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C. Vaughan

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Since: Mar 25, 2004
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:40 am
Post subject: Re: Fuel inject 51 flathead [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Do a lot of reading on that page. I think it was there somewhere. Also,
since it only fires 2 banks of injectors, I think Throttle Body would be the
way to go.


C. Vaughan


P.S. Sorry Jeremy about replying to you only. Hit the wrong reply button.



"Jeremy" <jeremychapman.DeleteThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:TpMbc.20158$oR5.10835@pd7tw3no...
 > Anybody know what size injectors one would use for a flathead? Is there
 > some sort of formula?
 >
 > "sammy" <sammy4469.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:406238FB.6050300@hotmail.com...
  > > Try this one. It's a DYI and is quite good.
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Jeremy wrote:
  > >
   > > > Great article! Too bad they don't have flathead specific information.
 > I'm
   > > > curious to know whether I should use the stock intake manifold, or
 > something
   > > > different. as well as what size injectors to use.
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > <Theman.DeleteThis@gpc.com> wrote in message
   > > > news:o5so505a7jhq0vqb7ce9ipdhpep27dhsfd@4ax.com...
   > > >
   > > >>Jeremy, you may find some useful informtion on the following web
<font color=brown>   > > >>sites. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/5228/</font" target="_blank">http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/5228/</font</a>>
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >>On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:28:17 GMT, "Jeremy" <jeremychapman.DeleteThis@shaw.ca>
   > > >>wrote:
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >>>I want to fuel inject a merc 51 flathead. I actually saw a picture
 > from
   > > >>>1952 of a fuel injected setup that ford used, although it wasn't
   > > >>>
   > > > available
   > > >
   > > >>>commercially.
   > > >>>Does anyone have any information on fuel injecting this engine?
   > > >>>
   > > >>>
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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sammy2

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Fuel inject 51 flathead [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I've been looking at MegaSaquirt for other apps and it seems quite good.
There is a formula for injector size but it relates to horsepower,
not the engine size. These units have been put on everything from one
and two cylinder racing bikes to VW flat 4 aircooled to 500+ horsepower
V8's. There's a kind of steep learning curve but ideal if you really
want to tune the system. I'm going to replace my 84 Mustang Turbo
controller with one so I can adjust the power curve. The stock box just
doesn't get it.
As for firing 2 banks it is the system most EFI today are. Sequential
units are complex and expensive for marginal gains. MPI with two banks
gives better fuel distribution than a throttle body. That why you see
all performance units as MPI.

C. Vaughan wrote:

 > Do a lot of reading on that page. I think it was there somewhere. Also,
 > since it only fires 2 banks of injectors, I think Throttle Body would be the
 > way to go.
 >
 >
 > C. Vaughan
 >
 >
 > P.S. Sorry Jeremy about replying to you only. Hit the wrong reply button.
 >
 >
 >
 > "Jeremy" <jeremychapman.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote in message
 > news:TpMbc.20158$oR5.10835@pd7tw3no...
 >
  >>Anybody know what size injectors one would use for a flathead? Is there
  >>some sort of formula?
  >>
  >>"sammy" <sammy4469.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
  >>news:406238FB.6050300@hotmail.com...
  >>
   >>>Try this one. It's a DYI and is quite good.
   >>>http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html
   >>>
   >>>Jeremy wrote:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>>Great article! Too bad they don't have flathead specific information.
   >>>>
  >>I'm
  >>
   >>>>curious to know whether I should use the stock intake manifold, or
   >>>>
  >>something
  >>
   >>>>different. as well as what size injectors to use.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>><Theman.TakeThisOut@gpc.com> wrote in message
   >>>>news:o5so505a7jhq0vqb7ce9ipdhpep27dhsfd@4ax.com...
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>>Jeremy, you may find some useful informtion on the following web
<font color=brown>   >>>>>sites. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/5228/</font" target="_blank">http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/5228/</font</a>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:28:17 GMT, "Jeremy" <jeremychapman.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca>
   >>>>>wrote:
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>I want to fuel inject a merc 51 flathead. I actually saw a picture
   >>>>>>
  >>from
  >>
   >>>>>>1952 of a fuel injected setup that ford used, although it wasn't
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>available
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>>>commercially.
   >>>>>>Does anyone have any information on fuel injecting this engine?
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>
  >>
 >
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C. Vaughan

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Fuel inject 51 flathead [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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It's probably just a little different than what I need. I'm not running a
flathead, but a Thunderbird TurboCoupe engine. 2.3L I4, TPI. The engine is
being mounted in a British sports car along with a LOT of changes to the
vehicle itself and a balance and blueprint of the engine. A friend is an
electronics person and I asked him to look it over to see if it could be
made to fire 4 banks.




"sammy" <sammy4469.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40749A5B.3070409@hotmail.com...
> I've been looking at MegaSaquirt for other apps and it seems quite good.
> There is a formula for injector size but it relates to horsepower,
> not the engine size. These units have been put on everything from one
> and two cylinder racing bikes to VW flat 4 aircooled to 500+ horsepower
> V8's. There's a kind of steep learning curve but ideal if you really
> want to tune the system. I'm going to replace my 84 Mustang Turbo
> controller with one so I can adjust the power curve. The stock box just
> doesn't get it.
> As for firing 2 banks it is the system most EFI today are. Sequential
> units are complex and expensive for marginal gains. MPI with two banks
> gives better fuel distribution than a throttle body. That why you see
> all performance units as MPI.
>
> C. Vaughan wrote:
>
> > Do a lot of reading on that page. I think it was there somewhere.
Also,
> > since it only fires 2 banks of injectors, I think Throttle Body would be
the
> > way to go.
> >
> >
> > C. Vaughan
> >
> >
> > P.S. Sorry Jeremy about replying to you only. Hit the wrong reply
button.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jeremy" <jeremychapman.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:TpMbc.20158$oR5.10835@pd7tw3no...
> >
> >>Anybody know what size injectors one would use for a flathead? Is there
> >>some sort of formula?
> >>
> >>"sammy" <sammy4469.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:406238FB.6050300@hotmail.com...
> >>
> >>>Try this one. It's a DYI and is quite good.
> >>>http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html
> >>>
> >>>Jeremy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Great article! Too bad they don't have flathead specific information.
> >>>>
> >>I'm
> >>
> >>>>curious to know whether I should use the stock intake manifold, or
> >>>>
> >>something
> >>
> >>>>different. as well as what size injectors to use.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><Theman.TakeThisOut@gpc.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:o5so505a7jhq0vqb7ce9ipdhpep27dhsfd@4ax.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Jeremy, you may find some useful informtion on the following web
> >>>>>sites. http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/5228/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:28:17 GMT, "Jeremy" <jeremychapman.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca>
> >>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I want to fuel inject a merc 51 flathead. I actually saw a picture
> >>>>>>
> >>from
> >>
> >>>>>>1952 of a fuel injected setup that ford used, although it wasn't
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>available
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>commercially.
> >>>>>>Does anyone have any information on fuel injecting this engine?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Jeremy15

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:24 pm
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hey, no worries about the reply.


"C. Vaughan" <cobrakai_87nospam.RemoveThis@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
news:cLKcc.13647$vl7.3202@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
 > Do a lot of reading on that page. I think it was there somewhere. Also,
 > since it only fires 2 banks of injectors, I think Throttle Body would be
the
 > way to go.
 >
 >
 > C. Vaughan
 >
 >
 > P.S. Sorry Jeremy about replying to you only. Hit the wrong reply
button.
 >
 >
 >
 > "Jeremy" <jeremychapman.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
 > news:TpMbc.20158$oR5.10835@pd7tw3no...
  > > Anybody know what size injectors one would use for a flathead? Is there
  > > some sort of formula?
  > >
  > > "sammy" <sammy4469.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:406238FB.6050300@hotmail.com...
   > > > Try this one. It's a DYI and is quite good.
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html</font</a>>
   > > >
   > > > Jeremy wrote:
   > > >
   > > > > Great article! Too bad they don't have flathead specific
information.
  > > I'm
   > > > > curious to know whether I should use the stock intake manifold, or
  > > something
   > > > > different. as well as what size injectors to use.
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > > <Theman.RemoveThis@gpc.com> wrote in message
   > > > > news:o5so505a7jhq0vqb7ce9ipdhpep27dhsfd@4ax.com...
   > > > >
   > > > >>Jeremy, you may find some useful informtion on the following web
<font color=brown>   > > > >>sites. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/5228/</font" target="_blank">http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/5228/</font</a>>
   > > > >>
   > > > >>
   > > > >>On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:28:17 GMT, "Jeremy" <jeremychapman.RemoveThis@shaw.ca>
   > > > >>wrote:
   > > > >>
   > > > >>
   > > > >>>I want to fuel inject a merc 51 flathead. I actually saw a picture
  > > from
   > > > >>>1952 of a fuel injected setup that ford used, although it wasn't
   > > > >>>
   > > > > available
   > > > >
   > > > >>>commercially.
   > > > >>>Does anyone have any information on fuel injecting this engine?
   > > > >>>
   > > > >>>
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Fuel inject 51 flathead 
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