Ford FE 390 intake Manifold Oil Baffle

i take a chisle and hammer dig under it and pry up

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The baffle is installed on the stock manifold when a heat riser valve is
used (this is the valve on one exhaust manifold that closes when cold -
sending exhaust gasses through a passage under the carburettor). The baffle
is meant to act as an "insulating" zone to keep oil from splashing against
the bottom of this passage (which can get very hot) and turning to hard
carbon deposits.

These deposits can flake off due to thermo cycling and always have the
chance to wind up in places they aren't really supposed to be. "Required"?
Weeelllllllll... Cheap insurance? Yup....


"Tom" <tjctransport.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> use a grinder, and cut the rivets. then toss the shield.
>
> it is not a big thing if it is not there.
> i have removed it from all my FE intakes, and the aftermarket 4 barrel
> intakes don't even come with it.
> "mwatterson" <mwatterson.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aad825ac-971f-41cb-97c1-9c8b731068cf@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 1970 Ford County Sedan with an FE 390 2V. There is a baffle
>> underneath the intake manifold which is attached by what appears to be
>> rivets. I can tell there is quite a bit of gunk in there and I want
>> to clean it. Are there any tips to getting the baffle off?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
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On May 27, 11:26 am, mwatterson <mwatter... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a 1970 Ford County Sedan with an FE 390 2V. There is a baffle
> underneath the intake manifold which is attached by what appears to be
> rivets. I can tell there is quite a bit of gunk in there and I want
> to clean it. Are there any tips to getting the baffle off?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Mike

Thanks for the advice. I removed the baffle and there was a large
amount of deposit underneath. I cleaned the manifold and now I need
to decide if I want to reinstall it.

Mike
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"mwatterson" <mwatterson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 27, 11:26 am, mwatterson <mwatter... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a 1970 Ford County Sedan with an FE 390 2V. There is a baffle
>> underneath the intake manifold which is attached by what appears to be
>> rivets. I can tell there is quite a bit of gunk in there and I want
>> to clean it. Are there any tips to getting the baffle off?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Mike
>
> Thanks for the advice. I removed the baffle and there was a large
> amount of deposit underneath. I cleaned the manifold and now I need
> to decide if I want to reinstall it.
>
> Mike

Did you remove the drive screws to get the baffle off, or did you just pull
it off over the heads of them? (IIRC, they are drive screws instead of
rivets- kinda like a small nail with thread-like grooves.) Like Warman was
saying, it's cheap insurance to prevent unwanted stuff from entering your
cylinders. If it was me, I'd put it back on, even if it meant drilling new
holes.

SC Tom
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On May 28, 4:50 pm, "SC Tom" <s... RemoveThis @tom.net> wrote:
> "mwatterson" <mwatter... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> > On May 27, 11:26 am, mwatterson <mwatter... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello,
>
> >> I have a 1970 Ford County Sedan with an FE 390 2V. There is a baffle
> >> underneath the intake manifold which is attached by what appears to be
> >> rivets. I can tell there is quite a bit of gunk in there and I want
> >> to clean it. Are there any tips to getting the baffle off?
>
> >> Thanks for any help.
>
> >> Mike
>
> > Thanks for the advice. I removed the baffle and there was a large
> > amount of deposit underneath. I cleaned the manifold and now I need
> > to decide if I want to reinstall it.
>
> > Mike
>
> Did you remove the drive screws to get the baffle off, or did you just pull
> it off over the heads of them? (IIRC, they are drive screws instead of
> rivets- kinda like a small nail with thread-like grooves.) Like Warman was
> saying, it's cheap insurance to prevent unwanted stuff from entering your
> cylinders. If it was me, I'd put it back on, even if it meant drilling new
> holes.
>
> SC Tom

SC Tom,

I was able to remove the screws. I hit them with a chisel in a North,
South, East, West pattern until they were loose enough to pry up. The
pan in intact, but one of the screws is questionable for reuse now.

I do plan on putting it back on. After thinking about it, I want to
keep it as original as designed as I can. If Ford put it there, I can
only assume there was a reason.

Now, I need to find out where I can get more of these screws. I would
doubt a hardware store will have them.

Mike
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"mwatterson" <mwatterson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 28, 4:50 pm, "SC Tom" <s... DeleteThis @tom.net> wrote:
>> "mwatterson" <mwatter... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5dc19deb-fab0-4b25-950c-37fed1880115@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 27, 11:26 am, mwatterson <mwatter... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>>
>> >> I have a 1970 Ford County Sedan with an FE 390 2V. There is a baffle
>> >> underneath the intake manifold which is attached by what appears to be
>> >> rivets. I can tell there is quite a bit of gunk in there and I want
>> >> to clean it. Are there any tips to getting the baffle off?
>>
>> >> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> >> Mike
>>
>> > Thanks for the advice. I removed the baffle and there was a large
>> > amount of deposit underneath. I cleaned the manifold and now I need
>> > to decide if I want to reinstall it.
>>
>> > Mike
>>
>> Did you remove the drive screws to get the baffle off, or did you just
>> pull
>> it off over the heads of them? (IIRC, they are drive screws instead of
>> rivets- kinda like a small nail with thread-like grooves.) Like Warman
>> was
>> saying, it's cheap insurance to prevent unwanted stuff from entering your
>> cylinders. If it was me, I'd put it back on, even if it meant drilling
>> new
>> holes.
>>
>> SC Tom
>
> SC Tom,
>
> I was able to remove the screws. I hit them with a chisel in a North,
> South, East, West pattern until they were loose enough to pry up. The
> pan in intact, but one of the screws is questionable for reuse now.
>
> I do plan on putting it back on. After thinking about it, I want to
> keep it as original as designed as I can. If Ford put it there, I can
> only assume there was a reason.
>
> Now, I need to find out where I can get more of these screws. I would
> doubt a hardware store will have them.
>
> Mike

Mike,

They're called type U drive screws. If your local Lowe's or Home Depot or
similar doesn't have them, they can be had on-line at McMaster.com.
Unfortunately, they come in packs of 100 to 10,000.

SC Tom
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mwatterson <mwatterson RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in news:3865fb1b-8bae-46a7-9843-
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> Now, I need to find out where I can get more of these screws. I would
> doubt a hardware store will have them.

Tap the holes to accept a common machine screw.
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elaich <x RemoveThis @y.z> wrote in news:6a9craF353socU1@mid.individual.net:

> mwatterson <mwatterson RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in news:3865fb1b-8bae-46a7-
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> 0ddf416f2a9b RemoveThis @56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Now, I need to find out where I can get more of these screws. I
would
>> doubt a hardware store will have them.
>
> Tap the holes to accept a common machine screw.

>

then make dam sure you locktite it. KB

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"Kevin" <kevyNOSPAM.RemoveThis@netins.net> wrote in message
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> elaich <x.RemoveThis@y.z> wrote in news:6a9craF353socU1@mid.individual.net:
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>> mwatterson <mwatterson.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in news:3865fb1b-8bae-46a7-
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>> 0ddf416f2a9b.RemoveThis@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Now, I need to find out where I can get more of these screws. I
> would
>>> doubt a hardware store will have them.
>>
>> Tap the holes to accept a common machine screw.
>
>>
>
> then make dam sure you locktite it. KB
>
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I'm not too sure loc-tite would hold up under that kind of heat. . .

SC Tom
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ive threaded and put screws in,then tack weld the screw head to
the sheet metal so it would stay put.

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On May 29, 6:42 pm, "SC Tom" <s....RemoveThis@tom.net> wrote:
> "mwatterson" <mwatter....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> > On May 28, 4:50 pm, "SC Tom" <s....RemoveThis@tom.net> wrote:
> >> "mwatterson" <mwatter....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:5dc19deb-fab0-4b25-950c-37fed1880115@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On May 27, 11:26 am, mwatterson <mwatter....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hello,
>
> >> >> I have a 1970 Ford County Sedan with an FE 390 2V. There is a baffle
> >> >> underneath the intake manifold which is attached by what appears to be
> >> >> rivets. I can tell there is quite a bit of gunk in there and I want
> >> >> to clean it. Are there any tips to getting the baffle off?
>
> >> >> Thanks for any help.
>
> >> >> Mike
>
> >> > Thanks for the advice. I removed the baffle and there was a large
> >> > amount of deposit underneath. I cleaned the manifold and now I need
> >> > to decide if I want to reinstall it.
>
> >> > Mike
>
> >> Did you remove the drive screws to get the baffle off, or did you just
> >> pull
> >> it off over the heads of them? (IIRC, they are drive screws instead of
> >> rivets- kinda like a small nail with thread-like grooves.) Like Warman
> >> was
> >> saying, it's cheap insurance to prevent unwanted stuff from entering your
> >> cylinders. If it was me, I'd put it back on, even if it meant drilling
> >> new
> >> holes.
>
> >> SC Tom
>
> > SC Tom,
>
> > I was able to remove the screws. I hit them with a chisel in a North,
> > South, East, West pattern until they were loose enough to pry up. The
> > pan in intact, but one of the screws is questionable for reuse now.
>
> > I do plan on putting it back on. After thinking about it, I want to
> > keep it as original as designed as I can. If Ford put it there, I can
> > only assume there was a reason.
>
> > Now, I need to find out where I can get more of these screws. I would
> > doubt a hardware store will have them.
>
> > Mike
>
> Mike,
>
> They're called type U drive screws. If your local Lowe's or Home Depot or
> similar doesn't have them, they can be had on-line at McMaster.com.
> Unfortunately, they come in packs of 100 to 10,000.
>
> SC Tom

I just checked McMaster, and 100 costs less than $5. I'll check
Lowe's and Home Depot first though. Thanks for all the great advice.

Mike
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