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Since: Oct 23, 2007 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:55 am
Post subject: Electrical problem in 9000 Archived from groups: alt>autos>saab (more info?)
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I recently had my 97 9000 Aero in for repair at my excellent local repair
shop. I had them replace the ignition switch in the steering column. While
there, I asked them to check the electrical system generally because of
something I'd noticed. As I'd drive down the road, I noticed that the
voltage on the dashboard indicator would go up and down. Anywhere from 11
volts to 14.2, usually up around 14 where it belongs. They found that the
alternator was putting out considerably less than the correct amount so I
had them replace it. I still have some fluctuation in the reading on the
gauge but much less than I used to have. But, as I drive along, I do notice
a dimming of the headlights from time to time. No new load (like an a/c
compressor) kicking in, just driving down the road. The lights come back up
to normal brightness in a few seconds. The shop is aware that the voltage
still isn't right but none of us are sure where to check next. The battery
is about two years old, on a 60 month Interstate battery.
Anyone have an idea on what might be causing this fluctuation in the
voltage?
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Since: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:55 am
Post subject: Re: Electrical problem in 9000 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Two items I would check would be the light switch itself and the headlight
relays - also the wiring going to each of them around the points where it
meets the connectors and the relay panel. I am not certain, but I believe
that the usual failure mode for the headlight relay is simply no light at
all from one or both of the lamps, usually the high beam - but still it is
not a bad place to start. What usually happens is that the relay itself is
not bad but the solder joints begin to fail in the relay board where the
contact pins that connnect the relay to the relay panel (this is in the box
in front of the battery, not the panel above the fuse board under the airbag
in the passenger footwell). Typically the relay problem can be solved by
simply re-flowing the solder joints with a low watt soldering iron and maybe
a bit more electrical solder - but as I said, that failure usually isn't one
of dimming and brightening.
"Milo" <milo_dhuey RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I recently had my 97 9000 Aero in for repair at my excellent local repair
> shop. I had them replace the ignition switch in the steering column. While
> there, I asked them to check the electrical system generally because of
> something I'd noticed. As I'd drive down the road, I noticed that the
> voltage on the dashboard indicator would go up and down. Anywhere from 11
> volts to 14.2, usually up around 14 where it belongs. They found that the
> alternator was putting out considerably less than the correct amount so I
> had them replace it. I still have some fluctuation in the reading on the
> gauge but much less than I used to have. But, as I drive along, I do
> notice
> a dimming of the headlights from time to time. No new load (like an a/c
> compressor) kicking in, just driving down the road. The lights come back
> up
> to normal brightness in a few seconds. The shop is aware that the voltage
> still isn't right but none of us are sure where to check next. The battery
> is about two years old, on a 60 month Interstate battery.
>
> Anyone have an idea on what might be causing this fluctuation in the
> voltage?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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Since: Nov 13, 2005 Posts: 43
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Electrical problem in 9000 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Milo" <milo_dhuey.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I recently had my 97 9000 Aero in for repair at my excellent local repair
> shop. I had them replace the ignition switch in the steering column. While
> there, I asked them to check the electrical system generally because of
> something I'd noticed. As I'd drive down the road, I noticed that the
> voltage on the dashboard indicator would go up and down. Anywhere from 11
> volts to 14.2, usually up around 14 where it belongs. They found that the
> alternator was putting out considerably less than the correct amount so I
> had them replace it. I still have some fluctuation in the reading on the
> gauge but much less than I used to have. But, as I drive along, I do
> notice
> a dimming of the headlights from time to time. No new load (like an a/c
> compressor) kicking in, just driving down the road. The lights come back
> up
> to normal brightness in a few seconds. The shop is aware that the voltage
> still isn't right but none of us are sure where to check next. The battery
> is about two years old, on a 60 month Interstate battery.
>
> Anyone have an idea on what might be causing this fluctuation in the
> voltage?
>
> Thanks.
My favorite item to check is the main feed to the relay panel above the
passenger's feet. A large red cable (from the battery) feeds everything on
the panel and is secured by a nut and bolt that can, over time, loosen and
cause a minor flickering (at first) which gets worse over time.
Walt Kienzle
1991 9000T >> Stay informed about: Electrical problem in 9000 |
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Since: Oct 12, 2006 Posts: 255
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Electrical problem in 9000 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Milo wrote:
> I recently had my 97 9000 Aero in for repair at my excellent local repair
> shop. I had them replace the ignition switch in the steering column. While
> there, I asked them to check the electrical system generally because of
> something I'd noticed. As I'd drive down the road, I noticed that the
> voltage on the dashboard indicator would go up and down. Anywhere from 11
> volts to 14.2, usually up around 14 where it belongs. They found that the
> alternator was putting out considerably less than the correct amount so I
> had them replace it. I still have some fluctuation in the reading on the
> gauge but much less than I used to have. But, as I drive along, I do notice
> a dimming of the headlights from time to time. No new load (like an a/c
> compressor) kicking in, just driving down the road. The lights come back up
> to normal brightness in a few seconds. The shop is aware that the voltage
> still isn't right but none of us are sure where to check next. The battery
> is about two years old, on a 60 month Interstate battery.
>
> Anyone have an idea on what might be causing this fluctuation in the
> voltage?
There's a broken headlamp filament detection circuit in relay type enclsiure in
the 'relay box' in the engine compartment. The soldering can go bad and high
resistance. I fixed one simply by resoldering.
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Since: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:55 am
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This makes a lot more sense than the headlight relay or headlight switch -
"Walt Kienzle" <wkienzle DeleteThis @core.com> wrote in message
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> "Milo" <milo_dhuey DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:xDZej.2883$jX4.1187@trnddc07...
>>I recently had my 97 9000 Aero in for repair at my excellent local repair
>> shop. I had them replace the ignition switch in the steering column.
>> While
>> there, I asked them to check the electrical system generally because of
>> something I'd noticed. As I'd drive down the road, I noticed that the
>> voltage on the dashboard indicator would go up and down. Anywhere from 11
>> volts to 14.2, usually up around 14 where it belongs. They found that the
>> alternator was putting out considerably less than the correct amount so I
>> had them replace it. I still have some fluctuation in the reading on the
>> gauge but much less than I used to have. But, as I drive along, I do
>> notice
>> a dimming of the headlights from time to time. No new load (like an a/c
>> compressor) kicking in, just driving down the road. The lights come back
>> up
>> to normal brightness in a few seconds. The shop is aware that the voltage
>> still isn't right but none of us are sure where to check next. The
>> battery
>> is about two years old, on a 60 month Interstate battery.
>>
>> Anyone have an idea on what might be causing this fluctuation in the
>> voltage?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> My favorite item to check is the main feed to the relay panel above the
> passenger's feet. A large red cable (from the battery) feeds everything
> on the panel and is secured by a nut and bolt that can, over time, loosen
> and cause a minor flickering (at first) which gets worse over time.
>
> Walt Kienzle
> 1991 9000T
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Since: Jan 06, 2008 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Electrical problem in 9000 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Milo used his keyboard to write :
> I recently had my 97 9000 Aero in for repair at my excellent local repair
> shop. I had them replace the ignition switch in the steering column. While
> there, I asked them to check the electrical system generally because of
> something I'd noticed. As I'd drive down the road, I noticed that the
> voltage on the dashboard indicator would go up and down. Anywhere from 11
> volts to 14.2, usually up around 14 where it belongs. They found that the
> alternator was putting out considerably less than the correct amount so I
> had them replace it. I still have some fluctuation in the reading on the
> gauge but much less than I used to have. But, as I drive along, I do notice
> a dimming of the headlights from time to time. No new load (like an a/c
> compressor) kicking in, just driving down the road. The lights come back up
> to normal brightness in a few seconds. The shop is aware that the voltage
> still isn't right but none of us are sure where to check next. The battery
> is about two years old, on a 60 month Interstate battery.
>
> Anyone have an idea on what might be causing this fluctuation in the
> voltage?
>
> Thanks.
Check earth leads especially engine to body.
Cheers
Clive >> Stay informed about: Electrical problem in 9000 |
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