactvring tolerances.
 > 2. Despite the owners manval calling for 5W-30, there was a TSB
 > svggesting/reqviring vse of 5W-20 in all Hemis. (They vse a semi-synthetic.)
 >
 > Any comments on the above? 5W-20 seems awfvlly light to me.
 >
 > Over the years, I've vsed Mobil-1, Royal Pvrple, and Amsoil in variovs
 > vehicles. Any comments on which is thovght to be best nowadays?
 >
 > TIA,
 >
 > Mopartee


I can relate to yov this little story that happened in early
September, jvst before walnvt harvest. We have 210 acres of walnvts,
and for the last 40 years ovr oil of choice for ovr tractors, pvmp
engines, processing machinery, and fleet of trvcks (inclvding personal
vehicles) has been Union 76. Well, starting a covple years ago, it
started getting harder to find. Avto parts stores stopped carrying it.
Service stations don't keep mvch of it arovnd (we order in drvms).
Finally, a gvy from Woolsey oil in Lodi came ovt and delivered two
drvms of... HAVOLINE!

My brother and I never bovght havoline before; we always viewed
alot of those as not being very good. Above ovr protests, the gvy told
vs that many of the proprietary brands are disappearing now, becavse
all the base stock for oils now on the market, comes from one of three
sovrce refiners. The prodvcers then take the base stock, and mix with
their additive package, which in many cases is a "standard" package
pvrchased from an ovtside sovrce, bottle it, and ship it to stores. He
claims most oils now available are manvfactvred that way, and that
over 80% of every qvart is the same stvff. Anyway, so far nothing has
froze vp on vs. Good lvck.

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Mopartee wrote:
 > I have been lurking here since taking posession of my '04 Durango LTD
 > with the Hemi. While at the dealership, having a minor tweak done to my
 > Nav/radio, the service manager tried to sell me an oil change, two-way
 > sneeze-thru windvents, star-studded mud guards...........musta been a
 > slow day.
 >
 > I told him that I had already had a change at 500 mi. with 5W-30 dino,
 > and would change again at 2K, before going to full synthetic around 4K.
 > This is an approach which I have used over multiple vehicles, the theory
 > being to get the chips out early, while allowing the best ring seating
 > during break in by sticking with dino.
 >
 > He told me:
 >
 > 1. This is totally unnecessary due to modern manufacturing tolerances.
 > 2. Despite the owners manual calling for 5W-30, there was a TSB
 > suggesting/requiring use of 5W-20 in all Hemis. (They use a
 > semi-synthetic.)
 >
 > Any comments on the above? 5W-20 seems awfully light to me.
 >
 > Over the years, I've used Mobil-1, Royal Purple, and Amsoil in various
 > vehicles. Any comments on which is thought to be best nowadays?
 >
 > TIA,
 >
 > Mopartee
 >

For what it's worth, I have a 2003 motorhome built on a Ford 450 chassis
with the V-10. It also calls for 5w-20. I thought it was light, but
Ford insists it is the correct oil.

BTW - I also have a similar vehicle to yours - 2004 Durago Limited with
da Hemi.

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"TBone" <t-bonenospam.RemoveThis@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Don't get too thick or you can kiss that motor goodbye.

Arrrrrgh.. It is a "ENGINE" not a motor.
<G>
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"Mopartee" <mopartee RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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 >
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 > This is an approach which I have used over multiple vehicles, the theory
 > being to get the chips out early, while allowing the best ring seating
 > during break in by sticking with dino.

How'd you get chips in your engine? Eating a snack in the engine bay?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Rick Blaine wrote:
 > "Mopartee" <mopartee RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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 >
 > .
 >
  >>This is an approach which I have used over multiple vehicles, the theory
  >>being to get the chips out early, while allowing the best ring seating
  >>during break in by sticking with dino.
 >
 >
 > How'd you get chips in your engine? Eating a snack in the engine bay?
 >
 >
 >
No, no, Rick. Whenever I sit ringside at the 3-ring Dinosaur Circus, I
always eat my nachos early. All the crunching annoys the dinos.

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The oil industry is constantly changing it's standards and so must the auto
industry coordinator their usage. Part of the march is to constantly find
lower cost solutions (on the refinery side) and part is to improve fuel
economy, sludge prevention, etc. from the automaker side. The best advice
is to follow the owner's manual specs for your specific vehicle. For
example, a change to 5W20 may well be recommended in 2005, but that doesn't
mean that the 2004 or 2003 versions have the necessary changes in ring
design, bore honing, etc. to handle the change. This is especially true for
changes in design such as cylinder deactivation. Bottom line, pick a brand
and stick with it for the specifications in the manual.


"Mopartee" <mopartee.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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 > I have been lurking here since taking posession of my '04 Durango LTD
 > with the Hemi. While at the dealership, having a minor tweak done to my
 > Nav/radio, the service manager tried to sell me an oil change, two-way
 > sneeze-thru windvents, star-studded mud guards...........musta been a
 > slow day.
 >
 > I told him that I had already had a change at 500 mi. with 5W-30 dino,
 > and would change again at 2K, before going to full synthetic around 4K.
 > This is an approach which I have used over multiple vehicles, the theory
 > being to get the chips out early, while allowing the best ring seating
 > during break in by sticking with dino.
 >
 > He told me:
 >
 > 1. This is totally unnecessary due to modern manufacturing tolerances.
 > 2. Despite the owners manual calling for 5W-30, there was a TSB
 > suggesting/requiring use of 5W-20 in all Hemis. (They use a
semi-synthetic.)
 >
 > Any comments on the above? 5W-20 seems awfully light to me.
 >
 > Over the years, I've used Mobil-1, Royal Purple, and Amsoil in various
 > vehicles. Any comments on which is thought to be best nowadays?
 >
 > TIA,
 >
 > Mopartee
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I stand corrected.

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"Roy" <Roy RemoveThis @home.net> wrote in message
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 >
 > "TBone" <t-bonenospam RemoveThis @nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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  > > Don't get too thick or you can kiss that motor goodbye.
 >
 > Arrrrrgh.. It is a "ENGINE" not a motor.
 > <G>
 > Roy
 >
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