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Fuller Wrath

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: Broken Leaf Spring Archived from groups: alt>autos>toyota>trucks (more info?)

This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota stock and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main spring cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At first I thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR set only lasted a year. Why? And how do I stop it? >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:18:44 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" <boogerpicker RemoveThis @wazoo.net> wrote: >This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota stock >and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main spring >cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At first I >thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR set only >lasted a year. > >Why? And how do I stop it? > > Put some good shocks on it. Poor shocks WILL break springs!!! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

better than bilsteins??? <clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message news:e5n0v3942kqfra2u6vmd5s2njjri4147dg@4ax.com... > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:18:44 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" > <boogerpicker RemoveThis @wazoo.net> wrote: > >>This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota >>stock >>and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main spring >>cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At first >>I >>thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR set only >>lasted a year. >> >>Why? And how do I stop it? >> >> > Put some good shocks on it. Poor shocks WILL break springs!!! > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:15:16 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" <boogerpicker.RemoveThis@wazoo.net> wrote: >better than bilsteins??? > ><clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message >news:e5n0v3942kqfra2u6vmd5s2njjri4147dg@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:18:44 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" >> <boogerpicker.RemoveThis@wazoo.net> wrote: >> >>>This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota >>>stock >>>and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main spring >>>cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At first >>>I >>>thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR set only >>>lasted a year. >>> >>>Why? And how do I stop it? >>> >>> >> Put some good shocks on it. Poor shocks WILL break springs!!! >> >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> > Are the bilsteins the right ones for the truck and are they functioning? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

yes <clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message news:34q0v3hlffqfh6rs8grj3n440lqf31easu@4ax.com... > On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:15:16 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" > <boogerpicker.DeleteThis@wazoo.net> wrote: > >>better than bilsteins??? >> >><clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message >>news:e5n0v3942kqfra2u6vmd5s2njjri4147dg@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:18:44 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" >>> <boogerpicker.DeleteThis@wazoo.net> wrote: >>> >>>>This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota >>>>stock >>>>and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main spring >>>>cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At >>>>first >>>>I >>>>thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR set >>>>only >>>>lasted a year. >>>> >>>>Why? And how do I stop it? >>>> >>>> >>> Put some good shocks on it. Poor shocks WILL break springs!!! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>> >> > Are the bilsteins the right ones for the truck and are they > functioning? > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:39:26 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" <boogerpicker RemoveThis @wazoo.net> wrote: >yes Well, unless things have changed A LOT, the only thing other than abuse that will breal those springs is bad shocks. I was a Toyota service manager for 10 years and only saw one broken spring that did not have a bad shock - and that truck was ALWAYS run hard and heavy. ><clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message >news:34q0v3hlffqfh6rs8grj3n440lqf31easu@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:15:16 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" >> <boogerpicker RemoveThis @wazoo.net> wrote: >> >>>better than bilsteins??? >>> >>><clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message >>>news:e5n0v3942kqfra2u6vmd5s2njjri4147dg@4ax.com... >>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:18:44 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" >>>> <boogerpicker RemoveThis @wazoo.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota >>>>>stock >>>>>and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main spring >>>>>cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At >>>>>first >>>>>I >>>>>thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR set >>>>>only >>>>>lasted a year. >>>>> >>>>>Why? And how do I stop it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Put some good shocks on it. Poor shocks WILL break springs!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>>> >>> >> Are the bilsteins the right ones for the truck and are they >> functioning? >> >> -- >> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Are you giving your truck flying lessons? "Fuller Wrath" <boogerpicker.DeleteThis@wazoo.net> wrote in message news:VZWHj.28$x02.3@newsfe09.phx... > This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota > stock and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main > spring cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At > first I thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR > set only lasted a year. > > Why? And how do I stop it? > > > >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

You guys need to decide if you are going to top postj or bottom post, but not do both. I don't care which you choose, but settle on one or the other. >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

how about middle posting? "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message news:Mt9Ij.6419$bC6.5667@trnddc08... > You guys need to decide if you are going to top postj or bottom post, but > not do both. > > I don't care which you choose, but settle on one or the other. > > >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Fuller Wrath" <boogerpicker.DeleteThis@wazoo.net> wrote in message news:VZWHj.28$x02.3@newsfe09.phx... > This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota stock > and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main spring > cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At first I > thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR set only > lasted a year. > > Why? And how do I stop it? > Are you using new or used Toyta springs ? I can't imagine you going through that many new springs ! Toyota had a problem with the leaf springs from teh start of the Tacomas so I would stay away from Toyota springs. I have no experience with NWOR but from what I hear they sell alot of junk. I only see their name mentioned when someone has a complaint about their products, which seems to happen alot. If you haven't had the springs that long give them a call and see if they will warranty them, springs should last longer than a year or two. I used a set of springs fron Wheeler's Off Road. The springs are listed as" Wheeler's HD Tacoma replacement leaf springs". The set I purchased were made by Deaver Racing, which I have heard nothing but good about. I have had the springs on there for a little over a year and have had no problems with them. I also replaced my shocks at the same time with another set of bilsteins. The ride is better than factory and the handleing slightly improved. I would purchase them again if I needed another set but hope they will last the life of the truck. You acn check them out here. http://www.wheelersoffroad.com direct link to springs http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/tacoleafs.htm >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

All but the last set were stock Toyota springs, all of which lasted longer than the NWOR springs. I am taking it to a spring shop tomorrow to see what they can do for me. I looked around for springs like Old Man Emu and the like but they don't make them for a (non lifted) Toyota. The spring shop guy said there is something else going on. He said if I buy another set of springs most likely the same thing would happen again unless the problem is determined. Maybe I just go offroad too much? "Mike" <mik.RemoveThis@localnet.com> wrote in message news:KZaIj.934$Cn4.248@news02.roc.ny... > > "Fuller Wrath" <boogerpicker.RemoveThis@wazoo.net> wrote in message > news:VZWHj.28$x02.3@newsfe09.phx... >> This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota >> stock and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main >> spring cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. >> At first I thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the >> NWOR set only lasted a year. >> >> Why? And how do I stop it? >> > > > Are you using new or used Toyta springs ? I can't imagine you going > through that many new springs ! Toyota had a problem with the leaf springs > from teh start of the Tacomas so I would stay away from Toyota springs. > > I have no experience with NWOR but from what I hear they sell alot of > junk. I only see their name mentioned when someone has a complaint about > their products, which seems to happen alot. If you haven't had the springs > that long give them a call and see if they will warranty them, springs > should last longer than a year or two. > > I used a set of springs fron Wheeler's Off Road. The springs are listed > as" Wheeler's HD Tacoma replacement leaf springs". The set I purchased > were made by Deaver Racing, which I have heard nothing but good about. I > have had the springs on there for a little over a year and have had no > problems with them. I also replaced my shocks at the same time with > another set of bilsteins. The ride is better than factory and the > handleing slightly improved. I would purchase them again if I needed > another set but hope they will last the life of the truck. > > You acn check them out here. > > http://www.wheelersoffroad.com > > > direct link to springs > > http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/tacoleafs.htm > > > >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Leaf Spring [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

then they must have changed because the owner of Glendale Spring says Toyotas are known for cracked springs. <clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message news:im32v3p76ju8d1caqpauvfn0i3i7iua8oa@4ax.com... > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:39:26 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" > <boogerpicker RemoveThis @wazoo.net> wrote: > >>yes > > Well, unless things have changed A LOT, the only thing other than > abuse that will breal those springs is bad shocks. > I was a Toyota service manager for 10 years and only saw one broken > spring that did not have a bad shock - and that truck was ALWAYS run > hard and heavy. >><clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message >>news:34q0v3hlffqfh6rs8grj3n440lqf31easu@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:15:16 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" >>> <boogerpicker RemoveThis @wazoo.net> wrote: >>> >>>>better than bilsteins??? >>>> >>>><clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message >>>>news:e5n0v3942kqfra2u6vmd5s2njjri4147dg@4ax.com... >>>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:18:44 -0700, "Fuller Wrath" >>>>> <boogerpicker RemoveThis @wazoo.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>This is the fourth set on a 98 Tacoma 4x4. First three were all Toyota >>>>>>stock >>>>>>and this set is from NWOR. Stock set-up; no lift. Either the main >>>>>>spring >>>>>>cracks or this time the smaller helper spring has a crack in it. At >>>>>>first >>>>>>I >>>>>>thought the Toyota springs were just poorly designed but the NWOR set >>>>>>only >>>>>>lasted a year. >>>>>> >>>>>>Why? And how do I stop it? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Put some good shocks on it. Poor shocks WILL break springs!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>>>> >>>> >>> Are the bilsteins the right ones for the truck and are they >>> functioning? >>> >>> -- >>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>> >> > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > >> Stay informed about: Broken Leaf Spring

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