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Grumpy AuContraire

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:36 pm
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doug holverson wrote:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> But there are no shortages. This is concocted entirely by big oil in
>> concert with the guv'ment and speculators. This administration has
>> presided over a nearly 400% rise in energy prices, double digit
>> increases in food prices et al.
>>
>> I am no longer in favor of drilling but favor a changeover to new
>> technology. It is time to bury the internal combustion engine.
>
>
> Except for the Studebakers!
>
> DGH


Not to worry, the internal combustion engine would be around for
sometime which in itself would lower fuel prices.

Simple evolution indicates though that it is time for new technology
which is within grasp. All it would take is strong national leadership
(like the JFK "go to the moon" program) to bring it about.

It certainly is in our national interest to limit our consumption to
product(s) that we can produce domestically.

I'm sure that we'll still be driving our Studebakers well into the future...

JT

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Grumpy AuContraire

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:38 pm
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Dale J. wrote:

> <keith_kichefski.DeleteThis@wed.dresser.com> wrote in message
> news:67de489c-c321-4a3c-9df0-2942c3bef26d@n14g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
>>It is easy to blame big oil for the sharp rise in prices at the pump,
>>but they are not necessarily to blame. Everyone has probably heard of
>>"Futures Markets". People speculate on what any given commodity might
>>be worth in the future and bid on it. With oil running around $108
>>bbl. it stands to reason that someone had to bid on it, at that
>>price.
>
>
> HANG the speculators! When oil FIRST hit over $100 BBL it was tracked
> to ONE PERSON who says he did it just to prove that he could. He immediatly
> turned arround and SOLD those shares AT A LOSS of over $600. He did it on a
> lark.
>
>


Yes, but it helped pave the way to current prices by establishing a new
threshold.

JT

(who thinks that all speculators should be shot)

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:42 am
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"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy.DeleteThis@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
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> I'm with you.
>
> Round up all the speculators, execute 'em on teevee and corral the rest of
> shady operators and make 'em do time in the 'big house' breaking rocks.
>
> I'm wondering when the average American sheeple will take back his/her
> rights...
>
> JT
>
You gotta' be kidding, right? With obama & hillary the democrat party front
runners in the upcoming election, do you think the people in this country
will ever wake up in time? ROFL And McCain ain't no bargain either. Sadly
enough....
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:52 am
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ah wrote:

> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy.TakeThisOut@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
> news:sSbLj.84300$D_3.69196@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>> I'm with you.
>>
>> Round up all the speculators, execute 'em on teevee and corral the
>> rest of shady operators and make 'em do time in the 'big house'
>> breaking rocks.
>>
>> I'm wondering when the average American sheeple will take back his/her
>> rights...
>>
>> JT
>>
> You gotta' be kidding, right? With obama & hillary the democrat party
> front runners in the upcoming election, do you think the people in this
> country will ever wake up in time? ROFL And McCain ain't no bargain
> either. Sadly enough....


I think that I'll spend the next four years in the PI and just party
'til I cain't walk. Maybe I'll even find a used Studebaker to tool
around in...

JT
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George Mills

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:39 pm
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Time for the manufacturers to start selling Kei cars...and every other one a
3 cyl diesel turbodiesel like the Smart car (was), that can go 80 mph all
day long and still get better than 60 (US) mpg, including running the AC.

A neighbour has averaged about 75 mpg Imperial (about 60 per US gallon)
since new with his Smart, and still gets about 83 (66 US) on long trips at
65 mph+. He drives a lot with his. (he can afford to)

Jim B on PEI

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy.RemoveThis@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> doug holverson wrote:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>> But there are no shortages. This is concocted entirely by big oil in
>>> concert with the guv'ment and speculators. This administration has
>>> presided over a nearly 400% rise in energy prices, double digit
>>> increases in food prices et al.
>>>
>>> I am no longer in favor of drilling but favor a changeover to new
>>> technology. It is time to bury the internal combustion engine.
>>
>>
>> Except for the Studebakers!
>>
>> DGH
>
>
> Not to worry, the internal combustion engine would be around for sometime
> which in itself would lower fuel prices.
>
> Simple evolution indicates though that it is time for new technology which
> is within grasp. All it would take is strong national leadership (like
> the JFK "go to the moon" program) to bring it about.
>
> It certainly is in our national interest to limit our consumption to
> product(s) that we can produce domestically.
>
> I'm sure that we'll still be driving our Studebakers well into the
> future...
>
> JT
>
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:39 pm
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People are grumbling about the price of gasoline and there are plenty of
cars on the market that get 30 MPG or more and plenty that can get more than
35 MPG. The fact is buyers apparently do NOT want to buy the cars that get
36 MPG. They will settle for 30 MPG to get a vehicle that suits there
needs and wants. Look at what they are buying, the number one seller, for
most every manufacturer, is not their midger or small car but their midsize
cars. Take note of what you see on the highways, people are still driving
as fast and a far as ever and I still see a lot of campers and motor homes
on the roads.

What we should be concerned about is the price of diesel fuel. Up until
the end of 2007, before the newest federal regulation for diesel fuel, the
average cost of diesel fuel was 50c LESS than regular gasoline. Since the
regular went into effect diesel in now 50c a gallon MORE than premium
gasoline. Diesel trucks only get around 6 MPG. Everything we buy is and
will continue to go up, because everything we buy is transported by truck.
Even the food we eat us produced by using diesel fuel.

"George Mills" <geomb.TakeThisOut@isn.net> wrote in message
news:4krQj.2348$XI1.2076@edtnps91...
> Time for the manufacturers to start selling Kei cars...and every other one
> a 3 cyl diesel turbodiesel like the Smart car (was), that can go 80 mph
> all day long and still get better than 60 (US) mpg, including running the
> AC.
>
> A neighbour has averaged about 75 mpg Imperial (about 60 per US gallon)
> since new with his Smart, and still gets about 83 (66 US) on long trips at
> 65 mph+. He drives a lot with his. (he can afford to)
>
> Jim B on PEI
>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy.TakeThisOut@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
> news:ZesLj.166624$cQ1.90851@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:05 am
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Mike hunt wrote:

> People are grumbling about the price of gasoline and there are plenty of
> cars on the market that get 30 MPG or more and plenty that can get more than
> 35 MPG. The fact is buyers apparently do NOT want to buy the cars that get
> 36 MPG. They will settle for 30 MPG to get a vehicle that suits there
> needs and wants. Look at what they are buying, the number one seller, for
> most every manufacturer, is not their midger or small car but their midsize
> cars. Take note of what you see on the highways, people are still driving
> as fast and a far as ever and I still see a lot of campers and motor homes
> on the roads.
>
> What we should be concerned about is the price of diesel fuel. Up until
> the end of 2007, before the newest federal regulation for diesel fuel, the
> average cost of diesel fuel was 50c LESS than regular gasoline. Since the
> regular went into effect diesel in now 50c a gallon MORE than premium
> gasoline. Diesel trucks only get around 6 MPG. Everything we buy is and
> will continue to go up, because everything we buy is transported by truck.
> Even the food we eat us produced by using diesel fuel.
>


Which illustrates the ignorance of transporting commodities long
distance by truck when rail is a lot more efficient.

Trucks should be limited to local deliveries in surrounding areas near
major rail hubs.

JT
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:58 pm
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