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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:25 pm
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:19:11 -0500, Happy Trails <nomail DeleteThis @myplace.com>
wrote:

>
>If I were interested in the car I'd let the owner store it over the
>winter again, and offer him 3-4000 next spring. In the meanwhile, if
>he gets his price - goodie for him.

He won't go that low. They apparently have two others and that price
I'f bet he'd just keep it.
>
>Unless of course you are looking for a car for winter use. My brother
>always said the 1990 he gave me was the best winter car he ever drove
>(till the heaters quit, hahaha)!

I am in no rush.
>
>What engine does it have? I like the torque I get with the 4 liter
>six and wouldn't want anything smaller.

OK I stand to be corrected but I am pretty sure it is the fuel
injected 4235cc in line six. I know it is fuel injected.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:26 am
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:13:49 GMT, Calgary
<actual.ridernospam.RemoveThis@telus.net> wrote:

>OK I stand to be corrected but I am pretty sure it is the fuel
>injected 4235cc in line six. I know it is fuel injected.

I'd check before making an offer - this is from the Jag-Lover's site:

"The Series I thru Series III XJ's are what many consider to be the
definitive modern Jaguar sedans. The engine most commonly found in
these models was the twin overhead cam 4.2L inline 6 cylinder engine
derived from the classic Jaguar XK racing motor. Other engines which
were offered included the 2.8L and 3.4L inline 6 and the glorious 5.3L
V12."

This statement covers a history spanning 1968 through 1987 though.

The smaller engines will merely get better mileage but won't be near
as much fun, while from what I hear the V12's are even more of a
high-maintenance unit!

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:25 am
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:26:12 -0500, Happy Trails <nomail.RemoveThis@myplace.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:13:49 GMT, Calgary
><actual.ridernospam.RemoveThis@telus.net> wrote:
>
>>OK I stand to be corrected but I am pretty sure it is the fuel
>>injected 4235cc in line six. I know it is fuel injected.
>
>I'd check before making an offer - this is from the Jag-Lover's site:
>
>"The Series I thru Series III XJ's are what many consider to be the
>definitive modern Jaguar sedans. The engine most commonly found in
>these models was the twin overhead cam 4.2L inline 6 cylinder engine
>derived from the classic Jaguar XK racing motor. Other engines which
>were offered included the 2.8L and 3.4L inline 6 and the glorious 5.3L
>V12."
>
>This statement covers a history spanning 1968 through 1987 though.
>
>The smaller engines will merely get better mileage but won't be near
>as much fun, while from what I hear the V12's are even more of a
>high-maintenance unit!
>
I was told it is fuel injected and here is what I found from
Conceptcarz on the 85 XJ6:
******
Jaguar tasked the famous Italian stylist Pininfarina to revise the XJ6
and give it a modern appeal. The outcome was a design based on the
previous series but improving upon their elegance and visual appeal.
The Series III was born. Under the hood was the 3442 cc DOHC
inline-six cylinder engine capable of producing 160 horsepower. The
optional 4235 cc DOHC was now producing 205 horsepower. The increase
in power was the result of fuel-injection. A five-speed manual gearbox
was now standard with the Borg Warner 3-speed automatic offered as
optional equipment.
******

I am guessing about the engine size, but the 4235 is the only one
listed as being fuel injected.

You can read the full article here:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z10916/Jaguar-XJ6.aspx
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:34 pm
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On Nov 15, 5:58�am, Calgary <actual.ridernos... RemoveThis @telus.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:26:12 -0500, Happy Trails <nom... RemoveThis @myplace.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:13:49 GMT, Calgary
> ><actual.ridernos... RemoveThis @telus.net> wrote:
>
> >>OK I stand to be corrected but I am pretty sure it is the fuel
> >>injected 4235cc in line six. I know it is fuel injected.
>
> >I'd check before making an offer - this is from the Jag-Lover's site:
>
> >"The Series I thru Series III XJ's are what many consider to be the
> >definitive modern Jaguar sedans. The engine most commonly found in
> >these models was the twin overhead cam 4.2L inline 6 cylinder engine
> >derived from the classic Jaguar XK racing motor. Other engines which
> >were offered included the 2.8L and 3.4L inline 6 and the glorious 5.3L
> >V12."
>
> >This statement covers a history spanning 1968 through 1987 though.
>
> >The smaller engines will merely get better mileage but won't be near
> >as much fun, while from what I hear the V12's are even more of a
> >high-maintenance unit! �
>
> I was told it is fuel injected and here is what I found from
> Conceptcarz on the 85 XJ6:
> ******
> Jaguar tasked the famous Italian stylist Pininfarina to revise the XJ6
> and give it a modern appeal. The outcome was a design based on the
> previous series but improving upon their elegance and visual appeal.
> The Series III was born. Under the hood was the 3442 cc DOHC
> inline-six cylinder engine capable of producing 160 horsepower. The
> optional 4235 cc DOHC was now producing 205 horsepower. The increase
> in power was the result of fuel-injection. A five-speed manual gearbox
> was now standard with the Borg Warner 3-speed automatic offered as
> optional equipment.
> ******
>
> I am guessing about the engine size, but the 4235 is the only one
> listed as being fuel injected.
>
> You can read the full article here:http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z10916/Jaguar-XJ6.aspx- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So I'm not asking to much for my 85 xj6 with a new transmission, plus
things like new fuel pump that went along with full tune-up and hoses+
more at $1750

The body is in good shape the intrior is fair. But all the electrical
works...lol
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:25 pm
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:34:31 -0800 (PST), "Kafertoys@aol.com"
<Kafertoys RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:

>
>So I'm not asking to much for my 85 xj6 with a new transmission, plus
>things like new fuel pump that went along with full tune-up and hoses+
>more at $1750
>
>The body is in good shape the intrior is fair. But all the electrical
>works...lol

Once I got interested in a Classic Cat I looked at a lot of junk for
sale. One was advertised as the only rust free Jaguar (of the vintage)
in Calgary. I could see the rust fifty paces away.

I was looking for a Series III XJ6 or an XJS late 80's, early 90's.
Prices for the Series III or similar ranged from $1,200.00 to
$12,000.00. The low range represented parts cars and the high end
outrageously overpriced fixer uppers. I found a few XJS's in the $9K
to $15K range.

What I didn't find was the perfect unrestored Jaguar. No big surprise
there. I also didn't find a Series III in better condition than the
one I bought. Even the higher priced units were in what I would call
rough shape, with what appeared to be systemic rust.

Two things I didn't care to purchase was rust or a bunch of electrical
problems.

I ended up buying this one:
http://www.actualriders.ca/xj6.htm

I paid a little over $5K for it and had to drive over five hours to go
inspect it.

The car had a full mechanical inspection a little over 1000 kms ago,
with all of the faults repaired. I have the maintenance records that
go back to day one. It has been well maintained.

I could only find about 76mm of rust on one side of the front
windshield. Mechanically it looks very clean and rides like a dream,
smooth, tight and quiet. The interior is in very good condition. The
body is good and the paint fair. Tires are brand new.

Time will tell but I think I got a good deal, however even if I have
to throw more money at it I don't care. It is the year, model and
colour I was looking for. It is one hell of a good looking classic
car.

I am not sure if that helps you price your fairly.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:02 am
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On Dec 15, 7:52�pm, Calgary <actual.ridernos... DeleteThis @telus.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:34:31 -0800 (PST), "Kafert...@aol.com"
>
> <Kafert... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
> >So I'm not asking to much for my 85 xj6 with a new transmission, plus
> >things like new fuel pump that went along with full tune-up and hoses+
> >more at $1750
>
> >The body is in good shape the intrior is fair. �But all the electrical
> >works...lol

> Time will tell but I think I got a good deal, however even if I have
> to throw more money at it I don't care. It is the year, model and
> colour I was looking for. It is one hell of a good looking classic
> car.
>
> I am not sure if that helps you price your fairly.

don't get me wrong That is a very sweet car, the one I have looks
jest like it but has just alittle more rust and I also have a lot of
mantinace records including a new transmission. I was just looking for
a little feed back if I said I was asking $1750 for it.

I have a guy that made me an offer but now that I know alot of people
really like this model I think I'll sell to someone that wants it for
more then parts, It really is nice the interior is the only thing that
brings it down its got the splits in the leather seats I have a set
of gray seats for it. This guy just wants it for the transmission and
i'm sure the rest would be crushed.

Mario
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:17 pm
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BE WARNED. MARIO GAVAZZI, AKA "KAFERTOYS" OF "VINTAGE WERKS
RESTORATION" IN BURLINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA IS A SCAM ARTIST, LIAR AND
THIEF. PLEASE SEE THE FOLLOWING:
http://www.mariogavazzivintagewerks.com/
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96792
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ8UwWPP4Y

Thankyou.

Originally posted by "MEYER" on the Volvo newsgroup.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:25 pm
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:02:43 -0800 (PST), "Kafertoys@aol.com"
<Kafertoys.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:

>On Dec 15, 7:52?pm, Calgary <actual.ridernos....DeleteThis@telus.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:34:31 -0800 (PST), "Kafert...@aol.com"
>>
>> <Kafert....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >So I'm not asking to much for my 85 xj6 with a new transmission, plus
>> >things like new fuel pump that went along with full tune-up and hoses+
>> >more at $1750
>>
>> >The body is in good shape the intrior is fair. ?But all the electrical
>> >works...lol
>
>> Time will tell but I think I got a good deal, however even if I have
>> to throw more money at it I don't care. It is the year, model and
>> colour I was looking for. It is one hell of a good looking classic
>> car.
>>
>> I am not sure if that helps you price your fairly.
>
>don't get me wrong That is a very sweet car, the one I have looks
>jest like it but has just alittle more rust and I also have a lot of
>mantinace records including a new transmission. I was just looking for
>a little feed back if I said I was asking $1750 for it.
>
>I have a guy that made me an offer but now that I know alot of people
>really like this model I think I'll sell to someone that wants it for
>more then parts, It really is nice the interior is the only thing that
>brings it down its got the splits in the leather seats I have a set
>of gray seats for it. This guy just wants it for the transmission and
>i'm sure the rest would be crushed.
>
>Mario

I might add to my tale of jag shopping very few of the cars I looked
at have been sold. In fact only two of them were sold, mine and one
XJS that was listed at a ridiculously low price. It sold on the first
day, two days before I saw the ad.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:39 am
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On DeHey all I have a cyber stalker he goes by many names, it should
be Drama Queen , My business has no marks against it by the BBB or
anyone but a few people that screwed me and twisted it. And no I'm
not a used car salesman. And yes I have a clear title for this car
and it has a new transmission with papers and I'm selling it for
$1750 I'm sure the non paying PO will want to join my group of cyber
stalkers.c 16, 4:17�pm,
> Thankyou.
>
> Originally posted by "MEYER" on the Volvo newsgroup. �

His responce here was for a question I posted about my wife's volvo
that she was going to deliver meals on wheels with.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:45 pm
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On Dec 17, 5:39 am, "Kafert...@aol.com" <Kafert... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> On DeHey all I have a cyber stalker he goes by many names,  it should
> be Drama Queen , My business has no marks against it by the BBB or
> anyone but a few people that screwed me and twisted it.  And no I'm
> not a  used car salesman. And yes I have a clear title for this car
> and it has a new transmission with papers and I'm selling it for
> $1750  I'm sure the non paying PO will want to join my group of cyber
> stalkers.c 16, 4:17 pm,
>
> > Thankyou.
>
> > Originally posted by "MEYER" on the Volvo newsgroup.
>
> His responce here was for a question I posted about my wife's volvo
> that she was going to deliver meals on wheels with.

Mario Gavazzi, aka Kafertoys sure likes to distort things. Anytime ANY
aircooled VW enthusiast sees this thief post on Usenet, we try to flag
him. He's ripped off several people - fully documented. Banned on all
of the major Volkswagen sites because he's a known criminal. The
youtube link speaks for itself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ8UwWPP4Y

Multiple judgements against him that he's never paid. But the worst
crime is the way he ripped off poor Joan, a nice lady, to the tune of
$9,000.

Well, at least you've been warned about Mario now. Anything that would
happen from here is your own lookout. Thanks, and sorry for the
intrusion.
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