C900 Window motors

"Grunff" <grunff.TakeThisOut@ixxa.com> wrote in message
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 > Mike P wrote:
 >
  > > Well, got myself yet another 900 T16 (SPG), this one's a 1990 UK model
  > > .Only thing wrong is that neither window works. I'm hoping it's just the
  > > switches or fuse, but going from past experience it's probably not.
I've
  > > always paid to have my other windows fixed, but this time I'm going to
do it
  > > myself.
  > >
  > > So, please can anyone give me a quick "idiots guide" to getting the
window
  > > and motors etc in and out of the door? I was just going to buy a recon
motor
  > > and window kit from partsforsaabs, but it'd be useful if I have a vague
idea
  > > of what I'm taking on first. I'm not too bad with spanners, managed a
full
  > > engine swap on the last T16 (and it still goes!!) but electric windows
have
  > > always frightened me off....
 >
 >
 > It's really not that hard. Remove the door trim, remove the screws which
 > hold the window glass to the regulator, remove the bolts which hold the
 > regulator assembly to the door, withdraw regulator assembly.
 >
 > It helps to have another pair of hands (or lots of gaffer tape) to hold
 > the window glass in place.
 >
 > As far as recon motors, I've never needed one. The brushes are rarely
 > very worn. What the motors need is a stripdown, cleanup and oil.
 >

Thanks for your advice Grunff. Will give it a go at the weekend.

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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:56:06 -0000, Mike P <privacy.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote:
 >
 > So, please can anyone give me a quick "idiots guide" to getting the window
 > and motors etc in and out of the door?

From memory...

Remove the door handle surround; remove the screws holding the door inner
shell to the door. Set these aside.

The motor has a spur gear on it which drives the window up and down.
The easiest thing to check, and do this before you buy anything, is if it's
just gummed up. At that age, it's not unreasonable to think that the
substance-formerly-known-as-grease on the clock spring, and in the motor
assembly, have formed into a rock-like substance. Degrease the spring with
your favorite solvent, and re-apply something preferably of the synthetic
variety. Then, while you have the motor off of the door (just hanging
inside is fine), see if the motor runs. If the gear turns a bit, or
sluggishly, then it's gummed up inside. It's fairly easy to remove the
side plate & degrease and relube that as well.

 > I was just going to buy a recon motor
 > and window kit from partsforsaabs, but it'd be useful if I have a vague idea
 > of what I'm taking on first. I'm not too bad with spanners, managed a full
 > engine swap on the last T16 (and it still goes!!)

If you've handled an engine swap, the window motors will be dead simple for
you. No worries.

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"Dave Hinz" <DaveHinz RemoveThis @spamcop.net> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:56:06 -0000, Mike P <privacy RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote:
  > >
  > > So, please can anyone give me a quick "idiots guide" to getting the
window
  > > and motors etc in and out of the door?
 >
 > From memory...
 >
 > Remove the door handle surround; remove the screws holding the door inner
 > shell to the door. Set these aside.
 >
 > The motor has a spur gear on it which drives the window up and down.
 > The easiest thing to check, and do this before you buy anything, is if
it's
 > just gummed up. At that age, it's not unreasonable to think that the
 > substance-formerly-known-as-grease on the clock spring, and in the motor
 > assembly, have formed into a rock-like substance. Degrease the spring
with
 > your favorite solvent, and re-apply something preferably of the synthetic
 > variety. Then, while you have the motor off of the door (just hanging
 > inside is fine), see if the motor runs. If the gear turns a bit, or
 > sluggishly, then it's gummed up inside. It's fairly easy to remove the
 > side plate & degrease and relube that as well.
 >
  > > I was just going to buy a recon motor
  > > and window kit from partsforsaabs, but it'd be useful if I have a vague
idea
  > > of what I'm taking on first. I'm not too bad with spanners, managed a
full
  > > engine swap on the last T16 (and it still goes!!)
 >
 > If you've handled an engine swap, the window motors will be dead simple
for
 > you. No worries.

Thanks For your help Dave! Engine swap wasn't hard at all. I've done pretty
much everything else on a car, but even non-electric windows scare me!! My
last 900 had a right side window that would stick if you wound it right
down. Solution was to remove the door card and thwack the motor with a
hammer while pressing the switch..

MIke<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Hi Mike - congrats on the new purchase.

One thing before you pull the doors apart ... open the actual switches
and check for current passing. "Tired window syndrome" is attributed to
a lack of current able to pass through the swicth due to poor contacts
- the contacts can be scraped clean. I presume that "stuck" windows
*could* be an extreme case of this ...
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Ha, ha! That doesn't sound as though you're scared to me, it's possibly its
opposite, though...

"Mike P" <privacy.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Dave Hinz" <DaveHinz.RemoveThis@spamcop.net> wrote in message
 > news:35khtcF4lufb6U2@individual.net...
  >> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:56:06 -0000, Mike P <privacy.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote:
   >> >
   >> > So, please can anyone give me a quick "idiots guide" to getting the
 > window
   >> > and motors etc in and out of the door?
  >>
  >> From memory...
  >>
  >> Remove the door handle surround; remove the screws holding the door inner
  >> shell to the door. Set these aside.
  >>
  >> The motor has a spur gear on it which drives the window up and down.
  >> The easiest thing to check, and do this before you buy anything, is if
 > it's
  >> just gummed up. At that age, it's not unreasonable to think that the
  >> substance-formerly-known-as-grease on the clock spring, and in the motor
  >> assembly, have formed into a rock-like substance. Degrease the spring
 > with
  >> your favorite solvent, and re-apply something preferably of the synthetic
  >> variety. Then, while you have the motor off of the door (just hanging
  >> inside is fine), see if the motor runs. If the gear turns a bit, or
  >> sluggishly, then it's gummed up inside. It's fairly easy to remove the
  >> side plate & degrease and relube that as well.
  >>
   >> > I was just going to buy a recon motor
   >> > and window kit from partsforsaabs, but it'd be useful if I have a vague
 > idea
   >> > of what I'm taking on first. I'm not too bad with spanners, managed a
 > full
   >> > engine swap on the last T16 (and it still goes!!)
  >>
  >> If you've handled an engine swap, the window motors will be dead simple
 > for
  >> you. No worries.
 >
 > Thanks For your help Dave! Engine swap wasn't hard at all. I've done
 > pretty
 > much everything else on a car, but even non-electric windows scare me!! My
 > last 900 had a right side window that would stick if you wound it right
 > down. Solution was to remove the door card and thwack the motor with a
 > hammer while pressing the switch..
 >
 > MIke
 >
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 > Well, got myself yet another 900 T16 (SPG), this one's a 1990 UK model.
 > Only thing wrong is that neither window works

If you have Discovery Channel, try to catch a rerun of "Wheeler Dealers",
daily at 19:00 hrs, where they have a 900 with the same problem, was an easy
fix. Turned out to be the motors.

--
MH
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'87 900T8
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Mike P wrote:

 > Hi,
 >
 > Well, got myself yet another 900 T16 (SPG), this one's a 1990 UK model
 > .Only thing wrong is that neither window works. I'm hoping it's just the
 > switches or fuse, but going from past experience it's probably not. I've
 > always paid to have my other windows fixed, but this time I'm going to do it
 > myself.
 >
 > So, please can anyone give me a quick "idiots guide" to getting the window
 > and motors etc in and out of the door? I was just going to buy a recon motor
 > and window kit from partsforsaabs, but it'd be useful if I have a vague idea
 > of what I'm taking on first. I'm not too bad with spanners, managed a full
 > engine swap on the last T16 (and it still goes!!) but electric windows have
 > always frightened me off....
 >
 > Thanks in advance!!
 > mike
 >
 >
 >

You could find a slight older C900 with manual windows and grab the
doors You should have been the strange looks I got when I had to
show people how to use a manual window crank.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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for a visual guide to doing this, check out:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.twinsaabs.com/window/step1.html" target="_blank">http://www.twinsaabs.com/window/step1.html</a>

Jeremy

"Mike P" <privacy.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > Well, got myself yet another 900 T16 (SPG), this one's a 1990 UK model
 > .Only thing wrong is that neither window works. I'm hoping it's just the
 > switches or fuse, but going from past experience it's probably not. I've
 > always paid to have my other windows fixed, but this time I'm going to do
 > it
 > myself.
 >
 > So, please can anyone give me a quick "idiots guide" to getting the window
 > and motors etc in and out of the door? I was just going to buy a recon
 > motor
 > and window kit from partsforsaabs, but it'd be useful if I have a vague
 > idea
 > of what I'm taking on first. I'm not too bad with spanners, managed a full
 > engine swap on the last T16 (and it still goes!!) but electric windows
 > have
 > always frightened me off....
 >
 > Thanks in advance!!
 > mike
 >
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