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filipeapinto

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:44 pm
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Hi,

I was driving my 98 Accord when the "Check Engine Light" lit. I have a
stick-shift and i just replaced not too long ago a O2 sensor.

This time i went to Honda and asked them to read the code and they came
back with PO1456.

Does any of you know what this code is?

Thanks,

Filipe

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:29 pm
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Brian,

Thank you for your reply.

Honda makes great cars. I wish they would make great professionals.

They wanted to charge $90 to check the code. I said i wouldn't pay and
that i wanted them to just give me the code.

To be quite honest, i was quite happy to leave the place and i wish
didn't have to look into their faces ever again.

Having said that it seems that i have to go back because this doesn't
sound like something i could do on my own...

What do you think?

Thanks,

Filipe

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:41 pm
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Hi All,

Based on Brian's great tip I found that this is typically the gas cap
problem. Now, the problem is if the gas cap was properly sealed. That
means that i can have an actual EVAP system problem. Any tips on this
one?

My car has been idle for long periods of time since I'm travelling most
of the time. The car had been idle for 2 weeks and with a very small
amount of gas in the tank. I was really "reving-up" the engine when the
light came on.

Any help would be precious.

Thanks,

Filipe
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:38 pm
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Woody,

Thank you so much for your feedback.

I'm a consultant myself. I ask people to buy my knowledge on a hourly
basis.

I didn't ask Honda for a diagnostic of the problem. I asked them to
give me the code in the context of a $30 oil change.

It seems to me that when a regular oil change costs $12 it wouldn't be
too much to ask.

What do you think?

And to be quite honest, i got hand-written on the invoice the code
"PO1456" (I'm not an expert and therefore i wouldn't come up with that
number myself).

They could have told me - "... don't worry just tight up the gas
cap..." but they didn't nor (important factor) did i ask.

Hope this makes it a little bit more clear.

Thanks,

Filipe
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Brian Smith

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:55 pm
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<filipeapinto.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I was driving my 98 Accord when the "Check Engine Light" lit. I have a
> stick-shift and i just replaced not too long ago a O2 sensor.
>
> This time i went to Honda and asked them to read the code and they came
> back with PO1456.
>
> Does any of you know what this code is?

P1456 is EVAP Emission Control System Leak Detected (Fuel Tank System).

My book with my OBD II Code Reader doesn't have anything showing for PO1456.

Aside from that if you went to your dealer to have the code read, why didn't
you ask them to tell you what the code meant?

Brian
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:29 pm
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"Brian Smith" <Halifax RemoveThis @NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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>
> <filipeapinto RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1129578257.192814.86670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was driving my 98 Accord when the "Check Engine Light" lit. I have a
>> stick-shift and i just replaced not too long ago a O2 sensor.
>>
>> This time i went to Honda and asked them to read the code and they came
>> back with PO1456.
>>
>> Does any of you know what this code is?
>
> P1456 is EVAP Emission Control System Leak Detected (Fuel Tank System).
>
>
I had that problem with my 2000 Odyssey. Replaced gas cap. Not it.
Finally had the dealer replace the filler neck. That worked. I had bought
the extended warranty so I only paid the $50 deductible.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:55 pm
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filipeapinto RemoveThis @msn.com wrote in
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> Hi,
>
> I was driving my 98 Accord when the "Check Engine Light" lit. I have a
> stick-shift and i just replaced not too long ago a O2 sensor.
>
> This time i went to Honda and asked them to read the code and they came
> back with PO1456.



No, a P1456. No such code as P01456.



>
> Does any of you know what this code is?
>



Fuel filler cap is loose.

Tighten *at least SIX* clicks. Wait three engine on-off cycles. Light
should go off.

If it does not go off, the cap may not fit tightly enough for a proper
seal. Replace cap. Occasionally, the threads in the filler necks can be
damaged, preventing the cap from being properly tightened.


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:55 pm
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"filipeapinto@msn.com" <filipeapinto.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote in
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> Hi All,
>
> Based on Brian's great tip I found that this is typically the gas cap
> problem. Now, the problem is if the gas cap was properly sealed. That
> means that i can have an actual EVAP system problem. Any tips on this
> one?



The EVAP system is sophisticated enough that there is a unique code for
pretty much each separate problem.



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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:55 pm
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"filipeapinto@msn.com" <filipeapinto.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote in
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> Woody,
>
> Thank you so much for your feedback.
>
> I'm a consultant myself. I ask people to buy my knowledge on a hourly
> basis.
>
> I didn't ask Honda for a diagnostic of the problem. I asked them to
> give me the code in the context of a $30 oil change.
>
> It seems to me that when a regular oil change costs $12 it wouldn't be
> too much to ask.
>
> What do you think?
>
> And to be quite honest, i got hand-written on the invoice the code
> "PO1456" (I'm not an expert and therefore i wouldn't come up with that
> number myself).



No such number.


P1456, yes. P01456, no.

And any error code starting with "P0" contains a ZERO, not the letter "O".

P0 codes are standard EPA-mandated codes. P1, P2, etc are automaker-
specific "enhanced" codes not required by the EPA.


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Brian Smith

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:55 pm
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<filipeapinto RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> Brian,
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> Honda makes great cars. I wish they would make great professionals.
>
> They wanted to charge $90 to check the code. I said i wouldn't pay and
> that i wanted them to just give me the code.

The dealership I deal with charges $46.00 plus tax of course, to check the
code and reset the light. That's why I purchased the OBD II reader. After
six uses it will have more than paid for itself.

> To be quite honest, i was quite happy to leave the place and i wish
> didn't have to look into their faces ever again.
>
> Having said that it seems that i have to go back because this doesn't
> sound like something i could do on my own...
>
> What do you think?

I've had the same code come up in the past, once the light is reset (in my
case) it never came back on. It could be a very infrequent occurrence. If it
comes on again, I would investigate it further at that time.

Brian
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:20 am
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On 2005-10-18, Steve H <hansensw.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Most techs get paid by the job....

It's been many years since I worked as a motor mechanic. I wasn't
aware the profession had degraded so much.

nb
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:00 pm
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-->GOOD NEWS! MY PROBLEM WAS SOLVED!<--

I'm happy to announce that late last night when i was driving home, the
light turned off. I followed the advice of turning the gas cap a even
more - 5 clicks ++.

I believe that it clear that Honda needs to offer the service for free
since it should be mandatory to show the ECU code in the dashboard.

This Honda dearlership called me for the regular post-morten "customer
satisfaction". I really gave a lot of "1"s. I hope to talk to Honda
Corporation.

I believe i need to move to Accura. Same manufacture.... different
Customer Support... sad... sad...
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:55 pm
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"Steve H" <hansensw.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote
> > Doctors, lawyers, engineers: You name the profession, they all have this
> > "work" ethic.
> >
> > Why shouldn't mechanics be getting their cut?
> >
> Thanks Elle,
> For Quick code reading I have a cheap scanner. $600.00. Startup time
is
> quick does all OBDII, some OBD1. the shops scanners; one is a older
snap-on.
> 2700 new. The new scanner is a gyenises, the basic one is around 3000.00,
> with all the upgrades for almost all cars about 5000.00. My dream scanner
> is a Modis by snap-on 8000.00 for the options I want.

This is good information for folks here and customers in general to have.

> Dealers have there own
> scanners that can do lots more on the brand car than the generic models.
> Most techs get paid by the job, and have to pay for the tools.

That's another, what, like $3000 right there for a "basic" tool set.

> There
> for we don't care if the customer wants a free service with there 30.00
oil
> change, we want to get that car out of there if there not going to buy
> anything else so we can keep trying to earn a living.

That is /completely/ understandable.

At least your profession is not in cahoots with the insurance industry and
academia to push up prices more than any other profession of which I can
think, burying customers in far more undecipherable paperwork, for which
getting answers is far more difficult.

I won't even elaborate on the countless government "workers" (as well as
private industry workers) who post to the net on my tax dollar or on company
time, for fun or whatever. One will not see auto technicians doing this.
They're too busy actually earning a living.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:57 pm
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>
> Doctors, lawyers, engineers: You name the profession, they all have this
> "work" ethic.
>
> Why shouldn't mechanics be getting their cut?
>
Thanks Elle,
For Quick code reading I have a cheap scanner. $600.00. Startup time is
quick does all OBDII, some OBD1. the shops scanners; one is a older snap-on.
2700 new. The new scanner is a gyenises, the basic one is around 3000.00,
with all the upgrades for almost all cars about 5000.00. My dream scanner
is a Modis by snap-on 8000.00 for the options I want. Dealers have there own
scanners that can do lots more on the brand car than the generic models.
Most techs get paid by the job, and have to pay for the tools. There
for we don't care if the customer wants a free service with there 30.00 oil
change, we want to get that car out of there if there not going to buy
anything else so we can keep trying to earn a living.


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ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
ASE Undercar Specialist


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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:55 pm
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"Steve H" <hansensw.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> For Quick code reading I have a cheap scanner. $600.00. Startup time is
> quick does all OBDII, some OBD1. the shops scanners; one is a older
> snap-on. 2700 new. The new scanner is a gyenises, the basic one is around
> 3000.00, with all the upgrades for almost all cars about 5000.00. My
> dream scanner is a Modis by snap-on 8000.00 for the options I want.
> Dealers have there own scanners that can do lots more on the brand car
> than the generic models.

$149.99 at Canadian Tire for the basic OBD II Reader with reset capability.

Brian
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