Changing CV axles

You have not described the symptom set of a bad CV joint. You have described
the symptom of an out-of-balance tire.





"nobody" <somewhere RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> How much of a problem to change the CV axles on a 2x2 Highlander 3.0L
> (V6)? Approximate time requirements.
>
> The reason I am asking is that I am experiencing vibration (70 plus mph)
> on the right front feels like out of balance tire, but same vibration when
> tires are rotated.
>
> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>
> BTW, I am mechanically inclined, have changed timing chain on 22R, done
> many brake jobs, etc.
 >> Stay informed about: Changing CV axles 

May also want to check your idler arm. A worn one can cause a vibration.
They are cheap and easy to change.

Bubba
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> You have not described the symptom set of a bad CV joint. You have
> described the symptom of an out-of-balance tire.
>
>
>
>
>
> "nobody" <somewhere RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:g1fhco01uh0@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> How much of a problem to change the CV axles on a 2x2 Highlander 3.0L
>> (V6)? Approximate time requirements.
>>
>> The reason I am asking is that I am experiencing vibration (70 plus mph)
>> on the right front feels like out of balance tire, but same vibration
>> when tires are rotated.
>>
>> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> BTW, I am mechanically inclined, have changed timing chain on 22R, done
>> many brake jobs, etc.
>
 >> Stay informed about: Changing CV axles 

Jeff,

The tires have been balanced and rotated and I still have a vibration in
the front right wheel at 70 to 80 mph. But at 80 to 82 the vibration
disappears.

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> You have not described the symptom set of a bad CV joint. You have
> described the symptom of an out-of-balance tire.
>
>
>
>
>
> "nobody" <somewhere.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:g1fhco01uh0@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> How much of a problem to change the CV axles on a 2x2 Highlander 3.0L
>> (V6)? Approximate time requirements.
>>
>> The reason I am asking is that I am experiencing vibration (70 plus
>> mph) on the right front feels like out of balance tire, but same
>> vibration when tires are rotated.
>>
>> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> BTW, I am mechanically inclined, have changed timing chain on 22R,
>> done many brake jobs, etc.
>
 >> Stay informed about: Changing CV axles 

Thanks John!

johngdole DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> http://www.2carpros.com/topics/vibes.htm
>
> Question: 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager, mileage: 55,000. Steering wheel
> vibration at 70 mph. Brought the van in 3 times for wheel balancing
> but vibration still exists when I reach 70. Last time in for balancing
> they told me that they saw some tire feathering and that perhaps I
> needed new struts and shocks. Is this possible with only 55,000
> carefully driven miles?
>
> Answer: CV joints that are starting to fail will cause a vibration
> like what you are experiencing. Your struts and shocks are not the
> cause of the feathering. Improper wheel alignment can cause tires to
> feather, however. There are three adjustments for wheel alignment,
> caster, camber and toe in/toe out.
>
> See also:
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/how_to_central/automotive/1272406.html?page=2
>
> If the joint is identified as the problem, try Cardone Select new
> halfshafts from you local parts store. Around $70-80 with *lifetime
> warranty*. I have used these and also re-boot original halfshafts with
> Redline CV-2 synthetic grease if the joints are good. Owner's call.
>
>
>
> On May 26, 4:33 pm, nobody <somewh... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>> How much of a problem to change the CV axles on a 2x2 Highlander 3.0L
>> (V6)? Approximate time requirements.
>>
>> The reason I am asking is that I am experiencing vibration (70 plus mph)
>> on the right front feels like out of balance tire, but same vibration
>> when tires are rotated.
>>
>> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> BTW, I am mechanically inclined, have changed timing chain on 22R, done
>> many brake jobs, etc.
>
 >> Stay informed about: Changing CV axles 

I agree with Jeff that most outer CV joint failures from torn boots
are clicking joints while turning and is what we commonly see.

However, I'll link to this web site on vibration caused by inner joint
and how Gerald's diagnostics procedure works:

http://www.geraldstires.com/Services/CV/cvjoints.htm

The 2carpros web site I attached earlier is the only one describing
something similar to yours and they attributed it to failing cv joint.
I don't know because I haven't seen this type of failure mode.



On May 27, 5:01 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr... DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote:
> You still have not described the symptom of a bad CV joint, and once again
> described an out of balance tire.
>
> The CV Joint will make a clicking noise during a full-lock turn, and as the
> symptoms get worse, the clicking will come when you back out of the driveway
> and into the street, then turn the wheel and drive off.
>
> I'm not going to tell you that there is no way for a CV joint to cause a
> vibration, but I've never felt a vibration from a bad CV joint, and I do not
> recall people with known bad CV joints describing a vibration as part of the
> problem they wanted to fix. You could have a bad CV Joint, but I'd expect
> noise at parking lot speeds before vibrations are set up.
 >> Stay informed about: Changing CV axles 

While we are at it: Autozone's repair guide:

http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/04/ce/3e/0900823d8004...e/repai


# A shudder or vibration when accelerating is often caused by
excessive play in either the inboard or outboard joint but more likely
it is the inboard plunge joint. These vibrations can also be caused by
a bad intermediate shaft bearing on transaxles with equal-length half
shafts. On FWD vehicles with transverse-mounted engines, this kind of
vibration can also be caused by loose or deteriorated engine/transaxle
mounts. Be sure to inspect the rubber bushings in the engine's upper
torque strap to rule out this possibility. A vibration or shudder that
increases with speed or comes and goes at a certain speed may be the
result of excessive play in an inner or outer joint. A bent axle shaft
can cause the same problem. Note, however, that some shudder could
also be inherent to the vehicle.

# A cyclic vibration that comes and goes between 45 and 60 mph (72 and
100 km) may lead the technician to think there is a wheel that is out
of balance. However, as a rule, an out-of-balance wheel produces a
continuous vibration. A more likely cause is a bad inner tripod CV
joint. The vibration occurs because one of the three roller tracks has
become dimpled or rough. Every time the tripod roller on the bad track
hits the rough spot, it creates a little jerk in the driveline, which
the driver feels as a cyclic vibration.

Hope this helps.


On May 26, 4:33 pm, nobody <somewh....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> How much of a problem to change the CV axles on a 2x2 Highlander 3.0L
> (V6)? Approximate time requirements.
>
> The reason I am asking is that I am experiencing vibration (70 plus mph)
> on the right front feels like out of balance tire, but same vibration
> when tires are rotated.
>
> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>
> BTW, I am mechanically inclined, have changed timing chain on 22R, done
> many brake jobs, etc.
 >> Stay informed about: Changing CV axles 

You still have not described the symptom of a bad CV joint, and once again
described an out of balance tire.

The CV Joint will make a clicking noise during a full-lock turn, and as the
symptoms get worse, the clicking will come when you back out of the driveway
and into the street, then turn the wheel and drive off.

I'm not going to tell you that there is no way for a CV joint to cause a
vibration, but I've never felt a vibration from a bad CV joint, and I do not
recall people with known bad CV joints describing a vibration as part of the
problem they wanted to fix. You could have a bad CV Joint, but I'd expect
noise at parking lot speeds before vibrations are set up.



"nobody" <somewhere RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff,
>
> The tires have been balanced and rotated and I still have a vibration in
> the front right wheel at 70 to 80 mph. But at 80 to 82 the vibration
> disappears.
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> You have not described the symptom set of a bad CV joint. You have
>> described the symptom of an out-of-balance tire.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "nobody" <somewhere RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:g1fhco01uh0@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>> How much of a problem to change the CV axles on a 2x2 Highlander 3.0L
>>> (V6)? Approximate time requirements.
>>>
>>> The reason I am asking is that I am experiencing vibration (70 plus mph)
>>> on the right front feels like out of balance tire, but same vibration
>>> when tires are rotated.
>>>
>>> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> BTW, I am mechanically inclined, have changed timing chain on 22R, done
>>> many brake jobs, etc.
>>
 >> Stay informed about: Changing CV axles 

Jeff,

I would have to agree with you, but if it was an out of balance tire,
the vibration would shift to other locations when I rotate the tires.

I jacked up the front right and ran it up to 70 mph...bad vibration.
Then I took the tire off and ran it up to 70 mph again, still vibration
but not as bad when tire was on. Then I lowered the right side and
jacked up the left side. Again I ran it up to 70 mph and it was smooth;
now vibrations.



Jeff Strickland wrote:
> You still have not described the symptom of a bad CV joint, and once
> again described an out of balance tire.
>
> The CV Joint will make a clicking noise during a full-lock turn, and as
> the symptoms get worse, the clicking will come when you back out of the
> driveway and into the street, then turn the wheel and drive off.
>
> I'm not going to tell you that there is no way for a CV joint to cause a
> vibration, but I've never felt a vibration from a bad CV joint, and I do
> not recall people with known bad CV joints describing a vibration as
> part of the problem they wanted to fix. You could have a bad CV Joint,
> but I'd expect noise at parking lot speeds before vibrations are set up.
>
>
>
> "nobody" <somewhere RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:g1i2kc01aob@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> Jeff,
>>
>> The tires have been balanced and rotated and I still have a vibration
>> in the front right wheel at 70 to 80 mph. But at 80 to 82 the
>> vibration disappears.
>>
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> You have not described the symptom set of a bad CV joint. You have
>>> described the symptom of an out-of-balance tire.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "nobody" <somewhere RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g1fhco01uh0@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>>> How much of a problem to change the CV axles on a 2x2 Highlander
>>>> 3.0L (V6)? Approximate time requirements.
>>>>
>>>> The reason I am asking is that I am experiencing vibration (70 plus
>>>> mph) on the right front feels like out of balance tire, but same
>>>> vibration when tires are rotated.
>>>>
>>>> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I am mechanically inclined, have changed timing chain on 22R,
>>>> done many brake jobs, etc.
>>>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Changing CV axles